NickOfTime @ Jul 2 2010, 11:21 AM wrote: When Concord ceased operating, one of the main reaons given was the loss of custom from CF staff who apparently made up a significant part of the passengers. If the CF staff didn't exist, then who was travelling using their "identities".
NickOfTime 4 Jul 2 2010, 06:21 AM wrote:2) The ejecta. I use as my source the 2008 research edition of 9/11: Blueprint for Truth (The Architecture of Destruction) with RIchard Gage AIA, Architect.
The relevant section of the DVD is at 1hr 18min where the collapses are analysed. Ejecta can clearly be seen shooting across to the World Financial Centre from a shot taken from south of the south tower. There are multiple shots of the collapse from different angles, but this is the most relevant one.
Also the blurb inside the cover has the bullet point "Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally 600 ft at 50 mph".
3) One thing I forgot to post last time was a reference to the Cantor Fitzgerald employees. When Concord ceased operating, one of the main reaons given was the loss of custom from CF staff who apparently made up a significant part of the passengers. If the CF staff didn't exist, then who was travelling using their "identities".
NickOfTime 4 Jul 2 2010, 10:21 AM wrote:
4) In terms of practically all the victims being sims, it makes more and more sense. If there were any real relatives of real victims then they could not help come across the many challenges posed to the official events of the day. At first I thought that they were all bought off with the very large compensation sums awarded, but this troubled me, as there are principled people out there (the majority I hope) who would have seen blood money for what it was, and that it should not get in the way of the truth.
The "Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth" organization had until late 2009 an article on their site describing, in finely detailed manner, the timeline of the WTC 1 "11 second collapse". When I pointed out to them the approx. 18-sec collapse from the CNN live feed, I received this succinct reply from their webmaster: "Thanks for your message, we have now removed the relevant article from our website."
http://www.septemberclues.info/wtc_collapses.htm
simonshack @ Jul 3 2010, 11:08 AM wrote:NickOfTime 4 Jul 2 2010, 10:21 AM wrote:
4) In terms of practically all the victims being sims, it makes more and more sense. If there were any real relatives of real victims then they could not help come across the many challenges posed to the official events of the day. At first I thought that they were all bought off with the very large compensation sums awarded, but this troubled me, as there are principled people out there (the majority I hope) who would have seen blood money for what it was, and that it should not get in the way of the truth.
Nick,
I'm glad to read your no-nonsense thoughts as expressed in point 4).
As for points 1-3 :
1) So I guess the mystery thickens as for the "319" figure? If it was, as you say, quoted in a book (as opposed to being, say, a typo in a brief newspaper article) it is all the more difficult to understand how the 'error' occured.
2) I'll try to get hold of that DVD and check out what you refer to as 'ejecta'. As for Richard Gage, I can only refer you to what I have written on my website regarding the "Architects and Enginners for 9/11 Truth" credibility :
The "Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth" organization had until late 2009 an article on their site describing, in finely detailed manner, the timeline of the WTC 1 "11 second collapse". When I pointed out to them the approx. 18-sec collapse from the CNN live feed, I received this succinct reply from their webmaster: "Thanks for your message, we have now removed the relevant article from our website."
http://www.septemberclues.info/wtc_collapses.htm
3) Regarding Cantor Fitzgerald, I have a much graver question which screams for an explanation: If you go to their OWN, official memorial page listing their lost employees, you can find them listed from A to Z. Try counting them (If I remember well, I think there are somewhere around 370 - but no more than 400...)
CANTOR FITZGERALD 9/11 MEMORIAL
http://www.cantorfamilies.com/cantor/js ... .jsp?LNL=A
Now, there is no question that the official death-toll at CF is supposed to be 658. That figure is reported virtually everywhere.
http://www.metafilter.com/35526/Three-y ... Fitzgerald
So what's the matter with their OWN memorial? How offensive is it for those (over 200) families not having their loved ones listed on their OWN company's memorial?...
I'll let you ponder about that. <_<
Just for fun I submitted these pics to a couple of PS-Fail sites. So far no response to whether they made the cut to be featured.
fbenario @ Jul 4 2010, 01:18 AM wrote: Nick, please read the Vicsim Report before you waste any more time trying to identify fake people who never lived nor died - and thus weren't in any imaginary planes, or worked for any perp companies.
http://www.septemberclues.info/vicsims/ ... Report.pdf
SmokingGunII 4 Jul 4 2010, 10:45 PM wrote:
Patricia was MD at Deutsche Asset Management in 2000 and after his alleged death released a book along with 3 other 9/11 victims' widows, entitled, "Love you. Mean it".
http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news ... book_x.htm
"Our husbands were so much alike. People wanted to be around them," Julia Collins says.
"They were handsome, generous and fun," Claudia Gerbasi says.
"They appreciated life," Patricia Carrington says.
"They lived well, every single day," Ann Haynes says.
"We often say we should have met before," Collins says.
"But this was meant to be," Carrington adds
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