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Mansur
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

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simonshack wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:49 pm I'm now curious to read up about that "Jew Clause" - and to find out why my Norwegian great-great-great grandfather was such an 'intolerant antisemite' ! ^_^

Just to wet your appetite, here's a short extract from Wikipedia's "Jew Clause" entry:

"In the difficult years after 1814, (Norway's) Finance Minister Herman Wedel Jarlsberg had tried to borrow money from banks in London. Because of the Jewish clause in the Constitution, he could not get a loan from Rothschild, and Rothschild had convinced the other banks in London to boycott the Norwegian state."
For me, it seems more worthwhile to find out why this Jarlsberg, minister of finance, wanted to borrow money and why from Jews, just when the Jew clause was enacted, and how he managed to do so in the end - because it seems certain that he succeeded in doing so.

...People suffered all over Europe -- until the salutary constitutions and independent nationhood came along and created the conditions for states to prosper. And now they no longer need to fear the machinations of the evil Rotschilds...
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The Supreme Galactic Watchmaker has seen fit to allow the Sun to complete another orbit around Simon´s corporeal being :)

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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

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Flabbergasted wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:47 pm The Supreme Galactic Watchmaker has seen fit to allow the Sun to complete another orbit around Simon´s corporeal being :)
:lol: :lol: :lol: So sweet of you, dear Flabbergasted. :wub:

I can only hope the SGW will allow the Sun to swirl a few more times around my corporeal flesh, so as to let me complete my terrestrial investigations - before heading to Andromeda to continue my cosmo-logical diggings... :P

As I woke up this morning, I also enjoyed this other (serendipitous) "birthday gift": https://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?p ... 7#p2416747

Hopefully, 2023 will be the year that we'll turn this world upside down! :) "ONE DAY": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF2i77aCBw8
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Call me paranoid, but the Turkey-Syria Feb 6 earthquake and it’s aftermath looks a bit fake to me:

There’s a photo set here
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/11/midd ... index.html
- Many of the rescued survivors looked too clean and healthy to me
- the buildings destroyed looks almost indistinguishable from the so-called Syria war destruction years ago
- the fire/smoke in some of the photos look painted in

Then there are stories of survivors rescued after 90 or 100+ hours
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/midd ... -out-alive
And this one of a child born under the rubble
https://www.npr.org/2023/02/07/11551160 ... alive-baby
which seem incredulous to me

Now of course, even if the photos or stories are faked does not mean there was no earthquake or casualties;
I’m simply trying to ascertain how much of it is real…
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Chatroom

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I dont think there is an existing chat room for members here correct? If not, would Simon consider doing it via Discord or Telegram? If not, is there any other members here who would do it? I can do set it up if Simon doesnt want to, and other members dont know how to but would like it.
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You can hear Simon chat here. Chat rooms are popular on Discord, I don't think most people on here would be interested.

https://fakeotube.com/video/5660/fak671 ... akeologist
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This was quite a laugh for me (ie. East Palestine Ohio gas explosion)
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/11/heal ... index.html

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Per my previous post on the Turkey-Syria earthquake, some more oddities I found:
- collapse ‘accidentally’ caught live during broadcast
https://youtu.be/6qkNwj5-uzg
- in both the one above and the one below, people are running for their lives while with their phones to their head
https://youtu.be/2qjnUEAi-Zw
- as the building collapse, the people right next to it does not seem to give much of a reaction (the portion of the video starts as the collapse starts, which is quite suspicious if you ask me)
https://youtu.be/buLMbZhp5rI
- “pancake collapse”
https://youtu.be/TnlCRoBAcuw
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There's been such a litany of psy op events of late, it's been difficult to keep up with all of them.

I'm going to start with a continuation of the Syria-Turkey earthquake event,
in the town of Jindires which is said to be destroyed by the earthquake.

Is it not curious that 'Syrian Forum USA' is operating (a Protection Center) in that same town?
and does the logo of 'Syrian Forum USA' not look oddly similar to the UN SDG logo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrRF08njL20

Here we have an interview of the victims:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zS4nEgmzXw
the guy interviewed at 0:36 looks really happy while taking about his dead relatives and his mother who is still trapped under the rubble

another one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-ALt3jfzf0
at 0:43, it is shown the photos of the 2 girls who allegedly died:
for the girl on the left, there is a line/cut to the right of the girl's chin;
for the girl on the right, there's an odd coloring on the girl's face as well as a line/shadow under her lower lip
- suggesting a paste job.
Both girls are holding some kind of inexplicable object in their hands as well, which makes me wonder if it is partially AI generated, as those are common artifacts of AI images

the children who supposedly lost their siblings, especially the boy, looks completely unaffected by the event;
The 'father' when talking about his girls who died also do not seem particularly sad about it.
At one point (3:38), he even made a joke "You should not love anyone more than God. God gets jealous (infer: and takes away your love ones)"

at 6:22 of the video, the rubble removal scene looks like CGI to my eyes - the definition of the video suddenly dropped, and the motion looks rather unnatural

I hope I have shown in the extended discussion of the Syrian earthquake (in this post, and the ones before it), that something fishy is going on, if not the whole thing being a hoax

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Now, talking about natural disasters, there was a fire that allegedly broke out in Bangladesh's Rohingya refugee camp (camp 11).
Curiously, there was a similar fire that happened two years ago, on Mar 22, 2021 (3/22 - bonesman day)
So I figure I will start with that

I've been able to find two photos of the fire back in 2011 from:
https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/03/25/ban ... ives-blaze
https://web.archive.org/web/20210324061 ... ingya-camp

Putting the photos through forensic analysis, the photos of the fire are clearly manipulated as revealed by the forensic analysis, the graininess is also different between the background and the foreground;
showing the imagery is fake.

Now if they can fake a fire in 2021, then surely they could fake one again in 2023.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-64858932
for the latest fire, "No casualties have been reported"
this must be a miracle, considering the fire in 2021 allegedly claimed at least 15 people

It is also stated: "Between January 2021 and December 2022, there were 222 fire incidents in the Rohingya camps including 60 cases of arson, according to a Bangladesh defence ministry report released last month."
Now, 222 is a rather peculiar number, a number that makes one wonder if it's made up

It must be quite a coincidence then that NPR published an article on an interview carried out at the Rohingya refugee camps just days before the 2023 fire
https://www.ypradio.org/2023-02-28/rohi ... -forgotten

Turning to the footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qok2spNX0E
At 1:51-2:28: the footage of the people putting out the fire looks off, the sky is covered by smoke and soot, yet the people are all well lit, nor do they seem to mind the smoke blowing into their faces
At 8:20-8:43: in the footage of the people walking in the smoke, almost no one feel the need to cover their noses, in fact some of the children who walked passed are smiling and joking about - as if the smoke is not there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnKmjq63UN0
At 0:07-0:12: in the distance, one can see people standing around
At 0:13-0:15: in the zoomed in shot, it's even clearer that the people standing around next to where the fire is supposedly burning beside them

It seems to me, the 2023 fire is just as fake as the 2021 one.

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While I'm on the topic of Bangladesh, Bangladesh is quite the place for psy ops:
- the Rana plaza collapse in 2013
- the cafe attack back in 2016
- the cargo fire in 2022
and now an explosion just a few days ago!

I will just touch briefly on the cargo fire, since it seems no one has talked about it before
in the following footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLiyBU7RKIc
At 0:25: the supposed burn victim has no visible injury
At 0:55: the police with glasses seems to be showing duping delight
And finally at 1:05, the water jets are pointed at where there is no fire, while there is no attempt to put out the fire where it is still burning

the same odd phenomenon is seen in the photo set https://apnews.com/article/bangladesh-d ... 454af2b1b8

Back to the Dhaka explosion on Mar 7 2023
I think the following is the most damning :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7xOA-GRvf8
At 0:20, a man wearing a helmet bearing the words rescue - which I assume to be a fireman helmet - turns around with a camera to photo the other firemen! And at least 11 'fireman' carried what I assumed to be one injured victim to a makeshift ambulance. 11? isn't that a bit much?

if that's not enough, another video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTlkayrmG4Q
At 0:10: why is the bandaged bloodied man sitting around for a photo shoot instead of being carried to the hospital
At 0:13, another man who has no visible injuries gets paraded in front of cameras (and is the guy talking on the phone beside the man his handler?)

according to the official story,
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-new ... s-29396813
the explosion is said to be so powerful that it "damaged a bus standing on the opposite side of the road"
But in the first photo of the article (https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/a ... LOSION.jpg) it is quite obvious that the storefronts and the electric poles next to the 'blast site' are undamaged

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Going a few days back, to Mar 5, it is said that a train crash in Greece killed 36 (in early reports)

the following is claimed to be footage of the crash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eltz076Jns
and I say: it is an absolute f*ckup

at 0:11, the train's headlight comes into view and slowly moves to the right along the track; after the collision, one can see the headlight appearing out of the flash at 0:27 and continue rightward as it nothing happened
(It's clearer here where I point out the headlight: https://twitter.com/doubt_everythng/sta ... 7itaQtAAAA)

There's also the usual crisis actors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iijyi2Ufk2c
At 1:13, the voiceover: "this man, his head still bleeding..."
So why is the man is not being attended to, but is instead freely giving interviews to the media;
also, standing next to him, is the other interviewee that is seen in the other videos

another video of the same guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLJEirNb6GM
At 0:46, one sees the 'bleeding man' is holding a water bottle in his right hand;
which is a common thing for the actors to have while waiting for their scene

The numerology is also quite wild on this one:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... eople-dead
"36" dead and "66" injured (three-six) and (-6, 66 combined)
"Out of 66 hospitalized people, six are in intensive care units."
Three 666s out of the same article

Now, not only is the crash fake, but the protests that are said to be a result of the crash is also fake

See
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi8lRQF6DO0
At 0:00-0:08, neither the police or the protestors are responding to the fire bombs as they went off
At 0:32, the protestors are supposedly running away from the tear gas as most of them are wearing gas masks, however the man holding the banner on the right is completely fine without a mask

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DKsYUiLlcg
once again we see the people are completely fine without masks despite of the 'tear gas'

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Speaking of fake protests, there's also one happening in Georgia, protesting the so-called foreign-agent bill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZ7ztLS3fE
At 2:43-2:48: how are the protesters able to withstand the water cannon blasting directly at them; one guy even intentional walks in front of the cannon (like he wants to be be blasted) and indeed he falls - but was it just acting?
At 3:22-3:30: another water cannon blast, where a man intentionally jumps upwards while the blast is shooting into his direction and so he falls
At 5:31: one supposes the gas is tear gas, but then why are the people running TOWARDS the gas instead of flinching in pain

All this reminds me of the Hong Kong fake protests back in 2019, but I'm not going to cover them now
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sekito wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:08 pm There's been such a litany of psy op events of late, it's been difficult to keep up with all of them.
Sekito, you have been busy!

Apart from the earthquake, I hadn't even heard about these events.

Yes, that Syrian Forum symbol is very similar to the SDG logo which I see all over the place here Japan. It is all over TV. There is an SDG show hosted by a personification of SDG #5 (gender equality) - a "transgendered" person. Some bookstores have an SDG themed section. There is a catchy SDG song with cute theme characters played amongst children's programming to ... program the children. BTW, people without children may be unaware, but the SDG business has been / is being deeply embedded into school curricula from junior school through to university. This is certainly the case in Australia and I gather most of the world more or less.

And isn't that Syrian Forum video a very slick production? Well directed, emotive music, professionally narrated and with nice drone footage. They have some video production expertise over there for sure.

And your second linked video. That one has at least one 'white helmet'. White helmet = red flag.
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sekito wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:08 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zS4nEgmzXw
the guy interviewed at 0:36 looks really happy while taking about his dead relatives and his mother who is still trapped under the rubble
While I wouldn't say that he looks happy, the guy displays no emotion. With that tone and composure, he could talking about what he had for breakfast.
A person who has lost family would not talk about it like that.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

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Following my last post, I have looked more into fake/staged riots. I have come to the conclusion that most (modern) riots - if not all - are staged, such as the ongoing ‘riots’ in France.

The method to stage riots is largely the same regardless of location:
- inert ‘tear gas’(where people are fine even after their face being doused in it, a small number of people wearing gas masks for show) and smoke bombs/hand flares for show
- low power ‘water cannons’(which gives such a small force the actors need to jump in front of it in order to be ‘knocked down’)
- Sirens blasted in the city to create a tense environment
- toy-rubber police batons (which are noticeable by their curvature)
- fake fights(where the people get back up unscathed)
- bombs thrown or fire set off in empty spaces, or in staged environments (where the ‘police’ are in fire-resistant gear); videos often depict ‘police’ running across burning streets for extra effect
- and countless cameraman getting ready to film the dollar shots; their videos are often chaotic, where the scene of action is concealed either by the vast number of people or objects such as umbrellas and shields

As for the reason of faking/staging riots, I have come around to agree with Mansur’s opinion (who I believe is no longer with us) - that is, instead of inciting the public to participate, the goal is the exact opposite: the riots are faked to reduce the possibility of true uprisings.

I believe fake riots are meant to create the impression of:
1. ‘Police’(or military) are willing to brutalize the citizens
2. There exists violent criminal rioters/agitators
Normal people, who are afraid of being brutalized, nor want to associate themselves with criminals, are therefore incentivized not to participate in future protests. Real revolution is thus pre-empted by a fake one.

It can be imagined, that after the staged riots, the government will make some kind of concession to make the emotions die down. Then wait a month or so, to reintroduce the same unpopular law under a different name. And this time, the public will no longer have the appetite to tolerate the unrest that they ‘believe’ happened.

Of course, staged riots can also create division by manufacturing two opposing camps, but the point is, ‘division’ is not a necessary component or the goal of staging these riots.

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In other news,
there was a shooting in Hamburg, and another one in Tel Aviv on exactly the same day: Mar 10.
For the one in Hamburg, it’s frankly shoddy to have the ‘police’ who were supposedly confronting with the gunman not wearing any helmet; and the use of dummies to fake victims (such as in the video here: https://twitter.com/AnveshkaD/status/16 ... 02625?s=20)
It’s similarly shoddy for the one in Tel Aviv where the ‘pedestrians’ run away with the phones to their head: https://youtu.be/Zl-OjPF8TmU

More interestingly, following the last ‘earthquake’ in Turkey - which I believe had a faked narrative - it was now claimed there was another earthquake in Ecuador/Peru(6.8 earthquake, Mar 18), and another one in Pakistan/Afghanistan (6.8 earthquake, Mar 22). Frankly, I don’t even know if I should believe an earthquake actually happened by this point; but judging from the footage in the mass media, they do not look anything like 7 degree earthquakes, the damage to the streets also looks rather staged.

Finally, there were 3 fake school shootings on 3 consecutive days, starting from the Spring Equinox (Mar 20) - TX Arlington, Lamar High, Mar 21 - TX Dallas, Thomas Jefferson High, and Bonesman’s day (Mar 22) - CO, Denver East High;
(side note, these coincides with Xi’s 3-day visit to Russia)
Personally, I think they are rituals that have some association with Christ’s resurrection (in some traditions, Christ supposedly died on the Spring equinox)
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simonshack wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:49 pm *
SIMON SHACK’S FAMILY TREE (on father’s side)

Dear all, today I spent some fun time digging into my ancestry / genealogy. As you grow older and wiser, you'll all probably find it interesting to find out some more detail about your ancestors - were it only to keep some historical record of your OWN 'roots' & origins. I was already vaguely aware that Nicolai Wergeland (one of the founding fathers of the Norwegian Constitution) was among my distant ancestors - but had no idea that he was a pretty much direct relative of my sweet grandmother!

So let's start with my great-great-great grandfather... :)

Nicolai Wergeland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolai_Wergeland
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Nicolai Wergeland (9 November 1780 – 25 March 1848) Norwegian minister, writer and politician, and a member of the Norwegian Constituent Assembly at Eidsvoll that wrote the Constitution of Norway on 17 May 1814. He represented the unionist side, and came very well prepared to Eidsvoll, bringing his own constitution draft. During the drafting of the Norwegian constitution, Wergeland was one of the principal authors of the Jew clause, which prohibited Jews from entering Norway. (The clause, in its original form, banned Jews from entering Norway, and also forbade Jesuits and monastic orders. The clause roughly translates as: "The Evangelical-Lutheran religion is the state's public religion. The inhabitants who practice it are obliged to raise their children in the same. Jesuits and monastic orders must not be tolerated. Jews are excluded from access to the Kingdom." Christian Magnus Falsen, Georg Sverdrup and Nicolai Wergeland were the central delegates behind the wording of the section's final paragraph. The wording was adopted on May 4, 1814. Those behind the law were highly educated and among the country's most well-read men.

Nicolai Wergeland's son Henrik Wergeland is often characterized as Norway's national poet, and a symbol of the country's independence. His daughter Camilla Collett is regarded as Norway's first feminist writer. Nicolai Wergeland (my great-great-great grandfather) fathered 5 children, one of whom was:

Harald Titus Alexis Wergeland (May 1 1811 – January 20 1893) Harald Titus Alexis Wergeland (my great-great-grandfather) fathered 2 children, one of whom was:

Jens Nicolai Hagbart Wergeland (April 8, 1854 – February 3, 1917) Jens Nicolai Wergeland (my great-grandfather) fathered no less than 13 children! One of whom was my adorable grandma, nicknamed “Lillemor” (little mother) :

Hilborg Hjørdis “Lillemor” Hytten (née Wergeland) July 5 , 1897 – August 8, 1960

Image <--- my grandma "Lillemor" Wergeland (or 'Hytten' - by marriage)
>>> Wow, that is some very telling - and quite admirable, to say the least - genealogical line my dear Simon. I've always tend to think that certain things happen for a - pre-determined - reason, you certainly do carry your great ancestors' genes with you and I feel immensely blessed to have you as a friend. :)
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

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Did anyone on the forum ever made a case for the 2003 Iraq war being a hoax?
I found a thread on the war casualties:
https://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?t ... t=Iraq+war

but it does not seem, anyone serious considered that:
fake casualties -> fake war

Since no one made the case for it, I will make one:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1640 ... 23552.html
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1640 ... 41696.html
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Greetings from Greater Earth.

^ Yes.
9/11 courtesy of ubs/credit suisse
Iraq fake war courtesy of ubs/credit suisse
Corny Virus courtesy of ubs/credit suisse
Ukraine fake war courtesy of ubs/credit suisse

cluesforum: "Credit Suisse is the company responsible for the management of the United States' Social Security databases. ( and everything else on the plane) .

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?t ... isse_Group

They were "bailed out" yesterday. 250 Billion Swiss Francs. The cost of living has tripled here, I wonder why.

Bye!
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