Donald Rumsfeld simulated in an interview?

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Donald Rumsfeld simulated in an interview?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eootfzAhAoU

Rumsfeld helped the hugest simulation ever get pulled off on 9/11 ... and we are to now believe he is getting "grilled" by an official Freedom Fighter? Does Rumsfeld's nose look a little flat or is it compression?

Is McKinney trying to argue that we are spending too much money and wasting too much time in getting all "our computers" talking to one another?

Is she pushing for the Matrix instead of fighting against it? Why did she leave politics?

I would like to speculate that there is good reason for the propaganda arm of the globalists to simulate events that never happened, drama that never took place and to begin practicing doing so now, as they implement the technology in so many digital ways that the Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association (AFCEA, see: http://www.septemberclues.org/historical.htm)) is pushing for.
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Here's a basic face-scanning technology that may be used to put current and past politicians in simulated environs.

http://video.tiscali.it/canali/truveo/652017721.html

Donald Rumsfeld is and has been a real person, even if a deceptive one. I have been assured by those I trust that Cynthia McKinney is a real person. So in the interest of these questions, what could be the political/logical motivation for simulating one's presence where one is not?

And have they been?
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They've been using the low-tech approach to sims for years, which is to simply have understudies and background vocalists doing the actual singing and dancing up on the stage.

They need pretty faces up on the TV screen, but it's a different group of people who actually write the speeches and songs and organize the various events.

Every now and then there's a "Milli Vanilli" hangout scandal, but for the most part live performances are anything but.

Why deal with a real person who can say the wrong thing or mess up his lines or get too drunk to appear in public when you can have a charismatic canned leader available with the click of a button? You never have to worry that your sim is going to go and write a tell-all memoir or whisper all your secrets in his mistress's ear or pocket bribe money that should have ended up in your own pocket.

There are many advantages to having everything ready to go before it officially happens. And in the worst case scenario, you just tell people it's an outtake from the pilot episode of "The Lone Gunmen" or some B-Movie called "Air Rage" or "The Siege" or one of Gary Welz's unsold scripts.

Besides, you can always have your sim choke on a pretzel or get smacked by a flying shoe when it's no longer useful to you.

Why take chances?
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I have always wondered if Bush was really reading a story to those kids on 9/11 or if that was an event long filmed in advance and their timing with the Andrew Card fellow was off because they just hadn't directed it well.

Apparently, Bush was taken to U.S. StratCom "after" this event, but is it concievable that he was always there?

We should contact that school and figure out what was going on.

Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida:

http://maps.google.com/maps?client=oper ... 02&t=h&z=6

We know U.S.SouthCom is on the other side of Florida, could Bush have actually been there - or involved with it and/or his brother Jeb - and he was flown to U.S.StratCom as an "initiation" of the traitorous new base in Omaha?



I personally have never seen Obama in person, and in this age of fakery it should be a REQUISITE that we all get to meet the person supposedly leading us.

If that turns out to be physically impossible due to their inability to meet 300,000,000 people, I think we have to ask: why exactly do we have such a "leader" who cannot possibly represent us in any way, shape or form?

Democracy is becoming Holocracy!
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hoi.polloi 4 Oct 23 2009, 12:09 AM wrote: . So in the interest of these questions, what could be the political/logical motivation for simulating one's presence where one is not?

Could it be used to discredit any of us if connecting the dots by creating a alternate fake conspiracy paralel to a real one ?

maybe it would make sense for them to create a backup contingency where anything going wrong as it did on 911 would be on the grip of the controlled opposition from the start.
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911truth.ch 4 Oct 26 2009, 11:31 PM wrote:
hoi.polloi 4 Oct 23 2009, 12:09 AM wrote: . So in the interest of these questions, what could be the political/logical motivation for simulating one's presence where one is not?

Could it be used to discredit any of us if connecting the dots by creating a alternate fake conspiracy paralel to a real one ?

maybe it would make sense for them to create a backup contingency where anything going wrong as it did on 911 would be on the grip of the controlled opposition from the start.
This is interesting.

Are you talking about "Minority Report"-like personal advertising and virtuality? It is, of course, a horrendous future to imagine: where cooperation is rendered impossible by the simulated existence of those around you.

If I understood correctly, it sounds like you are suggesting that the criminal cartels calling themselves our "leaders" might simulate themselves in a number of virtual environs in order for the average person to find it impossible to discover which monitor our cowardly "leaders" are really hiding behind.

People getting caught up in the "Bush choking on a pretzel" story will not be aware of the "Bush is shipping Israel some new Raytheon missiles from U.S. StratCom in Omaha, Nebraska" happening at the same time. Enough diverse channels with equally convincing images/recordings of those crazy "powers-that-be" and nobody will be able to sort out what they are doing.

Wait, it sounds like how the Mafia has worked for ages ... the endless alaby.

Can you imagine how many alibies they can now literally try to "prove" with fake virtual evidence?
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hoi.polloi @ Oct 29 2009, 03:44 PM wrote: People getting caught up in the "Bush choking on a pretzel" story will not be aware of the "Bush is shipping Israel some new Raytheon missiles from U.S. StratCom in Omaha, Nebraska" happening at the same time. Enough diverse channels with equally convincing images/recordings of those crazy "powers-that-be" and nobody will be able to sort out what they are doing.
I imagine it's quite likely these sim scenarios are already being done and presented to us. I wonder how the digitalization of television might help with that?

Another thing that comes to mind is using sim scenes for blackmail.
"It's not a matter of what is true that counts but a matter of what is perceived to be true." - Henry Kissinger
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I imagine it's quite likely these sim scenarios are already being done and presented to us. I wonder how the digitalization of television might help with that?

Another thing that comes to mind is using sim scenes for blackmail.

Yes, I suppose since all video and photographic evidence is now so suspect, it is going to become some sort of horrible battle of wits between people with a sense of the fakery and the perps both trying to convince the people who cannot tell the difference between reality or fakeness what the heck is going on.

The banker hoaxter types will try to undo the truth and we - unfortunately - have the sysiphus-ian task of trying to teach people about fakery faster than the perps can photoshop us delivering bags of money that say "For Osama Bin Laden" written on them. :huh:

This kind of thing used to only matter to people who have credibility to lose like politicians and such. But I guess now the technology is so good they will fake phone calls, photos, plant false testimony, fake witnesses, etc. etc. for average people just trying to ask questions.

Oh wait! That's what 9/11 is!
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hoi.polloi @ Oct 24 2009, 08:48 PM wrote: I have always wondered if Bush was really reading a story to those kids on 9/11 or if that was an event long filmed in advance and their timing with the Andrew Card fellow was off because they just hadn't directed it well.
I would think that if a Bush photo op or video was produced in advance, they would smart enough to make something in a bit more of the "mission accomplished" style, even if the silly pose backfired in the end.

Then there is the problem of witnesses. Why plan something that has too many innocent witnesses like at that school? Too stupid even for those handling Bush at the time I think. Maybe this time truth is stranger than fiction?
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Thrifty - should we dig into the "witnesses" as we've been forced to with 9/11?

We've learned that controlling the perceptions of thousands of people at once is not really apparently much of an "issue" for them, given the absolute confusion coming from people who live in New York and are still sorting stuff out.

The concept of a fake news item witnessed by "dozens of innocent school-children who would never be able to sustain a lie!" may have actually been a sort of twisted experiment in and of itself.

What stories - if any - came out of that event? Shall we look into it?
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"All told, there are 49 addresses and 16 different Social Security numbers listed for a person whose name is spelled 'Barack Obama.' In some cases, the middle initial 'H' is listed. If you were to expand the search to include closely related names such as: 'Barac,' 'Barak,' and 'Barrack' Obama, you would find more than a dozen additional addresses and Social Security numbers."

"Finally, the one Social Security number Obama most frequently used, the one beginning with 042, is a number issued in Connecticut sometime during 1976-1977, yet there is no record of Obama ever living or working in Connecticut. Indeed, during this time period Obama would have been 15-16 years old and living in Hawaii at the time."

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"Nevertheless, all this mystery surrounding Obama appears to be a generational thing. Researchers have discovered nearly a dozen aliases, at least two different Social Security numbers, and upwards of over 99 separate addresses for Ann Dunham, his mother. We do know she worked for the [edit: CIA FRONT] Ford Foundation but we also know she may have earned some income from pornographic poses, as evidenced by photos recently discovered by some researchers--how embarrassing. The only thing researchers are able to find out about Obama’s mother is the fact she made porn. I’m sure that’s a first for presidential mothers."

You can read the whole mysterious article at:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=3255

My own suspicions are that this substantial piece of on-line Obama-ID research was posted (by Barky's spy-shop controller-creators) at a notorious right-wing/populist website, and then thoroughly ignored by the mainstream media, just to get it "on the record"... thereby making it clear to those in the outermost layers of the intel cognoscenti that Barry Boy is terminally compromised, harmless to the warmongers, and easily disposible without resorting to a risky re-running the shopworn old "lone nut" scenario.

Repentent Andy <_<
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If the current Oval Office resident is actually a simulated identity fashioned decades ago by the Covert Operations branch of the Central Intelligence Agency (as the circumstantial evidence cited above strongly suggests) then this fact substantially helps to explain why the "Astroturfed" Tea-Party shills and other Republican operatives have been so determined to AVOID the "Birther Issue".

The agency's Mockingbird Media, month after month since Barky's "flubbed" presidential oath of office (supposedly re-taken privately but without being sound-recorded) has provided extensive coverage of anti-Obama accusations that he's a socialist, a communist, a dangerous liar and/or a fool, but the provable-citizenship issue (after Big Media DID allow it to be raised briefly) has long since been kept off the mainstream agenda, except for an occasional, ridiculilng reference, smugly equating "birthers" with "911 truthers" or "UFO contactees". :P

Perhaps the missing Hawaiian long-form birth certificate is the not-so-secret "weapon" that will only be used if and when Barky's controllers determine that he is no longer useful -- in facilitating their ongoing schemes to foment endless wars for drugs-and-oil, concentrate ever more wealth among the ultra-elite, and lockdown all opposition via a cyber-web of 24/7 surveillance and control.

Since Reality Shack boasts some of today's most skilled and daring web researchers, particularly when it comes to fake images and bogus identities, I challenge them to check out the assertions cited in my previous posting regarding those scads of spare SSN's and residential addresses for BHO, coupled with the equally suspicious "sealing" of nearly all of his school, work, and travel documentation.

Yes indeed, the most audacious SIM of all may well be our favorite TelePrompTer reader! :ph43r:
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I want to thank all the people who worked so diligently on analyzing the 911 TV broadcasts. I watched your videos last night. For the first time, realized that I'd been focusing on little parts that didn't make sense - like no plane wreckage at the Pent. and Shanksville. Thereby I was missing the big picture.Last night I realized, the whole thing - is a hoax.
Now, on to topic. last week I noticed something about Pres O. that made me feel that I was 'seeing' a body double. Something about him looked 'wrong'. He's got to have doubles - at the least. Now I wonder if it's more advanced than that. No body double. Just sims.
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Thanks for catching on so quick. Welcome to the very lonely journey. You will quickly find we are each of us alone in our struggle to regain our perceptions in modern society.

I can offer this in the way of the topic you just mentioned: there is a technique called 'Augmented Reality' which is capable of instantly rendering computer animated objects over video like a live blue screen.

If you consider how easy it could be for someone with a small head to have a digital mask of a large head inserted over their slightest expression, then you have an argument for Obama's face implanted on top of an actor.

Consider also when a sim is being constructed, the source can be a combination of anything: live actors, pre-recorded actors, computer animation or augmented reality.
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