fbenario wrote:I thought we decided a while back that we would no longer host discussions of Illuminati or other 'secret' groups, numerology, strange letter patterns, or anything related to esoteric silliness? All the recent posts in this thread seem like exactly what we got so tired of dealing with.
Fbenario,
Stuff Gyges is writing about isn't silly. Can't you see the difference between his analysis and the usual nonsense spread by clueless or paid shills elsewhere on the internet ? Please do not harass him because his research is uncomfortable for you for whatever reason.
Keep up the good work Gyges you got my brain cells moving again!
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So sorry for Boston if you had other (tiring) questions

but... what can I do ?? that's the problem of "forums" to me : it's a place to "discuss" or to "argue" but maybe it's not the best place to explain things or to learn...
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It's the right place full of open minded people ready for a legitimate discussion and research so do not stop, especially now when I have just become your personal fan
Some interesting stuff regarding Jakub (Jacob) Frank:
Guy was jailed by Polish authorities in Częstochowa and kept there for 13 years ( probably this number was chosen for the legend building suggesting his martydrom and initiation ). When Częstochowa was taken by the Russians during the first partition of Poland he was released, assigned a passport and left for Bohemia and Austria when he was pimping his daughter to the Emperor. Lots of his followers, called "przechszty" ( converts in Polish ) kept financing him mainly from Warsaw, sending gold to support his entourage and the flamboyant life style. Some years before he pulled off a massive, simultraneous conversion of around 13 thousand followers in Lwów cathedral.
Częstochowa today is a Virgin Mary's cult location where "pilgrims" go on a regular basis, very important in Polish martyrology ( fed down our throats since the very beginning of "education"). Frankism itself comes from teachings of Sabbatai Zwi . They both had connections with Turkish court in Istambul, they were both born on Polish territory ( we had a common border with Ottoman Empire back than ).
Anyways, descendants of Frankists are overrepresented in Polish "elites" even today as the last names suggest ( Przybylski, Jeziorański, Olszewski, Majewski, Kwiecień etc. )
After Frank's death in Offenburg, Germany his daughter and sons used to perform "fakes" in front of the followers in a form of dressing one of the Frank brothers in the father's clothes selling the myth of his resurrection. Frankists were also financed by the Rotschilds from the nearby Frankfurt.