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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby Flabbergasted on Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:48 am

simonshack wrote:I can only hope the Nutwork's seemingly novel agenda won't leave us all without a job, here at Cluesforum!

Perhaps the Nutwork has decided to give you a well-earned vacation from ghastly terror events as a birthday gift :P

Tanti auguri from my better half and me.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby patrix on Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:44 am

Flabbergasted » February 5th, 2019, 4:48 am wrote:
simonshack wrote:I can only hope the Nutwork's seemingly novel agenda won't leave us all without a job, here at Cluesforum!

Perhaps the Nutwork has decided to give you a well-earned vacation from ghastly terror events as a birthday gift :P

Tanti auguri from my better half and me.


Or perhaps they've been busy producing this TV series that I stumbled upon yesterday flicking through the channels.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7OTiGsZcUo

Being a white middle aged man, I would say the Nutwork has gone to great lengths demonizing my kind. We are pedofilic meetooing serial killers that drive around in our SUVs not giving a shit about the environment. And if we do take the bus on occasion, we are manspreading up two seats...

But alas, Chris Hadfield is a white male I despise. Not for the made up reasons above however, but because he's a pitiful liar that lies to our children.

Edit:

Oh wow. Look at this. The nerve...

https://www.masterclass.com/classes/chr ... xploration

How about a consumer information site that explains that what this prick will "teach" you for a hefty sum are complete and utter lies?
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby simonshack on Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:42 am

Thanks, dearest Flabbergasted !

warm hugs to you and to your sweet better half. :)
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby simonshack on Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:17 am

I had a cosmic laugh as I bumped into this children's book on Amazon last night... :lol:

Simon and the Solar System

"In the end, Simon becomes an expert on all the planets and even the Sun, but his teacher has a surprise for him at the end!"


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https://www.amazon.com/Simon-Solar-Syst ... 0999555405
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby tomratliff on Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:09 am

simonshack » 2019 02 04, 22:23 GMT wrote:*
NO MORE GHASTLY TERROR EVENTS?... :huh:

What's going on lately? I was used to some hysterical psyop occuring at least twice weekly around the world - be it some lone gunman's shooting spree in a school or a rock concert, the regular "ISIS attack" by those horrid bearded men who hate our way of life - or assorted surreal & deadly disasters followed by fund raisers for the "victim's families".

What's the Nutwork up to of late? Are they just too busy planning the rogue Venezuela putsch / take over?


U.S. government shutdown ;)
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby Kham on Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:24 am

RASH OF MASS SHOOTING IN LAST FEW MONTHS

My high school students have been inundated with reports on their social media sites about a serious rash of mass shootings over the last few months. The big kick-off started with the Thousand Oakes shooting in California where 13 people died on November 7, 2018.

https://www.abc15.com/homepage-showcase ... california

Then the rest of the lesser shootings trickled in up through January of this year.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/repo ... s-shooting

My students were pretty scared and a few of them even stayed home for a few days feeling that all hell had broke loose in these here United States. It seemed pretty clear that teenagers were the target audience.

The Moral of the Story: Although you might not be the target audience and therefore are not aware of it there is always a psyop somewhere.
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COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

Unread postby pov603 on Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:18 am

Just saw this on the beeb.
Not sure if completely “innocent” or not but at least offers insight into the concept/thinking behind “CD”:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20190206-what-the-meat-paradox-reveals-about-moral-decision-making

When we say one thing but do another, or hold inconsistent beliefs, psychologists call it cognitive dissonance. The term was developed by Leon Festinger, who first used it in 1957. The classic experiment in this field was published by Festinger and James Carlsmith in 1959. In it, they asked: “What happens to a person’s private opinion if he is forced to do or say something contrary to that opinion?” In their experiment, they had 71 men complete two tasks. First, the men were asked to put 12 round wooden spools into a tray, empty the tray and put the spools back in the tray, repeatedly, for half an hour.
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Then the participants were given a board containing 48 square wooden pegs. They were asked to turn each peg by a quarter turn clockwise, then another quarter turn, repeatedly, again for half an hour. While they did this, a researcher watched and wrote things down. These were intentionally boring tasks. Really, really boring.
Although the participants thought it was their performance that was being measured, it was actually what came next that interested the researchers. After their two boring tasks, participants were taken back into the waiting room. They were told that the person sitting there was the next participant. For one-third of the participants, they simply sat down without anything else being mentioned. For the other two-thirds, however, the researcher asked whether they would lie to the next participant. They would even be paid for their lie. Half were told that they would be paid $1 for their lie, and the other half were told that they would be paid $20 for their lie (which in the 1950s was a lot). When they said yes, the researcher then handed them a piece of paper, and instructed them to make the points that were written on it: “It was very enjoyable”, “I had a lot of fun”, “I enjoyed myself”, “It was very interesting”, “It was intriguing”, “It was exciting”.
What the researchers really wanted to know was what impact this lie, and the compensation for it, would have on participants’ rating of the task. They wondered whether participants would actually come to think they enjoyed the boring task, just because they told someone else it was fun. And how would being paid influence this?
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Who do you think rated the experiment as the most enjoyable? The control group, who had not been asked to lie, rated the task as boring and said that they would not do it again. The participants paid $20 also rated the task negatively. However, the participants paid $1 rated the experiment as far more enjoyable than the other two groups, and were more likely to say they would sign up to participate in similar experiments in the future.
What happened? Being paid $1 was probably not seen by the participants as sufficient incentive to lie. Accordingly, they experienced cognitive dissonance. “Why did I say that it was enjoyable when it wasn’t? Surely not for a measly $1?” Since the participants could not go back and change their behaviour, or un-participate in the experiment, the option available to them was to change their belief – it must have actually been enjoyable.For the $20 condition this was not necessary, as they could explain their behaviour as the result of the hefty and easy financial incentive. This was the first of many experiments to show that we often bring our beliefs in line with our behaviour, and that money can change the way we do this.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby thisisunreal on Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:36 pm

Where does certainty come from and how do you generate it?

I would say that the simplest way to garner it is through repetition. Surely this is why the planet believes in democracy. It is the number one talking point on Western media political shows.

Similarly, the BBC feature holocaust related items at least twice weekly, often more (either directly or indirectly). This highly repetitive pattern forming content helps to solidify certain notions in the minds.

The BBC certainly didn't disappoint this morning (article linked below).

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47071241

Pilots landing after dark at Budapest international airport will soon have a new star to navigate by - a giant Star of David.

It will be lit up from the side of a tower resembling stacked cattle trucks. The illumination will be so bright that permission was sought from Hungarian airport authorities.



A reminder of the holocaust and the dangers of flying rolled into one, but with the bonus of tying in one of the seminal fiascos of our time with a somewhat vainglorious picture that is supposed to resemble...…. "cattle trucks"?


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<a href='https://postimages.org/' target='_blank'><img src='https://i.postimg.cc/wBj4bNtn/STAR.png' border='0' alt='STAR'/></a>
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Re: COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

Unread postby tomratliff on Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:19 pm

pov603 » 2019 02 07, 08:18 GMT wrote:Just saw this on the beeb.
Not sure if completely “innocent” or not but at least offers insight into the concept/thinking behind “CD”:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20190206-what-the-meat-paradox-reveals-about-moral-decision-making


Hey pov603. This is indeed relevant. And footage from this same study can be found in "The 9/11 Show" beginning at around the 9:40 mark:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGsWhFKlXHA

All the best,
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Re: COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

Unread postby SacredCowSlayer on Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:30 pm

tomratliff » February 11th, 2019, 12:19 pm wrote:
pov603 » 2019 02 07, 08:18 GMT wrote:Just saw this on the beeb.
Not sure if completely “innocent” or not but at least offers insight into the concept/thinking behind “CD”:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20190206-what-the-meat-paradox-reveals-about-moral-decision-making


Hey pov603. This is indeed relevant. And footage from this same study can be found in "The 9/11 Show" beginning at around the 9:40 mark:

All the best,
TomR


Thank you TomR. It has been a long time since I watched that. I recommend (to our readers) checking out that portion of the video, since the concept is somewhat difficult to reduce to writing.

To me, they key is understanding the lengths to which people will go (subconsciously) to resolve (or mitigate) the incongruity between the competing beliefs and/or behaviors.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby Mansur on Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:40 am

thisisunreal » February 11th, 2019, 6:36 pm wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47071241

Pilots landing after dark at Budapest international airport will soon have a new star to navigate by - a giant Star of David.

It will be lit up from the side of a tower resembling stacked cattle trucks. The illumination will be so bright that permission was sought from Hungarian airport authorities.

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The site has been ready for more than three years but is still empty because of a certain ongoing political affair (between the government allegedly saving face of the policy of the wartime regime, and the Jewish organizations --- or the only organization here, a united one; „the holocaust was a worldly affair and not a religious one” says the government).

And, moreover, it is situated kilometers away from the airport, something 8-10 kilometers or more, almost in the downtown.

Some photo of the empty facility:
https://24.hu/belfold/2018/07/12/negy-e ... gnyitasat/

„Sorsok háza” -- (that is „the house of fates”) may be an allusion to the book „Fatelessness” for which its (Hungarian) now late writer received Nobel Prize in Literary in 2002.

Maybe I'll take the trouble one day and visit the site at evening to find out what strange lights are used there...
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby pov603 on Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:51 pm

I like the way the “SoD” (pun intended) comes out of the “left” but firmly plants itself prominently in front of the “right”...

Edit: typo
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby pov603 on Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:54 pm

@tomratliff
Many thanks for the link to the video, another interesting slant on things (will get round to watching completely in next few days).
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby ICfreely on Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:05 am

I’m posting the following here because I don’t know where else to post it.

On February 8th Niahm Harris of NewsPunch reposted a “miracle cure” Gregg Prescott article on “Holistic” Cancer Research.

(https://newspunch.com/the-suppressed-medical-technology-of-royal-raymond-rife/)


The Suppressed Medical Technology Of Royal Raymond Rife
by Gregg Prescott, M.S.

Cancer cure genius Royal Rife silenced by medical mafia

Dr. Royal Raymond Rife, known as the father of holistic cancer research, was silenced by medical mafia.

Born in 1888, Royal Raymond Rife was an American inventor known for his belief that he could observe and render inert a number of viruses which he thought were causal factors in several diseases, most notably cancer.

His Rife machine can destroy infectious organisms, viruses, bacteria and fungus and has been used to eliminate more than 50 different microorganisms including cancer, tuberculosis, strep and leprosy.

Holistic Cancer Research reports: Rife began research cancer in 1922, but it took ten years before he was able to isolate the VX Virus, which was a cancer microorganism. A year later, Rife invented the Universal Microscope, which a light source technology that could magnify an object 60,000x its size. Because of his invention, Rife was the first person to see a live virus.



Question: In an age where technology can be used to improve the quality of life for everyone, why has the Rife machine been ridiculed by the medical industry and suppressed for so long?

Answer: The last thing Big Pharma cured was polio. <_< There is no money in repeat business when finding a cure to anything.

http://www.holisticcancerresearch.com/holistic-cancer-research-rife-machine.html



I sincerely hope CF’s readership is, at this point, immune to this sort of $chitt.
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