REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

[birdman2]

Hi EMF,
Glad to see you here! There's at least a couple of us here from NZ (that I know of) it's great to see another. I usually just read and lurk but so glad to be able to keep coming back to hear from everyone else who sees the 'news' in this way.
Nau mai, haere mai e hoa!
(welcome, friend!)

[hoi.polloi]

Welcome, EMF. What does your name mean, if you don't mind me asking? And is there any more detail about your story of 9/11 and/or finding September Clues?

[EMF]

Hey birdman2, thanks man. Yeah, it is cool to see some other kiwis here too. In general I find it cool that there are folks here from all over. I like to envision a giant pin board of sorts with our various locations dotted all over. Something that is not always as obvious, and which I sometimes wonder about, is what walks of life people here are coming from, and what other common experiences that we have. It would be interesting to meet some fellows in person some day.

Thanks Hoi. As uncreative as I am, EMF stands for Exposing Media Fakery. Needing a user name, not wanting to use any of my other ones, and having looked at the top of the screen for inspiration, that's what I came up with.

I first started with Loose Change, in maybe 2004. I noticed that it was the number one most watched video on google video, which was new at the time. Although I just thought it would be wacky, I felt that I would be remiss if I didn't take a look at what so many others were apparently viewing on the subject. I remember having problems with that film from the outset, in that some of the claims seemed unsubstantiated and were probably impossible to verify, but it showed me enough to get the ball rolling on my quest for truth. I spent a bit of time watching some of the other documentaries that were available at the time and checking out guys like David Ray Griffin and Steven Jones. Soon though, I felt it wasn't worth wasting time on the details and that a few of the big ticket items - building seven, collapse speed, molten steel and so on - were sufficient to adequately disprove the official story. I moved on to all kinds of other, conspiracy related subjects, and while I became vaguely aware of notions such as nuclear demolition and holograms, I paid them no attention.

Last September 11, I randomly decided to watch the four hour Dimitri Khalezov presentation, which I found to be quite convincing. For the first time I found the idea of no planes credible and I watched September Clues. I'd first heard of it on concen.org, a bit torrent file sharing site for conspiracy related material. It then took me a couple of days to remove all notions of a missile, of nukes, of live compositing of events, and also to realise that the collapse footage was also cg and then a couple more days to get my head around the vicsims. The question of the missing fliers was something I was especially interested to look into, because I had seen them first hand and remembered them vividly. I do remember at the time thinking it was weird that, considering the given situation, so many people would think their loved ones might just be "missing".

Since then I have enjoyed reading much of the forum here and getting into the real scope of the whole thing.

[simonshack]

Last September 11, I randomly decided to watch the four hour Dimitri Khalezov presentation, which I found to be quite convincing. For the first time I found the idea of no planes credible and I watched September Clues.

Welcome, EMF - that was an interesting 'truth-search journey' of yours.

I find it hilariously ironic that, as I understand it, it is thanks to the pathetic Khalezov clown that you eventually were brought to watch September Clues. I can only hope that, just as you wisely shoved aside the inane nuke-demo / hologram theories, you will now find the comical Russian-nuke-expert Dimitri a tad less convincing...

In any case - and for your entertainment - here's Khalezov interviewed by two other mega-clowns, Gordon Duff and Kevin Barrett - two close buddies of "ex"-military boy Jim Fetzer who, of course, has now also reached his own, definitive "nukes-did-it" conclusion:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brQqRLCxJew

See, I believe that the "nuke-demolition" meme (of the WTC complex) was always meant - ever since day one - to become the 'final conclusion' to be peddled by the controlled-opposition crowd (such as the military-owned "truther" site Veterans Today and the like). Nuclear weapons are themselves an old military-hoax - and a MOST CRUCIAL one for the Nutwork to keep alive and kicking. It is no fluke that the TV anchors (on the very day of the "attacks"!) were already referring to the WTC area as "GROUND ZERO".

[EMF]

Hi Simon. Yeah, right at the start of the Khalezov presentation, he discusses the physics of aluminium vs steel, he mentions the "nose out'" and he also talks about the presence of black frames indicating digital manipulation. From memory, I think he has it that the compositing was done live. It was the first time I gave any real thought to these ideas, and so I followed them up by viewing September Clues as I understood that it posited some similar concepts.

I hear what you are saying about the "ground zero" framing device - I agree that it is there by design. I also think that the collapse footage was created to fit into the nuke demo theory, as this was for me, the main reason I found the idea convincing in the first place.

[Pilgrim]

My truth-seeking days go back to the early 90s but many years ago I realized that the so-called Gurus of the "truth movement" were anything but and how they often reinforce deceptions.
I was already 99% convinced that the moon landings were fake and that much of what we see on the "news" is psyops and social engineering. I also believe Hollywood and the cult of celebrity hides many a fake and that not all of these people are even actually real, from body doubles to who knows what? Also, I have come to the understanding that many so-called scientific theories such as Evolution and AGW are mostly fiction and at best can only rely on the logical fallacies of Induction and the affirming of consequents that has to ignore contradictory evidence by default and paradigm.
I was drawn to this site both by looking into fake dinosaurs and the fake space program as well researching the true nature of the Earth and Space (if space even exists)
I am a Christian but please don't let that put you of as this is not a theological forum and all kinds of people have been taken in and brainwashed by media fakery including Atheists, Christians and Agnostics.

[Critical Mass]

Hi Simon,

Thought I'd like to join your research forum & join in the fun of wrecking the games these clowns are playing...

However there is something you should know about me... you see I know an actual 9/11 victim, Marianne Simone, who you callously mocked in this post here... I met Mary once at a dinner with 9 other guests. She was the life & soul of the party... her warmth was infectious & she never grumbled about her numerous disabilities. Her permanently frozen face or overly large broken cartoon foot on ludicrously long leg*. I will remember her always comically limping her way to heaven... what an angel she were!

*

No such luck I'm afraid... I'm just a UK National, a Biologist by education, but currently work as a QAM in food manufacturing.

Before I had my suspension of disbelief broken by the bank bailouts & finally realized there was something seriously wrong with the world I was the most brainwashed dickhead ever... heck I even supported the Iraq war for gods sake!

My awakening has been a long & troublesome one (who's hasn't been though?) but I seem to have avoided most of the larger rabbit holes (Jones, Fetzers, Woods etc) & (thanks in part to a guilty passion I developed for wrestling!) have come round to understanding that much of what I believed about the world is fake/staged.

My new goal in life is to do some small part in helping to end this horrible brainwashing of the young & perhaps usher in a new era of 'enlightenment' by awakening humanity to the dangers posed by psychopaths, deceivers & emotionally driven beliefs.

I am fully on board with your 9/11, ISS & Apollo conclusions, open minded about your satellite/rocketry conclusions & absolutely fascinated by your nuclear research. I've been researching the atomic weapons hoax for the past seven months (It was a new years resolution of mine) & have come up with a lot of stuff you'd probably find interesting... but even more questions (breaking down the seismic stuff is proving time consuming & baffling).


Kind regards

Kieron

[antipodean]

Critical Mass, are you saying that you don't see anything odd about the image posted below ?

edit : just re read your post I think your being sarcastic.

[Critical Mass]

As I have explained she had frozen face syndrome yet never once did she complain... she was such an inspiration.

I know she is looking down on all of us now... smiling... and limping... or possibly hopping along with the angels on her grotesque cartoon foot... difficult to say really.

[hoi.polloi]

Hi, Critical Mass. Welcome. I hope your name is some providence indicative of a coming awareness amongst the 'hoi polloi' about these absurd hoaxes. It has been a long uphill struggle against the general population's ignorance, overworked-ness, gullibility, historical situation and lack of time or energy to dedicate to learning and exploring the world we live in. Let's try to fix that and make a critical mass of awakened thinkers.

[simonshack]

Welcome Critical Mass,

I like your handle /username. The day most people will crack jokes about the cartoonish 'angels' of 9/11 - and trigger infectious laughter all around them - we will most probably have reached critical mass... May this blissful day come soon !

[Critical Mass]

Thanks guys... I'm thinking of booking a holiday soon, does anyone know if Angels circle is a nice place to visit?

[Slimbull]

Hello, from the north East of England.

I watched September Clues earlier this year and like many
others have been reading on this forum ever since.

What led me to watching SC ironically was Ace Bakers
'Psy-Opera' which i found very convincing until i started
looking up the guy himself and wow what an idiot. I thought at
the time that he had ridiculed himself to such an extent that
his documentary would also be ridiculed just by association
(which i think was the point).

But it was while looking him up that i heard of September
clues and cluesforum and i really can't regret that as its all
just part of that learning curve which brought me here.

I was for a long time big into Alex Jones/Rense/Icke etc I
used to think i was looking for the 'truth', but since being
on here reading and learning from whats being investigated i
cannot find any real argument apart from basically what
amounts to name calling coming from these supposed 'truthers'.

I don't watch TV anymore now and to be honest i haven't looked
back either. The amount of fear induced crap emanating from
these mainstream and alternative media outlets is (to me) a
crime. Fear porn i think is the phrase used on here and it
fits perfectly.

As for media fakery in general, i had no idea just how
widespread it is and I've spent the last four/five months
basically rearranging how i view the world. i deleted my
youtube account (a bit hastily in retrospect) as it was full
of 9-11 videos that were, for want of a better phrase were
plane-hugging videos..

But i made a new one slimbull filter (named after a box of
filters, Bullbrand. I'm a Taurus too so thought why not).
There is only one new video and two from my former account
(sliding322) but i hope to add more soon as time goes on.

Also after registering here on Saturday (19th) i made my first
blog on wordpress called antischeme, I have 8 posts on it so
far most of which were inspired by this forum.

To be honest i should of been blogging years ago yet i could
never get motivated and even confident enough to do it.
Thankfully that's changed now.

Anyway so that's me.

Thank you for reading and I look forward to making worthwhile
contributions in the future.

(p.s. this is my third attempt at this introduction, it keeps
saying I'm not logged in when i submit it then i lose the page!
So I'm writing this on notepad and will copy n paste it over).

Edit: I will work on that copy n paste so it fills more of screen.
2nd Edit: I registered here on the 18th and made my blog on same day, not the 19th. Apologies Editing is not a habit i want to get into, but must correct if wrong.

[brianv]

Welcome, Slim. The cutoff time on posting is probably set low. Wise to CTRL+C occasionally if your post is a long one.

[Slimbull]

Welcome, Slim. The cutoff time on posting is probably set low. Wise to CTRL+C occasionally if your post is a long one.

Thanks for the tip brainv, 'note to self - no coffee breaks while posting'