hoi.polloi wrote:PPS: I think some of you are a bit too harsh if others doubt some findings or think not everything is fake or a hoax...
I know what you mean, but across the whole Internet, there is roughly only one 'community' where you admins want you to doubt everyone and everything presented (including themselves and each other at times, as long as it is done sensitively and optimistically!) and that is this one. So please only bring your best irrefutably authentic, non-tampered-with evidence to a case where you think you have something legit, and prepare to have that evidence eviscerated anyway, because different people can see different things. Or don't attempt it at all here if you are going to be precious about it. We are better as a forum for dissecting media, not for constructing new media. For making up new conspiracy theories, Fakeologist.com may be a more appropriate playground for you. Please do not take offense to anything I have written.
Thanks. And welcome!
I took some time to read back posts on this thread and have to say this rings untrue to me. It doesn't seem like you all doubt what you know to be true, nor do you challenge everything presented "sensitively and optimistically."
You are also not always precise with your responses. Hoi Polloi puts quotes on the word "awakening," which implies I said that, and I never did. Brianv refers to Pier 42, when I had stated I had volunteered at Pier 94.
Your way of weeding out shills is calling people "full of shit" and ridiculing what they share to prove they are who they say they are.
By the way, Hoi Polloi, a book packager is not someone who designs the covers. It involves putting the concept of the book together and lining up all the people who would be involved. And then marketing that to bigger publishers.
In your last post to me Hoi Polloi, you accused me of saying that the efforts of those talking "truth to power" was meaningless. Do you really think you are speaking truth to power when you discount out of hand, someone's eye witness account?
And here's the thing I'd like to leave you all with. I didn't experience 9/11 on TV, as many of you did. I didn't watch television until later in the day. I'm not a news watcher and consider myself a very discriminating person when it comes to information.
This is the first time I've shared my own story on a 9/11 forum, or any forum for that matter. I live in an isolated place on a farm, and the only person I have to talk about it with is my husband, and he's not that into it. So I took the chance here.
I understand that this is at the leading edge of research, but you've shown me that you've got a massive blind spot. And that's the experience of people who were there. I'm not talking about the fake witnesses, the media people and all that. I'm talking about people, like me -- people you might (eventually) be able to consider as genuine.
Do you think they could've pulled off a controlled demolition with so many non-perp eyewitnesses? Wouldn't the event on the ground need to somehow match up with the fake TV imagery?
This might be a dimension to consider, and one that interests me, as I try to reconcile these "realities."
I understand that you guys are quick on the draw due to having so many trolls. I can take some of that, and have here, just to clear my "name." As an outsider coming in and not knowing what you guys are about, I found it mean-spirited, as if you're trying to outdo each other with the witty insults. Is this speaking truth to power? It even crossed my mind that maybe you've got opportunistic disrupting forces within your own ranks to create a hostile atmosphere.
I haven't presented any sob stories here, only the reality that my experience was one of full immersion, not one of seeing it on television. I'm not new agey, just able to think with both sides of my brain. I was also there, and a lot of people (not just me) had lingering effects from it. Some of you don't know what it was like to be there, that much is obvious to me.
Maybe one or more of you will give what I've said here some thought, about the ordinary folks watching from the ground, like I was.
The problem with thinking you know it all, is that you've got to defend that furiously, if new information comes in that doesn't match up. I can't prove to you here on this forum what I saw that day, but I know what I saw. And this has been very illuminating.
Guess the first important thing is grammar here, second maybe only come here if you stand 100% behind their theories already before joining.... I say again, I might be totally wrong, these are only my personal impressions and observations so far
I'm done with this clown!