ATTC @ Mar 31 2010, 12:24 AM wrote: What we have to realize is that it's an information war fare.
The elite the TPTB, their power is artificial. Their power is upheld because of our compliance to their power.
And how do they get that compliance? Because they have given the people the illusion of freedom. They are winners because they control the public perception and that is mainly because they control the media. Of course our #1 culprit in 9/11 which all the disinfo movements seem to naturally want to protect.
They don't mind if you implicate Al-CIAda, Bush Co, PNAC, and other Neo Con players, but you can't go after the media, the true head of the snake and tool that transcends those puppets.
So how do we "win" the information warfare. Well it starts by taking apart their propaganda. Like the JREFers these people are trained in the art of demagogy. They say if you can't dazzle them with brilliance baffle em with BS. Google Propaganda Techniques or Logical Fallacies and that's pretty much the sophist shill modus operandi.
Arguments from ignorance, incredulity, straw man arguments, red herrings, etc etc etc. We have to be aware of these tactics, and how to counter them. Just like there are frequently asked questions, there are frequently shilled comments. If we are prepared for those and know how to take them apart the stronger our case can be.
I give you an example.
Jason Bermas (who now more than ever is obviously a shill. Maybe he didn't start out that way but the way he protects the media perps it's more obvious than ever)
He was asked on some radio show about TV Fakery. I typed out the exchange:
Nik: You say you don't put anything past them. I know you want to uncover the truth. I have one point I'd like to bring up. I've wanted to talk about this for a moment. Anyway do you believe Todd Beamer phone call was fake?
Jason Bermas: goes on tangent about Todd Beamer, Mark Bingham, etc. Classic mainstream truth arguments
Nik : Ok with all that said, and I appreciate you saying that please let me finish You know you said that more than likely there was not a lot of debris at the Pennsylvania crash and long story short I've seen some compelling evidence if you look at all the victims, supposed victims of the plane crashes, you look at their pictures,
there's some very strange anomalies.
Very strange similarities in each of the victims pictures. It may appear as if some of the victims were actually simulated, created in a computer database, as part of this war games scenario
And they're touted as being 9/11 victims like Todd Beamer, and they use his
"let's roll" line and other victims were actually fake victims on that day
Look at the pictures go to septemblerclues.info memorial analysis
Jason Bermas: Alright Nick, I gotta let you go man. You're bringing September Clues which is total garbage and once you start talking about these people were fake, look they had family. Uhh I don't know what you're talking about.
Todd Beamer no matter what you believe whether he made the phone call, his wife wrote a book. That's a real person.
Uhh, you know, Deborah Burlingame, is a real person. She lost her husband who was one of the pilots supposedly at the Pentagon
And then when you try to plug a site like september clues, which is OBVIOUS lie, you know I'm sorry man it's been proven time and time again, that these are just bull shenanigans, these claims that they make on these things.
Man I can't even, folks they have this one video where they claim it shows the nose coming out of the plane but if you look at ALL the other videos from every single angle, the first thing that does come out of the other side is... i mean I'm not saying it's the nose of the plane but it's that same protrusion.
And this is their BIG EVIDENCE for TV Fakery. And then they overlay a bunch of videos shot from different angles at different aspect ratios and say because they don't line up perfectly TV FAKERY. You know they make ridiculous claims because of interlays issues on MPEGs that wings disappear. TV FAKERY. I mean there's absolutely zero, zero credence to this.
I've seen more 9/11 footage than probably 99.9% of the people on this PLANET.
I watched the first three days of news from all the major networks and to say
some of these people were computer simulations man, people like Cee Cee Lyles, they were not computer simulations. Betty Ong, these people had families. I think that is more than a little insulting. Alright, I guess I had to get off on that little tangent for a little while. Let's go to Chuck in Michigan, Chuck you're on the line...
Being able to protect against the claims that Bermas made like about the overlays, the victims families who "wrote books" are "obviously real" the dismissive proof by assertion method another propaganda technique such as "it's been proven time and time again"
wonderful, so he just prove the point that "real" people wrote the book
But you should have explain about the plane dug a hole in the ground from flight 11....That will make a great fairy tales.