Engineering disease

Historical insights & thoughts about the world we live in - and the social conditioning exerted upon us by past and current propaganda.
sharpstuff
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Seneca wrote:
If someone can find the original text of the verdict that would be helpful.
I am not sure if you translated the whole article, Seneca. It does state that the written verdict is not yet available.

Here is a link to a Google translated page. Quaint, but you can get the gist!

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... t=&act=url

Any victory over these so-called researchers is very welcome. If only people would understand that viruses don't exist. Nothing removed from a living body can be the same as it was before it was removed (it must start to disintegrate in some way); certainly not when it is cut up, squashed between glass plates, stained and so forth. Worse under a so-called electron microscope.
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Indeed, I haven't read the full article. I can understand German, but it is with much difficulty, and I don't want to waste my time reading an article that I know will contain much bullshit. Thanks for clearing that up.

I would like to share an anecdote, a conversation about viruses with a relative that I will never forget. I am not comfortable with giving her name to prove her existence, if that bothers anybody please ignore what I write.

She is not much older than me but her CV on linkedin is more impressive:

Katholieke Universiteit Leuven
Phd in Medical Sciences, Virology, Vectorology, Biotechnology
1998 – 2004

University of Surrey, Nescot College
MSc Virology, Virology
1996 – 1997

Katholieke Universiteit Leuven
MSc Biochemistry, Biochemistry
1994 – 1996
BSc Medicine, Medicine
1990 – 1993

I shared her the link about Stefan Lanka: http://neue-medizin.com/lanka2.htm (of this part I am not 100% sure)
Dr. Stefan Lanka, virologist and molecular biologist, is internationally mostly known as an "AIDS dissident" (and maybe "gentechnology dissident") who has been questioning the very existence of "HIV" since 1994. In the past years, however, he stumbled over a breathtaking fact: Not even ONE of the (medically relevant) viruses has ever been isolated; there is no proof of their existence.

This part I remember well:
I asked her if she, being a virologist and all, had ever seen a virus under a microscope.
She said no.
Something about the microscopes being too expensive.

When I asked if she did not find it strange to study something she never actually saw she declined. I think she was a bit insulted by this question.

Interestingly, since her studies she is working as an artist and a science communicator. In her art projects she shows that the boundaries between art and science are very thin.
(I am not saying she is a fraud, I think she really believes all this and is trying to help other people while trying to make a living.)
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kickstones wrote:
CluedIn wrote:Another groundbreaking cure coming along for cancer: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology ... il-7377474 The microscopic pictures they provide of cancer cells et al are NASA-ish as far as the ridiculousness. This one appears to show 2 people up in a tree and another guy falling out on his head ?
On another issue regarding the story, who is actually Professor Chiara Bonini?

In the Mirror (website of the year) story they post a picture below:

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Which is taken from this bio on Suicide gene therapy in stem cell transplantation: (it doesn't allow me to get image link)

https://ec.europa.eu/research/quality-o ... cts_en.pdf

Project co-ordinator:
Dr Maria Chiara Bonini
Fondazione Centro San Raffaele del
Monte Tabor, Milano, Italy
Bone Marrow Transplantation Unit and
Gene Therapy Programme
Phone: +39 02 26 43 47 90
Fax: +39 02 26 43 47 86
E-mail: [email protected]

The picture is the same as this image below taken from Experimental hematology

Chiara Bonini, Head of Unit
[email protected]
Gene Therapy and Immunotherapy of Hematologic Malignancies.

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http://www.hsr.it/research/organization ... ra-bonini/

The first article is dated 2001, whilst the second picture is dated as being uploaded (FotoForensics Digest) on 2013-12-11 14:05:52 GMT.

A year later it appears she is pictured below in Vanity Fair stories.

http://www.vanityfair.it/mybusiness/don ... ara-bonini

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Heres another picture from
L'INTERVISTA
“San Raffaele”, Chiara Bonini: «Supercellule contro la leucemia, ecco come le abbiamo scoperte»

http://salute.ilmessaggero.it/ricerca/s ... 55567.html

The upload time is 2016-02-16 20:49:48 GMT

however the EXIF (FotoForensics) date time stamp on metadata (not 100% sure this can be altered or even relevant) states the picture was taken ...Date/Time Original 2008:06:29 03:49:21

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Here she is on youtube....

2014. nov. 17.

*Educational Day* at ESGCT Conference in Madrid.
Chiara Bonini, dept. of Experimental Hematology at Fondazione San Raffaele del Monte Tabor - Milano, talks about "Bases of Gene Therapy in leukemias".


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIPPEYOq3Dk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIPPEYOq3Dk




Maybe my imagination or plastic surgery at play, but to me she looks a little different in these pictures.

Here are a couple more shots from the Vanity Fair article, notice how she has acquired a gap between front teeth.



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This from http://www.sanraffaele.org/41.html?page=3

Chiara Bonini

Lab Members

Name Title Position
Chiara Bonini M.D. Hematologist, Principal Investigator

uploaded 2005

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http://www.meeting.cimt.eu/speakers
uploaded 2016
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Here is a picture of the staff at The Haematology and Bone Marrow Transplantation (BMT) Unit at San Raffaele Hospital in Milan where Prof. Maria Chiara Bonini 'works'.

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(Maybe me, but some of those heads don't look proportional, 5th guy on right from bottom second row for example.)
http://international.hsr.it/areas-of-ex ... n/?lang=en


Staff

Dr. Fabio Ciceri is Head Haematology and BMT Unit. Dr. Massimo Bernardi, consultant Haematology Inpatient Unit; Dr. Consuelo Corti, consultant Haematology Outpatient Department; Dr. Jacopo Peccatori, consultant BMT Unit.

Staff haematologist: Dr. Andrea Assanelli, Dr. Matteo Carrabba, Dr. Fabio Giglio, Dr. Elena Guggiari, Dr. Francesca Lunghi, Dr. Maria Teresa Lupo-Stanghellini, Dr. Magda Marcatti and Dr. Sarah Marktel.


Fabio Ciceri

Institute:
San Raffaele Hospital
Department of Oncology
Country:
Italy

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Filetime: 2013-01-11 02:27:21 GMT (fotoforensics)

Fabio Ciceri’s group is working on a gene therapy program in haploidentical transplantion.

http://www.optistem.org/about-us/princi ... bio-ciceri



Hematology and hematopoietic stem cell transplantation

Fabio Ciceri, Head of Unit

[email protected]

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Fotoforensics Analysis:
Date/Time Original 2008:06:29 03:49:21
Create Date 2008:06:29 03:49:21
Software Adobe Photoshop CS4 Macintosh
Modify Date 2013:06:28 16:11:56

Filename: Ciceri.jpg
Filetime: 2013-07-11 12:21:25 GMT





http://www.hsr.it/research/organization ... io-ciceri/

EBMT Elections 2010

Acute Leukaemia WP:

Fabio Ciceri,
Milan, Italy

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http://newsletter.ebmt.org/march2010/elections2.htm

Merate: a 66 anni Mario Mandelli dona il midollo osseo al fratello Stefano. La sua testimonianza in un convegno al San Raffaele

E a farne oggetto di un convegno è stato il San Raffaele di Milano che con l'ADMO (associazione donatori midollo osseo) nel pomeriggio di mercoledì 21 gennaio ha organizzato "Donor pride", una carrellata di testimonianze e di approfondimenti sul tema.

Ad aprire il convegno è stato il dottor Fabio Ciceri, primario del San Raffaele, che ha introdotto il trapianto dal punto di vista medico, snocciolando anche una serie di numeri.

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From PhamaStarTV

youtube
Published on 12 Apr 2014

Intervista al Prof. Fabio Ciceri, Direttore unità di ematologia e trapianto midollo osseo, Ospedale San Raffaele, Milano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akoUCtjqtnU


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akoUCtjqtnU



Nanomedicina nella lotta contro il cancro, cos'è e come funziona
PharmaStarTV

Published on 4 Feb 2014

Intervista al Dott. Fabio Ciceri, Direttore Unità di Ematologia e Trapianto di Midollo Osseo dell' IRCCS Ospedale San Raffaele


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH4wdSXlaRE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH4wdSXlaRE

Same guy?
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kickstones wrote: Same guy?
Well, yeah - looks like the same guy to me. I'm afraid I fail to see your point here, dear kickstones (whereas your point about Chiara Bonini and her oddly inconsistent looks - and apparent age - had some merit...)
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simonshack wrote:
kickstones wrote: Same guy?
Well, yeah - looks like the same guy to me. I'm afraid I fail to see your point here, dear kickstones (whereas your point about Chiara Bonini and her oddly inconsistent looks - and apparent age - had some merit...)


Dear Simon, if I remember rightly, you once questioned, along the lines, if US soldiers really existed to the numbers they are made out be oversees.

I'm just questioning the existence of the members of the team at the Hematology Unit, San Raffaele Scientific Institute.

Chiara Bonini looks, to my eyes, are clearly different.

I agree, Dr. Fabio Ciceri's latter profiles are similar, however, the initial two i'm not so sure about. And the second one, according to fotoforensics data,
had a Modify Date in 2013.

Obviously they got to have someone appear on PharmaStar TV you tube programmes etc..its not beyond the realms of the imagination that these could be hired help playing to a script. This could be there 'Paris' moment.

Only this a different agenda, continued and justified funding on the basis they put out news annoucement of 'new ground breaking cure / therapy', how often we heard that statement. However, it's not certain it works so they got to keep on researching for a few more heavily funded years.


This is what now appears, only came across it today on, Chiara Bonini Curriculum Vitae.....

http://www.unisr.it/view.asp?id=3534

Chiara Bonini

Education
• 1994: MD, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy, Summa cum laude.
• 1998: National Board in Hematology, University of Pavia, Summa cum laude.

Professional Activity
• 2008 – present: Head of the Experimental Hematology Unit, San Raffaele Scientific Institute, MI
• 2004- present: Assistant Professor in the “Speciality School of Hematology” and in the “School of Biotechnology “Università Vita-Salute San Raffaele”, Milano
• 2000-present: Assistant Professor in Hematology in the School of Medicine,“ Università Vita-Salute San Raffaele”, Milano. Assistant, Supervisor and examiner of PhD students enrolled in the Open University Program, Program in Molecular Medicine, HSR, PhD Open University Program, Hammersmith Hospital, London, UK.
• 1998-present: Attending Physician, Bone Marrow Transplant Unit, H.S. Raffaele, Milano, Italy (in leave of absence 1998-2000).
• 2000-2008: Group Leader, of the Experimental Hematology Unit, Cancer Immunotherapy and Gene Therapy Program, San Raffaele Scientific Institute, Milano, Italy
• 2001-2007: Principal Investigator of the multicentric clinical trial TK007" A phase I-II study: Infusion of donor lymphocytes that have been engineered with the suicide gene HSV-tk after transplantation of allogeneic T-depleted stem cells from a haploidentical donor in patients with hematological malignancies” sponsored by Molmed s.p.a. Centers involved: H.S.Raffaele, Milan; Hadassah University Hospital, Jerusalem; Hammersmith Hospital, London, Humanitas, Milano.
• 1998-2000: Post-doctoral fellow, Program in Immunology, Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, Seattle. Cancer Research Institute Fellowship
• 1996-1998: Post-doctoral fellow, TIGET (Telethon Istitute for Gene Therapy), DIBIT, H.S. Raffaele, Milano, Italy
• 1995-1997: Medical fellow, Bone Marrow Transplant Unit, H.S. Raffaele, Milano, Italy.
• 1994-1998: Principal Investigator of the clinical trial " Transfer of the HSV-tk gene into donor peripheral blood lymphocytes for in vivo modulation of donor anti-tumor immunity after allogeneic bone marrow transplantation.” San Raffaele Scientific Institute, Milano,
• 1993: Undergraduate summer student, Bone Marrow Transplantation Unit, Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, New York, USA.
• 1991-1994: Undergraduate student, Laboratory of Experimental Hematology, H San Raffaele, Milano, Italy.

Activity as national or international expert/reviewer
• 2009-present: Associate Editor Journal of Gene Medicine.
• 2009-Present: Member of the Cancer Gene Therapy Committee, American Society of Gene Therapy
• 2005-present: Member of the Board of the European Society of Gene Therapy
• 2005-present:Grant reviewer for INSERM, The Netherland organization for Health Research and Development (ZonMw), Cancer Research UK, Leukemia Research
• 2000-present: Member of the American Society of Cell and Gene Therapy, European Society of Gene Therapy, American Society of Hematology, Immunobiology WP of the European Society of BMT.
• 1995-Present: Reviewer for Blood, Human Gene Therapy, The Journal of Gene Medicine, Bone Marrow Transplantation, Human Immunology, Mol Ther, Cytotherapy, Exp Hematol, Mol Ther., Hematologica.,
• 2006: Young Investigator Award. Fondazione Berlucchi
• 2005: Young Investigator Award. American Society of Gene Therapy

Current Grants
• 2009-2013-MIUR-FIRB Ideas (ERC-starting grant) (PI: Chiara Bonini): T cell receptor gene editing by designed zinc finger nucleases and lentiviral vectors for adoptive immune therapy of leukemia. Funding available: 1.230.120,00. Euro
• 2008-2010 Progetto Strategico Oncologia (PI: C. Bordignon): Adoptive immune-gene therapy for tumors. Funding available: 230.000 Euro.
• 2009-2011 Giovani Ricercatori Ministero Salute (PI: Chiara Bonini): T lymphocyte gene editing to cure leukemias Funding available: 600,00. Euro
• 2009-2010 Fondazione Telethon (PI Giulio Cossu): Cell therapy of Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy by intra-arterial delivery of donor, HLA-matched mesoangioblasts. Funding available: 135.000.
• 2009-2012 EU (PI Luigi Naldini): PERSIST Funding available: 200.000.


Is this the joke?

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http://www.hsr.it/research/organization ... -bonini/3/

I don't know Simon, maybe everything is above board, I'm just not excepting everything at face value, just putting this out there so folk can verify the situation. Because for me the below picture doesn't sit right, especially when magnified. ( I'd put a few example on the post, but I'm not that skilled)


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I suppose, at the end of the day all someone has to do is wait outside San Raffaele Scientific Institute and photograph these people.
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What isn't copied and pasted amounts to shocking spelling and grammar kickstones. And I agree with Simon's observations, and I don't see the correlation between Simon's speculations about the number of US Terrorists overSEAS and your post.
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I agree Brian, my grammar and spelling is shocking, apologies to all, I'll try and post in less haste and use a spell checker in the future.

In my reference to Simon and his proposal regarding lack of US army unit personnel, it was meant to question if there is also a lack of medical personnel at these heavily funded medical research units.

Do they make the numbers up and to add realism to the operation hire a group of people for medical group shots, then alter their facial images via photoshop to avoid recognition?

I ask this because folk are questioning the legitimacy of scientific research.


Rappoport...

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016 ... the-point/

February 18, 2016
'The global hysteria about Zika is engineered. I’ve explained how and why in previous articles. And now, again, I’ve shown why it is hysteria, not science.'

Researchers want you to believe their work is so technical and advanced that only their colleagues can understand it.

Were this scandal understood and broadly known, the whole house of cards would collapse.

The medical-drug industry would go down. The vaccine industry would go down. Medical schools would be exposed for their outrageous omissions of fact. Doctors in their offices and in hospitals would find their reputations destroyed. Research labs would fold up. Public faith in the institution of medicine would crumble.'


If our knowledge of disease is engineered, then would not it make sense for those controlling the engineering (medical-drug industry) to have the least amount of people party to this knowledge of false science.

Hence create a pseudo-medical research unit, complete with faux Bio's / Curriculum Vitae's, similar to American terrorists getting fake passports.



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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-1 ... ch-sources
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I refuse to reply to ‘kickstoned’.

Apologies but I would like to get this thread on track.

Please do not think I denigrate other person’s interests but all this mention of ‘personalities’ I have no knowledge (or interest in). Why should I care?

I am trying to get people interested in doing real things, what the ‘f’ do I care what cretins think?

Give a lucid person credit!



THE ANTI-BIOTIC MYTH
_____________________

Please take a look at this short video I made a couple of years ago. It is only 8 minutes of your time.

I do not apologise for my passionate responses to allopathic genocide (real or imagined).

I have, I think, updated this in the present work.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoI0oi0Apyg

This missive, as of today, for personal reasons relating to a purported ‘infection’ which my lady’s doctor refused to prescribe anti-biotics (for which I am grateful!).

So-called ‘modern’ medicine relies upon the age-old (and incorrect) ‘germ’ theory.

The ‘germ’ theory relies upon the notion that ‘germs’ (whatever they are or might be) cause what they also call ‘diseases’.

Each ‘disease’ has a specific ‘germ’ that ‘causes’ that particular ‘disease’.

No ‘germ’ has ever been found to exist outside the body (or in it).

Prove me (and a lot of others) incorrect with replicable results.

Then appeared the invention of that unseen and unproven/undemonstrated entity, now called a ‘virus’ (meaning toxin or poison) that is responsible for those ‘diseases’ that could (or would not) be attributable to the unknown ‘bacteria’ which apparently cause a lot of other ‘symptoms’.

This ‘invisible’ enemy (or even ‘friend’) is the fortunate choice for those who would deem to lie to everybody (without a shred of verifiable evidence) for their financial, or other ‘ends’.

One may have shied away from the political/financial but that is obviously the case, or prove me incorrect.

Thus I/we have been led into virtually all the facets of fake presentations (in my lifetime) of moon landings, nuclear bombs, fake explanations of controlled demolitions, and all the other paraphernalia that leads to false data (a.k.a. ‘News’). It is all about ‘Might is Right’, as long as they are the ‘might’ and are in control with their heavy weapons.

That aside, a bacteria (if it exists as an entity at all and I doubt that) is apparently a unicellular product from which we are all apparently derived however that came to be during what appears to be an adaptation to a particular environment of which we can have no possible data (including time-frame) at all!

In other words, some sort of ‘single-celled’ amoeba/bacteria; a structure which has the apparent ability to reproduce (become more than one).

In fact this single-celled phenomena may split into two (by some mechanism about which we can have no verifiable data nor means of conducting any so-called ‘experiment’) it would be impossible to replicate from an original single micro-organism) into four then eight etc.

However, we call this alleged process, mitosis.

This is the structure (mitosis) from which we are apparently derived to become what we are (at least in embryological terms).

A ‘virus’, (if one could demonstrate its existence and much as one could a so-called ‘atomic’ particle’) is supposedly something else.

A virus is supposed to be an entity which has certain requirements relating to the notion of ‘genes’.

‘Genes’ are supposedly the matter from which we derive our apparent likeness to our parental ovum + sperm incarnations, thus an embryo and foetus and then a born individual.

‘We are our genes!’ they scream. ‘I’m a poofter because my Mammoth said so!’

This notion one may contest if one researches the subject of ‘epi-genetics’.

Please spare me the links. I am a teacher to commit you to learning and doing your homework; the rest is up to you for comments.

In the Main Sewer Media (‘scientific’ or otherwise), a virus is either a string of DNA ‘molecules’ which are either ‘dead’ or ‘alive’, from which you might derive that they do no have a clue either way. Please provide proof if you disagree. The notion of ‘attenuated’ is laughable).

To argue that a bit of something can supposedly ‘mutate’ into something else is like saying that a bit of sawdust can mutate into a piece of useable wood for building a shelter.

If DNA exists, it exists within a complex organism (for example) in vivo (in the body), if such exists, in vitro (out of the body) it can not be the same structure since it is outside the in vivo.

The fact that it may be removed counteracts its ‘effect’ within a ‘live’ situation. (As an aside, it has not been proven to work in proper forensic studies.)

Enough for now.

Be well.

Reference to my question:

Why Don’t Antibiotics Kill Viruses?

http://www.drugs.com/article/antibiotic ... ruses.html

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sharpstuff wrote:This missive, as of today, for personal reasons relating to a purported ‘infection’ which my lady’s doctor refused to prescribe anti-biotics (for which I am grateful!).
I agree that anti-biotics aren't effective. They are treated like magic pills and I do wonder about the placebo effect.

I came down with a cold in the New Year which progressed to pleurisy in my left lung. I avoid the medical profession as much as I can, but I admit to forcing myself to go visit one due to being doubled over in pain and unable to sleep lying down. I was given a five day course of anti-biotics which did nothing at all. I was told to take the five day course and if my pleurisy didn't improve, to go back and get some more (probably a different brand). I decided not to bother and allow my own immune system to deal with it. Why should I short-circuit that process with some unknown toxic medication? If the first anti-biotic didn't work, why should the second?
sharpstuff wrote:No ‘germ’ has ever been found to exist outside the body (or in it).
If a person is unhygienic in the kitchen, cuts their finger and then gets blood poisoning what was the cause if not 'germs'? I am not disagreeing with you that we are being lied to by the medical profession, but what do you see as being the proximate cause of human disease? I am also wondering if Mycoplasma is yet another label for a process that is clearly not understood.
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For those that are in doubt about concerns regarding fraudulent behaviour in the scientific research community, below are a few published articles demonstrating the extent.

PLoS Med. 2005 Aug; 2(8): e124.
Published online 2005 Aug 30. doi:  10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124
PMCID: PMC1182327
Why Most Published Research Findings Are False
John P. A. Ioannidis

Summary...

'There is increasing concern that most current published research findings are false. The probability that a research claim is true may depend on study power and bias.'

'Moreover, for many current scientific fields, claimed research findings may often be simply accurate measures of the prevailing bias.'


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182327/


Offline: What is medicine’s 5 sigma?


Richard Horton
richard.h [email protected]

http://www.thelancet.com
Vol 385 April 11, 2015

“The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness.”

http://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/ ... 0696-1.pdf


Reproducibility: Six red flags for suspect work
C. Glenn Begley
Nature 497, 433–434 doi:10.1038/497433a Published online

Subject terms:
Medical research
Publishing
''A few months ago, I received a desperate e-mail from a postdoctoral scientist. Researchers — including me and my colleagues — had just reported that the majority of preclinical cancer papers in top-tier journals could not be reproduced, even by the investigators themselves1, 2. The postdoc pleaded with me to identify those papers, saying: “I could be wasting my time working on that project.” This was true, but we had signed confidentiality agreements that prevented us from revealing the specific papers. Furthermore, identifying them would not address the broader, systemic issues in research and publishing that create a plethora of papers that don't stand up to scrutiny.''

How to Guard Against Image Fraud
By Mike Rossner | March 1, 2006

Several recent, very public cases of scientific fraud have led the public to question the efficacy of manuscript review by biomedical journals.

''As a result of the revolution in electronic communication, many journals now have completely electronic workflows, whereby authors submit all text and figures as electronic files.

The ease of image manipulation in powerful applications such as Photoshop makes it tempting for authors to adjust or modify digital image files. Authors have been using these applications for more than 10 years;''


http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles. ... age-Fraud/

The pressure to fudge medical research findings
Analysis
By Sophie Scott
Posted 24 Oct 2013, 11:11pm

Three major Australian universities are currently investigating serious allegations of alleged research misconduct. 

The claims range from possibly manipulated images, falsified data to - unbelievably - allegations that a study with published results never actually took place.

''At the University of Queensland, senior management was forced to return a grant of $20,000 from Parkinsons Australia and retract a scientific paper co-written by former staffer Professor Bruce Murdoch, from the Centre for Neurogenic Communication Disorders Research.
The university discovered that a study into trans cranial magnetic stimulation for Parkinson's disease may not have actually been carried out.
"No primary data can be located and no evidence has been found that the study described in the article was conducted," according to the University of Queensland.
A paper on the study was published online in 2012 in the European Journal of Neurology which was subsequently retracted. '
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-25/s ... ce/5043620

These are reasons why I question the validity of the San Raffaele Scientific Institute research team and its published articles, coupled with the analysis of its funding sources.

''The competitiveness of the San Raffaele Scientific Institute is also demonstrated by its ability to attract funding not only from public (Ministry of Health, Superior Institute of Health, Ministry of University and Research), but also from private Italian sources (mainly Telethon, the Italian Association for Cancer Research and Bank Foundations) and from international sources (European Community, European Research Council, American National Institute of Health, World Health Organization, Association for International Cancer Research, Gates Foundation, Wellcome Trust, Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation, among others).”

http://www.medicine.unisr.it/view.asp?id=25

Time restraints do not permit me to give a detailed analysis of all the sources, however, I'll quickly focus on one, The Gates Foundation. The report below gives an indication of their scruples and morals.

'The Gates foundation or Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (BMGF) has funded two organizations that over the past five years have played a significant role in the country's immunization programme and are both under fire for conflict of interest. The organizations are GAVI (earlier known as Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization), a global aid organization that specializes in vaccination, and Public Health Foundation of India (PHFI), a public-private partnership society that BMGF co-founded with the UPA government in 2006.'

Narayana Kumar of The Economic Times of India has written a scathing report of fraud and scandals surrounding this Gates vaccine empire:

Kumar starts out his 4 page article by focusing on the current case before the India Supreme Court regarding deaths and injuries occurring during drug trials carried out over Merck’s HPV vaccine Gardasil. Vaccine trials were conducted on thousands of girls between the ages of 9 and 15. Many of the girls fell ill, and at least 7 died, and the lawsuit is alleging that in most of these cases, the girls and their parents did not even know what kind of vaccine trial they were participating in.

Controversial vaccine studies: Why is Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation under fire from critics in India?

KP Narayana Kumar, ET Bureau Aug 31, 2014, 07.10AM IST

Most of the girls were students, and an investigation showed that as many as 120 girls who participated in the HPV vaccine trials “experienced adverse reactions such as epileptic seizures, severe stomach ache, headaches and mood swings. The Sama report also said there had been cases of early onset of menstruation following the vaccination, heavy bleeding and severe menstrual cramps among many students.”

Kumar points out that after these adverse reactions, a report was conducted to explain them all away as not related to the vaccines, so that the approval process could move forward to market the HPV vaccine in India. That report, according to Kumar, was funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (BMGF). Authorities in India have looked into BMGF, and see a huge conflict of interest:


Conflict of Interest

Similar controversies on proximity with pharma companies and conflict of interest have been raised about PHFI. While PHFI is engaged in public health and is also partnering the government in UIP, it has accepted grants from a number of pharma companies, including vaccine manufacturers. In all, PHFI has accepted grants worth around `57.65 crore from pharma companies, including Merck Sharp and Dohme, Pfizer and Sanofi, which manufacture vaccines. Sanofi is one of the many manufacturers of the controversial Pentavalent vaccine around the world.

"PHFI is a private society cleverly disguised as a public-private partnership since some of the people in the governing body are or have been senior civil servants or public servants," adds Supreme Court lawyer and activist Prashant Bhushan. Bhushan points out that PHFI appears to have several connections with the big pharma companies and their consultants. "The PHFI appears to have a conflict of interest in advising the government of India and directing the immunization programme."


The report also features a scenario as per which the optimistic case would be that the market would have hit a value of around $3.2 billion in 2020, growing at 30-35% year-on-year from 2012 onwards.

http://articles.economictimes.indiatime ... loma-virus

The upshot being that if fraud and malpractice is widely prevalent in the medical research community as the above demonstrates, then it its not beyond the capabilities of these money facilitators (i.e BMGF) to front a fake research group (s) adding their names to fake research papers to further their agenda.
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A little more time today, which allows me to briefly look at the credentials of another funding source of the San Raffaele Scientific Institute. The source in question is the World Health Organization (WHO).

Recently, on January 14, 2016, its Director-General, Dr Margaret Chan, received an open letter of complaint from Sin Hang Lee, MD.

According to Dr. Lee’s letter, a series of emails recently uncovered via a Freedom of Information request submitted in New Zealand revealed evidence that Dr. Robert Pless, chairperson of the Global Advisory Committee on Vaccine Safety (GACVS), Dr. Nabae Koji of the Ministry of Health of Japan, Dr. Melinda Wharton of the CDC, Dr. Helen Petousis-Harris of Auckland University, New Zealand, and others (including WHO officials) may have been actively involved in a scheme to deliberately mislead the Japanese Expert Inquiry on human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine safety before, during and after the February 26, 2014 public hearing in Tokyo.

A few points from the letter:

When the facts don’t fit simply change them?

The purpose of Dr. Pless intentionally combining two unrelated studies and two unrelated chemicals shows up in the following sentence:

“the finding of DNA fragments in the HPV vaccine and their postulated relationship to clinical symptoms, have been reviewed by panels of experts”.

Who were these panels of experts? Dr. Pless presented none of their names.”

Lack of Peer - Review Credibility

According to: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuri ... tions.html

''this is the ONLY Technical Report issued in the last 12 years of records that has never been published in peer-reviewed journals. The Disclaimer at the end of this report states:

“The information and conclusions in this report are those of the work group participants addressing this issue and do not necessarily represent the official position of CDC.”

In other words, the CDC’s “Technical Report” (Ref #16 of the GACVS Statement) was written by unnamed ghost writer (s) based on phone conversations.


GACVS Suppresses Vital Information and Manipulates Data to Support Claim of Vaccine Safety in the Face of Valid Contradictory Evidence

Dr. Pless and the WHO officials seemed to have simply written a script for Dr. Helen Petousis - Harris to regurgitate at the public hearing and then proceeded to put forth the same presentation as an independent research reference to support their pre-determined GACVS statement.


Link to full letter:
http://sanevax.org/wp-content/uploads/2 ... -GACVS.pdf

*I realise the letter is published via sanevax org who may well have ulterior motives for its publication, much in the same way Andrew Wakfield and his apparently fraudulent 1998 research paper was said to have.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield )

But still, it does give an insight into the methodology of todays junk science players and their efforts to justify their so called remedies to 'disease'.
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Talcum/cancer connection? Really? If you have a baby, or skin, read this please.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... e28865632/
Still processing... Toxic baby powder...would they? Wow.
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It just reinforces to the Sheeple that 'nothing is safe', not everyday goods, not cuddly TV stars of old.
It keeps people 'off balance'.
It runs nicely in tandem with stories like 'Apple Standing up against FBI [with support from Facebook]' yada, yada, yada, giving everyone the 'feel-good-factor' that some of the Big Boys are actually on our side... :puke: (Apologies this is going off topic somewhat!)
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35656553
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Apache wrote:
If a person is unhygienic in the kitchen, cuts their finger and then gets blood poisoning what was the cause if not 'germs'?
I am wondering what do you mean by unhygienic?

Please be aware that I have spent a considerable time contemplating your question upon this, hence the later reply.

Being hygienic obviously supports the notion of ‘cleanliness’.

Cleanliness is, as far as I perceive it, a natural and spontaneous occurrence in all fauna, at least. That is, (for example) we immediately stick a finger into our mouths when burned (or cut).

This allows a possible ‘acidic’ (detrimental to a pH sensitive creature) to be ‘neutralised’ by the ‘alkalinity’ of the mouth (in its natural state).

The human body should maintain a slightly alkaline equality (whatever that might be) to be able to survive.

It must be pretty obvious that what one calls ‘cleanliness’ is of vital importance because we do not want to ingest something that is not continuous with our existence (a substance foreign to our terrain).

Sanitation (cleanliness) was essential in preventing a populace from ingesting proteins (or whatever) not conducive to their survival.

The apparent ‘diseases’ (plagues and so forth) were patently due to lack of nutrition, close proximity to a multitude of others in a same or similar circumstances and devoid (I may add) of lack of sunlight.

Without the ‘energy’ of the sun (whatever that is). we would not be here at all!

To decry/deny the sun’s influence in any sense at all is to deprive all fauna and flora of their existence.!

I defy negation of this.

Nature must maintain that from which is came about. How can there be an argument against that?

The terms ‘acidic’ and ‘alkalinity’ are convenient terms for which there can be no definition. There are no ‘nut-shell’ answers to any questions (or answers) in this forum (upon whatever subject) or any others.

In simple, some things are ‘good’ for us and some things are ‘not good’ for us.


Adaptation has taught us (if you like) to refrain from those things that have a negative effect upon us and those that do not. Thus some of us are alive and some not quite so.

In the UK (at least) it was well known that if you got stung by a nettle there was always a dock-leaf in the vicinity which immediately reduced the symptoms of an awful itching!

Sometimes, however, we are confronted by ‘things’ (toxic to our personal terrain and of which we have no knowledge.

Thus, ingesting in some way (or compromised by outside influences such as a snake bite or other surgical incisions (for example an injection of any kind) that conflicts with our personal terrain, we manage to ‘poison’.

This personal terrain will suffer the consequences (of bodily rejection producing obvious ‘symptoms such as sneezing, coughing, pustules and so forth).

The immune system notion relies upon the concept of ‘germs’ and the ‘creation’ of ‘anti-bodies’ and by extension, an ‘immune’ system.

The so-called ‘immune system’ is therefore as false at the ‘germ’ theory from which it derives.

This (unacceptable and faux) ‘immune’ system is the basis for vaccination/inoculation (the creation of the ruse that injecting a supposed (unidentified, unseen and unprovable) germ/virus into a body directly thus producing ‘anti-bodies’ which counteract the effect of the germ/virus and thus preventing it from recurring is effective. The results of this travesty would require several pages on this most excellent forum into a disarray of bandwidth.

If ‘germs’ exist, they must first bypass the largest organ of the body (the protective skin) and its ancillaries, the eyes, nose mouth and any other orifices of the body and therefore the first ‘defences’ against Nature’s own ‘invasion’.

Why would Nature (the SUN) and from which we derive our existence want to bypass this/these (skin/organs) to produce a self-destructive ‘disease’?

Nature (without human created so-called ‘morals’) could not produce something counter-productive to the fact of its continuance.

If that were so, we would not be here at all!

Nature did not invent the ‘germ’ theory. Nor would it invent ‘germs’.

Aside: Even the notion of ‘anti-bodies’ was thrust aside when they invented A.I.D.S. since the ‘fact’ that one had anti-bodies, was the pre-requisite/pretext for acquiring the ‘disease’! Oh! How topsey-turvey the World has become!

If there are no germs, there are no anti-bodies and thus no ‘immune’ system.

We are thus left with the notion of our personal terrain.

If our terrain is maintained as best possible, we do not get ill-health.

Nothing being perfect, we may all ‘suffer’ the body’s responses at some time or another; that is, ‘symptoms’ (runny nose, sneezing and so forth). These are common symptoms for common afflictions, they are merely mis-diagnosed for other conditions which have been invented to account for all sorts of tripe they call ‘disease/s’.

Importantly, your question (Apache) also relates to many other aspects of ill-health that appear to be inexplicable without the notion of ‘germs’ and it does require a deal of thought, since we have been so entrenched in this nonsense, which is why other notions of disease need to be researched. The answers are not though, probably, lucrative enough.

Having said all that, I might ask some other questions in response to your original question:

How many times have you cut yourself and got blood-poisoning?

How would you define blood-poisoning?

What are you cutting that might result in blood-poisoning?

Under what circumstances might you be cutting the object?

What are the precise circumstances of this ‘cutting’?

What?….the variables are amazing…

I understand that I appear long-winded here but these issues are very important to try to understand (for everybody).

A couple of years ago, I tried an experiment upon myself. I was unscrewing a particularly difficult Philips screw and dug the tip of the screwdriver into my hand. I completely left it alone. It did not bleed very much and I just left it alone. Within a week or so it was healing itself. A few weeks later it had healed itself without intervention. Lastly, I do not even have a scar.

Why might this be possible?

Ask a person not why they are of ill-health but why are are not so….Peter K. Sharpen
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