Interesting Concepts Worth Further Consideration

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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

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Dear Matt,

DNA EVIDENCE? Are you kidding me?
Please read the following article: ... .html?_r=1
Let me quote from it to whet your appetite:
Scientists in Israel have demonstrated that it is possible to fabricate DNA evidence, undermining the credibility of what has been considered the gold standard of proof in criminal cases. The scientists fabricated blood and saliva samples containing DNA from a person other than the donor of the blood and saliva. They also showed that if they had access to a DNA profile in a database, they could construct a sample of DNA to match that profile without obtaining any tissue from that person.
So, they came out with it in the open. Considering the evident israeli involvement in 9/11, is it possible that they knew the technology long before they came out in the open? Perhaps already used it somewhere?
Please reconsider your opinion on the value of 9/11 DNA evidence.
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Re: Common Misunderstandings. . .

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[Admin Notice by SCS on November 3, 2018: This topic is a place to move posts that touch on common misunderstandings (in general), and don’t otherwise “fit” in a specific topic. But they are too good for either the “Garbage Bin” or “The Derailing Room.”]
ICfreely wrote:Others may disagree but I think the average Jew is as brainwashed & misled as the average Gentile.
I think we can safely say that is extremely likely... heck we've, in recent months, even seen Jewish members of Cluesforum (!) show absolutely no scepticism towards the numerous absurdities of the Holocaust story that we've all been told (we've also, quite incredibly, seen gentile members try & promote "Jewish" & "white" supremacist beliefs with a similar lack of scepticism).

That is some pretty impressive brainwashing!

I recently stated to a Physicist friend of mine that he & his undoubtedly Scientific work (basically just coming up with engineering improvements on infra red lasers... like the ones used on remote controls across the world) help provide cover for the "scientists" discussed on Cluesforum.

Your average scientist working, say, in a micro-lab & counting colonies on a Petri-dish have NOTHING to do with the "scientists" supposedly detonating multi-megaton devices on the other side of the planet decades ago. Yet the terms are deliberately mingled so as to cause confusion.

This is not unusual in the scam world... for instance one goes to a bank to "borrow" money & take out "a loan" following a promise to "pay back", with interest, this "service".

Of course, in reality, nothing has been "borrowed" or "lent". It is a lie in which language has been used against the average Joe... even the MSM admit this now to some degree.

An obvious "CONspiracy" and one which, presumably any day now if "Scientists" like Grimes are to believed, will soon collapse due to an "internal leak" :rolleyes: .

Simon has come up with the term JPM to help try & eliminate some of this cover.
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

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It never ceases to amaze me how little Westerners (especially Jewish Westerners) know about Judaism. I must admit that if my knowledge of Jews was limited to books/documentaries I would most likely have a very negative impression of them. For that reason I kind of get where Jumpy was coming from. The thing is I've studied, worked and socialized with them my whole life. They're just as susceptible to group-think as anyone else.

They're also extremely diverse (ideologically/philosophically). No offence meant to other Jews but the real/original Jews are the Iranian Jews. Judaism originated in Iran. Iranian Jews have a 3000+ year history there. Moreover, they've never been kicked out of Iran. They have an 'Iranian (Aryan) first, Jewish second' mentality. There's a genuine bond between Iranian Jews & Gentiles within Iran as well as Iranian expat communities around the world.

Despite these facts, just the mention of 'Iran' to the average Western Jew strikes fear in their heart! :o

If only they knew...

I've been meaning to post a 'case study' of the similarities of the Armenian/Jewish holocausts. My premise is that both groups have bought into a false and self-defeating 'perennial victim' mentality.
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

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I reiterate that everyone (especially Jews) should familiarize themselves with the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. I don't believe it's a Jewish conspiracy. In other words, I don't think all Jews are in on it. How can they be? I can't say the same for JPM's and their Masonic lackeys. The Iranian revolution is a classic case study of how the learned elders topple Kingdoms.

Decadence and Downfall: The Shah of Iran's Ultimate Party - BBC Documentary

full link:

God Almighty sent Moses to Destroy the Kings who blasphemed and strayed from the righteous path and showed us that we have to enter into government and politics and topple all the Kings of our age. If we are decisive, we will be successful. The hand of God is with Muslims who are united and speak as one. Foreign leaders and Kings eat like vultures and beasts. They will burn in hell.

Excerpts from the P.L.E.Z.
Pg 30
The constitution scales of these days will shortly break down, for we have established them with a certain lack of accurate balance in order that they may oscillate incessantly until they wear through the pivot on which they turn. The goyim are under the impression that they have welded them sufficiently strong and they have all along kept on expecting that the scales would come into equilibrium. But the pivots -- the kings on their thrones -- are hemmed in by their representatives, who play the fool, distraught with their own uncontrolled and irresponsible power. This power they owe to the terror which has been breathed into the palaces. As they have no means of getting at their people, into their very midst, the kings on their thrones are no longer able to come to terms with them and so strengthen themselves against seekers after power. We have made a gulf between the far-seeing Sovereign Power and the blind force of the people so that both have lost all meaning, for like the blind man and his stick, both are powerless apart.

Pg 36
In the times when the peoples looked upon kings on their thrones as on a pure manifestation of the will of God, they submitted without a murmur to the despotic power of kings: but from the day when we insinuated into their minds the conception of their own rights they began to regard the occupants of thrones as mere ordinary mortals. The holy unction of the Lord's Anointed has fallen from the heads of kings in the eye of the people, and when we also robbed them of their faith in God the might of power was flung upon the streets into the place of public proprietorship and was seized by us.

Pg 37
"Per Me reges regnant". ("It is through me that Kings reign.") And it was said by the prophets that we were chosen by God Himself to rule over the whole earth. God has endowed us with genius that we may be equal to our task. Were genius in the opposite camp it would still struggle against us, but even so a newcomer is no match for the old-established settler; the struggle would be merciless between us, such a fight as the world has never yet seen. Aye, and the genius on their side would have arrived too late. All the wheels of the machinery of all States go by the force of the engine, which is in our hands, and that engine of the machinery of States is Gold. The science of political economy invented by our learned elders has for long past been giving royal prestige to capital.

Pg 44
We might have reason to apprehend a union between the "clear-sighted" force of the goy kings on their thrones and the "blind" force of the goy mobs, but we have taken all the needful measure against any such possibility: between the one and the other force we have erected a bulwark in the shape of a mutual terror between them. In this way the blind force of the people remains our support and we, and we only, shall provide them with a leader and, of course, direct them along the road that leads to our goal.

Pg 52
We shall deal with the press in the following way: What is the part played by the press today? It serves to excite and inflame those passions which are needed for our purpose or else it serves selfish ends of parties. It is often vapid, unjust, mendacious, and the majority of the public have not the slightest idea what ends the press really serves.

Pg 71-72
As the majority of conspirators act out of love for the game, for the sake of talking, so, until they commit some overt act we shall not lay a finger on them but only introduce into their midst observation elements. . . It must be remembered that the prestige of authority is lessened if it frequently discovers conspiracies against itself: this implies a presumption of consciousness of weakness, or, what is still worse, of injustice.
You are aware that we have broken the prestige of the goy kings by frequent attempts upon their lives through our agents, blind sheep of our flock, who are easily moved by a few liberal phrases to crimes provided only they be painted in political colours. We have compelled the rulers to acknowledge their weakness in advertising overt measures of secret defence and thereby we shall bring the promise of authority to destruction. ... f_Zion.pdf
Blind sheep of our flock?

Anyhow, here's a partial list of monarchs who lost their thrones in the 20th century.
1910 – Korea - Emperor Sunjong abdicated in 1910 by the Japan-Korea Annexation Treaty.
1915 – Poland - The portion of Poland formerly ruled by Russia was occupied by Germany and Austria in 1915 and proclaimed an independent kingdom in 1916. Archduke Charles Stephen of Austria was named King-elect, but the nation was declared a republic without ever actually having had a King in the 20th century.
1917 – Russia - The monarchy was abolished and replaced by a Provisional Government which was in turn overthrown months later by Lenin, which would by 1922 become the Soviet Union.
1918 – Austria-Hungary - Emperor-King Charles I & IV was deposed in 1918
1918 – Lithuania - Designated King-elect Mindaugas II (Wilhelm Karl, Duke of Urach), was deposed following the end of World War I
1922 – Turkey - Sultan Mehmed VI was deposed following collapse of Ottoman Empire in 1922
1925 – Albania - Prince William fled Albania in 1914 following the outbreak of World War I (he was formally deposed in 1925).
1939 – Albania (kingdom) - King Zog I (president turned monarch) was deposed by Italy under Benito Mussolini
1943 – Macedonia - Voivode Julius I was deposed in 1943, after German occupation.
1943 – Croatia - Designated King Tomislav II (Prince Aimone, Duke of Spoleto) of the Independent State of Croatia abdicated in 1943 after the Italian capitulation
1944 – Iceland - King Christian X of Denmark ceased to be King of Iceland in 1944 when the country became a republic by referendum and which terminated the Personal Union with Denmark.
1945 – Vietnam - Emperor Bao Dai abdicated in 1945 when communists, called Viet Minh, seized control of the nation.
1945 – Yugoslavia - King Peter II was deposed by Axis powers in 1941 and by Josip Broz Tito in 1943 (deposition formalized in 1945).
1946 – Bulgaria - Tsar Simeon II never abdicated but was exiled by the Bulgarian government following a national referendum in 1946 after which Bulgaria became a People's Republic.
1946 - Hungary- Hungary was proclaimed a republic by the National Assembly on 1 February 1946. Regent Miklós Horthy was deposed in 1944 by Adolf Hitler.
1946 – Italy - King Umberto II was deposed by a referendum abolishing the monarchy in 1946.
1947 – Romania - King Michael I was removed as King in favour of his father Carol II in 1930. He returned to the throne in 1940, but was forced to abdicate in 1947 by the communist government.
1949 – Ireland - This situation came to an end in 1949 when the Republic of Ireland Act came into force, stripping the King of his role in foreign affairs and making the President of Ireland de jure and de facto head of state.
1955 – Morocco - Sultan Mohammed Ben Aarafa abdicated in 1955.
1958 – Iraq - King Faisal II was deposed and murdered in a military coup d'état
1967 – Greece - King Constantine II was exiled in 1967 and was deposed by a referendum abolishing monarchy in 1973 (both events under dictatorial rule), during democratic rule the referendum was repeated in 1974, and the monarchy was abolished.
1969 – Libya - King Idris I was deposed in a coup led by Muammar Gaddafi on 1 September 1969 a day before his abdication was due to take effect.
1973 – Afghanistan - King Mohammed Zahir Shah was deposed in coup
1979 – Iran - Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi was deposed by revolution ... _centuries
In short, most of the world's monarchies were abolished during WWI, WWII and the Cold War - as predicted by the Protocols.
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

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"The protocols" are just "Sun-Tzu the art of war" reedited. period!

"Sunt-Tzu" first brought to Europe by the French Jesuits in 18th century, "The protocols" spawned also by the Jesuits in the beginning of 20th century allegedly on personal order of Supreme General Leduchowski.

Funny thing this Jesuit-"Jew"-Jesuit reciprocity . Jesuits act, "Jews" take a blame :)

IXXI/full spectrum dominance, permanent psyopera and all roads lead to "Rome" !
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Re: Why a topic about a conspiracy dominated by Jews

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"There is no proletarian movement, not even a Communist one, which does not operate in the interest of money, in the direction indicated by money and for the period permitted by money, and all this without the idealist in its ranks having the slightest suspicion of the fact."
--Oswald Spengler

I’m posting the following excerpts in order to provide a very brief and cursory overview of some of the more notable events that lead to the downfall of the Iranian Monarchy.
History of the Jews in Iran - The Second Temple period
The Pahlavi dynasty implemented modernizing reforms, which greatly improved the life of Jews. The influence of the Shi'a clergy was weakened, and the restrictions on Jews and other religious minorities were abolished. Reza Shah prohibited mass conversion of Jews and eliminated the Shi'ite concept of ritual uncleanness of non-Muslims. Modern Hebrew was incorporated into the curriculum of Jewish schools and Jewish newspapers were published. Jews were also allowed to hold government jobs. In 1915 two Jewish brothers, Mordechai and Asher ben Avaraham, opened the first Jewish newspaper called "Shalom". These changes moved the balance of power in the Jewish community from elders and Rabbis to the youth. Establishment of Zionist Organization of Persia further accelerated this transfer of power to the young Jews. The Jews of Persia understood that "Zion" is the biblical name of Jerusalem and Zionism demonstrates that end of exile and the beginning of redemption. The Persian Zionist Aziz ben Yona Naim wrote in early 1920s :"Zionism is nothing but a new name and new institution, for the Zionist idea has been present in Jewish thought for over two thousands years."

However this Zionist awakening led to bitter rivalry between two leaders of Jewish community: Loqman Nehourai and Shmuel Hayyim. Furthermore, even though Reza Shah was sympathetic to the Jews in the beginning, he became distrusted of Jewish movements with the growth of Zionism. Reza Shah sought to unite the different ethnic groups in Iran under the flag of nationalism. His main purpose was to fight communism but he distrusted the zionism as well. Shah did not like the growing connection between European Jewry and Persian Jews. He further arrested Shmuel Hayyim and had him executed in 1931 under the charges of conspiracy to murder the Shah and change the form of government from constitutional monarchy to a republic. ... ple_period

'Aryan', from the Aryan race

In 1833, an Oxford University professor used the term Aryan to describe a group of languages with common origins. Although he later admitted that parts of his theory were erroneous, the theory of an Aryan race was used by a group of romanticist writers and western historians in quest for an ancient identity.

The Germans, eyeing vast expanses of land in Central Asia, called themselves Aryans and cried for a return to the homeland. They used the Swastika, which, as a "wheel of Mithra (Sun/Fire)" used to be the arm of the Iranians since ancient times, as a Nazi symbol, to have an alibi to invade Russia.

The French, British, Russians and recently Americans found different reasons to call themselves Aryans. ... rigins.php
The first Pahlavi era and Nazi Germany
The Shah went on to ask the international community to use the native name of "Iran" in 1935 to address to his country, which in Persian means 'Land of the Aryans' and refers to Airyanem Vaejah, the Avestan name of the original homeland of the Aryans. Although the country has been known as Iran to the native people themselves for many centuries, Westerners came to know the nation as Persia through Ancient Greek accounts. Iranians were immune to the racial Nuremberg Laws on the grounds that they were said to be deemed "Aryans". In 1939, Nazi Germany provided Iran with what they called a Germany Scientific Library. The library contained over 7500 books selected "to convince Iranian readers ... of the kinship between the National Socialist Reich and the Aryan culture of Iran". In various pro-Nazi publications, lectures, speeches, and ceremonies, parallels were drawn between the Shah of Iran and Hitler, and praise the charisma and virtue of the Führerprinzip.

From 1939 to 1941 Iran's top foreign trade partner (nearly 50% of its total trade) was Germany, which helped Iran open modern sea and air communications with the rest of the world.[11]

In 1941, the Allies forced Reza Shah to abdicate the throne to his son, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. ... zi_Germany
The Formation of the Tudeh Party of Iran
Following the collapse of Reza Shah's regime, with the new conditions prevailing, a large group of political prisoners were released. These included Dr. Arani's group (known as the Group of 53) who adhered to the communist ideology. The first foundation stones of the Tudeh Party of Iran were laid by these communists. On 29 September 1941, the founding conference of the TPI was held in Tehran under the chairmanship of Soleiman Mohsen Eskandari. Later the Tudeh Party of Iran turned into a significant and influential political force. ... arty01.php
In order to fight the growing racial antisemitism among the Iranian population, many Jews joined the Tudeh party and advocated for communism. Even though Jews comprised less than 2 percent of Iranian population, almost fifty percent of the members of the Tudeh party were Jewish. Tudeh party was the only party among the Iranian political parties that accepted Jews with open arms. Most writers for publications of the Tudeh party were Jewish. Furthermore, many Iranian Jews viewed communism as a Jewish movement since many leading members of the communist revolution in Russia were Jewish and were looked upon favorably by Persian Jews. ... ple_period
The reign of shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi after the deposition of Mossadegh in 1953, was the most prosperous era for the Jews of Iran. In the 1970s, only 10 percent of Iranian Jews were classified as impoverished; 80 percent were middle class and 10 percent wealthy. Although Jews accounted for only a small percentage of Iran's population, in 1979 two of the 18 members of the Iranian Academy of Sciences, 80 of the 4,000 university lecturers, and 600 of the 10,000 physicians in Iran were Jews.[68] An important factor in economic improvement of the Jews was close relations between the Shah and the state of Israel. Details of this connection and how the condition of Iranian Jews improved dramatically in a few short years still awaits rigorous exploration. ... ple_period
Iran: Some Angles on the Islamic Revolution
The reality, however, was very different, for what looked so like an America-Israeli alliance was in fact only the picture presented by an altogether different imperialism which had come into existence, displacing and replacing all the separate national imperialisms. What began quite early in the present century, and proceeded at a much accelerated pace after the end of World War II, was the progressive dismantling of all the separate national imperialisms, including the American, and their absorption into something unprecedented in recorded history -- a global financial imperialism.

There can be no doubt that a major factor in bringing about this change in the realm of high finance was the long-continued existence within the different nations of Europe of Jewish banking families or dynasties which had always specialized in transnational operations. [15] The story of how these financial dynasties consolidated their power on an international basis is explained at some length by Prof. Carroll Quigley in his 1300-page "History of the World in Our Time," Tragedy and Hope.

It all began with what Quigley called "the third stage in the development of capitalism ... of overwhelming significance in the history of the 20th century, and its ramifications and influences subterranean and even occult." He adds:
"Essentially what it did was to take the old disorganized and localized methods of handling money and credit and organize them on an international basis."
In fact, American and Israeli influence were at all times inseparable. Prof. Algar says that after the coup of 1953, which ousted Mussadeq, there was cooperation at all levels, especially in intelligence and security work. He adds:
"After a certain point it appears that the task of staffing the Savak was taken over by Mossad, the Israeli security, from the CIA although the CIA always retained the right of supervision over the operations of Savak. I know of many people who report having been interrogated and tortured by Israelis while in the custody of Savak."[29]

The first step was to make Israel virtually synonymous with America in terms of foreign support in all fields, and then, by steady progression, provide the shah with a means of suppressing all internal opposition. In fact, the shah's security forces were virtually taken over by the Israelis and reinforced with non-Islamic personnel, largely recruited from non-Muslim population elements, especially the Bahais, largely people of Jewish descent no longer practicing the Jewish religion. This gave the shah an instrument which could be used with the utmost ruthlessness against the population and against the religious class in particular.
Shah's Reforms (White Revolution)
The Shah's regime implemented a set of reforms from above under the name of the white Revolution, a major part of which was on land reform. In addition, an important aim of the reforms was to uproot the obsolete feudal system and transform Iranian society to a modern society. The Tudeh opposed these reforms in an article in its central organ dated 20 February 1963.

One of the most important characteristics of this period was the re-appearance of the religious movement against the Shah's regime. The religious movement which had lost all credibility and influence after Ayatollah Kashani's betrayal of the popular government of Dr. Mosaddeq in favour of Shah in the coup of 1953, surfaced once again, this time in opposition to the Shah. The religious leaders entered the arena of anti-Shah struggle because they feared losing their social base as a result of the reforms made by the Shah which threatened the feudal system and "Westernised" Iranian society. The clergy using the religious sentiments of the people and their network organised large demonstrations in Tehran and Qom on 6 June 1961. The demonstrations were suppressed by the army. A large number of demonstrators were killed. ... arty02.php
The Guerrilla Movement
It was less than a month after the demonstration in Qom, when the people of Tabriz stormed the streets and challenged the Shah. Meanwhile the Tudeh Party of Iran and its underground organisation, "Navid" started to recruit the young people and organize its regional committees.

The people armed struggle and resistance on 8th, 9th and 10th of Feb. inflicted the decisive and final blow to the regime of the Shah and put an end to the 2500 years of monarchy in Iran. ... arty03.php
Iran, the Revolution and the Language of War
Suppression of liberals and others on the Left, like the Tudeh (party of the masses), had gone on under the monarchy in Iran. Tudeh supported the 1979 revolution while others on the Left opposed it. However, the alliance between the Tudeh Party and Iran’s emergent ruling clergy collapsed in the early 1980s. Then it was back to the past. For the leader of the revolution, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the United States was the “Great Satan,” and Iran had to follow a course that was neither East (meaning Russia) nor West. America was held responsible for what went wrong in Iran in the decades before the overthrow of the Shah. And the fact about the Soviets having invaded Iran could not be forgotten. ... ge-of-war/
This hell's kitchen of secrecy and intrigue outside Iran had its equivalent inside the country. In the aftermath of the. revolution all the Freemasonry lodges in Iran were closed and their archives seized, confirming what many had suspected. Many of them were controlled by Jews or Bahais of Jewish origin, providing another channel of secret communication with Israel and Zionism in general.
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Interesting Concepts Worth Further Consideration

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In this topic I will attempt to organize interesting posts that have otherwise been “lost” or forgotten in an unrelated topic, including the “Chatbox,” “The Derailing Room,” or the “Introduce Yourself” thread.

Such things may be turned into new topics, or may be commented on here.
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Re: Chemtrails: chemical weapon or psychological weapon?

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TErikson » December 3rd, 2018, 12:41 pm wrote:
Kham » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:59 pm wrote:If you could please, TErickson, summarize the videos for the readers. This way we can all gain the knowledge you are presenting.

Thank you so much,


Yes, of course, but I suppose these are themes that will drive away the members of the CluesForum.

The author of the video presents the correlation between heat wave and the cessation of spreading in some areas.

The increase in skin cancers by 2000% due to the harmfulness of the sun (sun that has appeared white for 15/20 years and not yellow as before). ... s2312.html

The weakening of the atmospheric layer is always faster.

The chemtrails would protect the population, reduce the effects of the sun's rays on Earth.

I myself in Normandy can testify that the days without any clouds in recent years are very difficult.

The title of the video = the announced end of the chemtrails

The author mentions various prophecies indicating three years of global drought after the Third World War. Dryness caused by the cessation of spreading programmes due to the war.

The chemtrails would be like spider webs composed of chemical particles (such as barium etc.) to reduce the effect of the sun's rays.

Basically to summarize the video.
Thank you for that summary. I don’t think there’s anything about that which would drive our members away.

The whole “chemtrail” issue is one that has lingered around for me as a “wait and see” topic. Looking backwards, here are my observations, for whatever they may be worth.

Having seen plenty of contrails over the course of my life, I know the difference. They aren’t the same thing.

That said, I’ve never been quite comfortable referring to this phenomenon as “chemtrails” either. The term itself almost suggests (implicitly perhaps) some nefarious poisoning taking place.

On a very basic level, there isn’t anything to be gained by deliberately sickening the populace as a whole. The elite still need people to do the heavy lifting in society.

And the Alex Jones types of the world have been trying to scare the ever-living $h!t out of people for about two decades now. Notice the key role he (and others) serve. That is, regardless of the “issue,” the big bad scary culprit is the government and secret societies.

So, he pretends to criticize or “stand up” to these “authorities,” and (most importantly) simultaneously perpetuates (and indeed strengthens) the illusions that are constantly working to create what I refer to as fear based “mass paralysis.”

Please Note: I DO NOT claim to know what these streaks in the sky actually ARE.
I suppose even a harmless spraying of matter that results in a white trail may be described as chemicals (in the broadest sense).

That said, there is a level of “monkey business” going on here, which I think (in part) has to do with “good old fashioned” mind screwing of a segment of the public that they wish to gaslight to the point of being discredited.

In retrospect, there appears (especially around 2008-2010, or so) to be numerous DBA campaigns designed to get people to make bold proclamations on social media (and elsewhere) such that they would ultimately be left empty, and (possibly) to never again be taken seriously.

That partly explains my own reluctance to seize upon any alleged phenomenon too quickly.

It would be interesting to see when the first “chemtrail” activity began appearing on YouTube and so forth. Oh yeah, there were plenty of big FEMA Camp horror (prediction) stories around 2008-2009, if memory serves me correctly.

In any event, I would be surprised if the whole chemtrail thing didn’t have multiple purposes, not the least of which would include a huge amount of money going to someone/something to (likely) overpay for the stuff (whatever it is) and its disbursement.
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Re: Interesting Concepts Worth Further Consideration

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brianv » January 3rd, 2011, 10:34 am wrote:Many a true word spoken in jest!
12th: New figures reveal that the number of people who perished in the attacks on 11 September may be as low as three. Counsellors are on standby to help New Yorkers deal with the trauma of being more upset than they needed to be. Pressure mounts on Mayor Giuliani - already criticised for his insistence that Ground Zero be kept shrouded in smoke - after the dust cleared briefly last week to reveal that the South Tower was still standing. Psychologists say original estimates of 6,000 were probably much larger due to 'all kinds of shit'. ... .terrorism