"you are one step away from being an anti-semite"
Personally, I don't mind being called an anti-semite if I can prove that Jews are evil. HECK would that make things easier. It was greedy Zionist Bankers. Everyone hates them already, so what a great solution. Unfortunately, I can't prove that they are the most to blame (though I'll continue to emphasize personal responsibility. Nobody should get off with the whole Nazi thing of "I was just following orders" bullshit.)
Now, I wish I could prove someone was evil in all this 9/11 business but to me I just see jerks being jerks - fucking over each other at every given opportunity because it's not just profitable - it's fun and hilarious to laugh and profit at other peoples' expense. At least, so I'm told. So they make it seem. (I personally try to avoid being such a jerk every waking moment but it doesn't help if I say that about myself, does it? Nobody believes me that I'm a nice guy when I'm posting such vitriol on message boards like this. Maybe I'm not nice when I'm more "anonymous" ... hm, need to work on that ... )
I am not singling you out - I took offense to your language because I am a hot head when I hear people say things like it's dangerous to investigate details instead of generalities. Maybe that's not what you were trying to say but that's what I heard you say.
As for Israel being a culprit, you seem to have intelligent things to say about the matter. I wouldn't discredit your opinions before you get them out. I just want to caution people against posting Coffinman's "Missing Links" and saying they "solved 9/11" with the "Zionist Question" ... or something similar. You are obviously not doing that, and I respect that you are trying to have an intelligent discussion; I apologize if I am getting in the way of that - I honestly should just shut up myself because I haven't added much to say about Israel and this is the Israel thread.
It was not for religious reasons, clearly. It happened because of who controls money (when nations went to banker to finance wars or revolutions, banker could say: "what about palestine?"), and because of lobbying. More importantly it happened because the goal of Israel is and has been the only long-term --across decades-- goal amid a bunch of smaller goals based, as said on this thread, on plain greed for individual power and money.
That's in my opinion what made the zionists who worked for a Jewish nation stronger over time and capable to win the corruptible elites of the west to this. Eventually, after the Holocaust, it was impossible to resist to the request.
Think about it, Yalta could have created a new nation over there on the model of Egypt or Saudi Arabia or Kenya, using local respected (and corruptible) elites --what could be the harm? Why the hassle of an occupation, of apartheid, of an endless source of problems?
No six days war, no constant pressure to solve crisis, no constant requests for support and all the rest. Who could have wanted the headache if not the zionists themselves?
I liked hearing this, not that it matters what I think. But at least it shows you are telling an interesting story about the matter. I also agree with Martin's research on the ADL.