THE NUKE HOAX

Global War deceptions & mass manipulation, fear-mongering terror schemes and propaganda in the Age of the Bomb

Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread postby pov603 on Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:47 pm

When MSM peddles this sort of article: 'A point of view: When historical fiction is more truthful than historical fact' it makes you wonder how much of manipulation of the masses is their sole/main agenda.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29060077
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread postby Critical Mass on Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:29 pm

A Very Scary Light Show: Exploding H-Bombs In Space

Anybody interested in the utterly absurd original footage can watch this...


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZoic9vg1fw
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread postby Fadge on Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:06 pm

Hello,

As my first post on the forum, i would like to share a very interesting video.

It's obvious, that this video is part of the russian propaganda of course, but as a french, I agrre with the geo-political message.
This video is interresting in various aspects, but i want to share it because of the "nuke fakery" aspect.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNnsnPR_EiI
(Activate the subtitles to understand )
At 2'54 you can see a nuke explosion, and 3 others on the map (Kiev, and 2 others cities).
The first explosion seems to be in a nuclear power plant.

As you can see, the fakery in 2014 is much more sophisticated than in the 40'es, and it wiil be very difficult to expose if a "false flag" nuclear explosion hoax is perpetrated.
It's the first time (as i know) that an official video show a fake nuke as a fake nuke.
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread postby brianv on Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:26 pm

Sorry Fadge I didn't watch the video. I'm not entirely "au-fait" with scare-mongering lunatic propaganda videos being posted on Cluesforum.

I'd just like to comment on this - "As you can see, the fakery in 2014 is much more sophisticated than in the 40'es, and it wiil be very difficult to expose if a "false flag" nuclear explosion hoax is perpetrated."

One word actually! Fukushima.
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread postby simonshack on Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:20 pm

brianv wrote:I'm not entirely "au-fait" with scare-mongering lunatic propaganda videos being posted on Cluesforum.


Sorry Brian, but that is just wrong. I personally keep posting, for instance, old scare-mongering nuke propaganda from the 50's or 60's - and one could even say that all of the 9/11 imagery (and much more) we discuss and dissect on this forum is fear propaganda. That's what we do here - and in order to do that we have no choice but to re-publish it here (to intelligent readers hopefully immune to this fear-mongering crap) in order to pick it apart and expose it for what it is.

Please try and be a little nicer with new members registering here and boarding our 'valiant spaceship', Brian - and make them feel more at ease. If they successively turn out to be clowns, we can always open the jettison hatch.
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread postby brianv on Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:37 pm

simonshack wrote:
brianv wrote:I'm not entirely "au-fait" with scare-mongering lunatic propaganda videos being posted on Cluesforum.


Sorry Brian, but that is just wrong. I personally keep posting, for instance, old scare-mongering nuke propaganda from the 50's or 60's - and one could even say that all of the 9/11 imagery (and much more) we discuss and dissect on this forum is fear propaganda. That's what we do here - and in order to do that we have no choice but to re-publish it here (to intelligent readers hopefully immune to this fear-mongering crap) in order to pick it apart and expose it for what it is.

Please try and be a little nicer with new members registering here and boarding our 'valiant spaceship', Brian - and make them feel more at ease. If they successively turn out to be clowns, we can always open the jettison hatch.


Sorry Simon.
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread postby hoi.polloi on Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:02 pm

I liked the part where the Russian missile flew through the Federal Reserve bank. Hilarious. So the Russians are aware of the "anti-Federal Reserve" movement as well and have worked it into their own PsyOps.
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread postby Critical Mass on Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:41 pm

hoi.polloi wrote:So the Russians are aware of the "anti-Federal Reserve" movement as well and have worked it into their own PsyOps.

Is Max Keiser not on RT?

Still he too sells fear porn.

I'm intrigued by the modern war promo that Fadge has found... Fadge you described it as an "official video". Can I ask what you meant?

I notice they seem to have dropped the blinding flash 'brighter than a thousand suns' gimmick... I wish they could make up their minds.

2.38 In the underwater detonation, a ball of fire is undoubtedly
formed, as in the case of an air burst. Observers of the " Baker"
test at Bikini saw the water, in the vicinity of the explosion, lighted
up by the luminosity of the ball of fire. The distortion due to the
waves on the surface of the lagoon prevented any clear view of the
ball, the general effect being described as having the appearance of
light seen through a ground-glass screen. The luminosity remained
for a few milliseconds, but it disappeared as soon as the bubble of hot
gases constituting the ball of fire reached the water surface, for then
the gases were expelled and cooled.
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread postby Fadge on Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:02 pm

brianv wrote:Sorry Fadge I didn't watch the video. I'm not entirely "au-fait" with scare-mongering lunatic propaganda videos being posted on Cluesforum.

I'd just like to comment on this - "As you can see, the fakery in 2014 is much more sophisticated than in the 40'es, and it wiil be very difficult to expose if a "false flag" nuclear explosion hoax is perpetrated."

One word actually! Fukushima.


Brianv,
as you had answered quickly to my post, (and I'm slow at writing in english :( ) maybe you have missed the last sentence of it, that i had added after re-reading it.
The point, for me, of this video isn't the propaganda aspect of it.
It's the fact that officially a fake video of a nuke explosion is realized and broadcasted by a government.
We have seen a lot of fake nukes in movies like "terminator" wich no-one pretending to be real.
We have seen also a lot of real nukes which are faked ( the "tests" of the bombs, and Hiroshima/Nagazaki ) .
Now we have a government that broadcasts a fake footage, and due to the context of the video, is obviouly fabricated / unreal.
Do you understand what i mean ?

More, the "one word" answer you have made isn't relevant to the fakery of a nuke explosion. The "little" explosions in the power plant of fukushima have never been explained as nuclear explosions (nuclear chain reactions) but gaz explosions in the buildings due to overheat.

@Simon: Thanks simon. I'm 40 years old, and i have a lot experience in "dicussions" on internet forums (not in english i confess). I will not be discouraged by several hard or lapidory comments. But for future contributions, i will try to be more explicit on the purpose of the post to avoid misunderstanding.

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Critical Mass wrote:I'm intrigued by the modern war promo that Fadge has found... Fadge you described it as an "official video". Can I ask what you meant?

To answer to you. I call it "official" because the youtube account that brodcast-it is obsiouly linked to moscow.
The youtube channel that first broadcasted it ( https://www.youtube.com/user/okeyamnet/feed ) is a kind of "soft diplomacy" on the social networks. The quality of the videos are obviously the work of a professional team, that an "amateur" isn't able i Think. Yes, nowhere there is the word "Russia Official" but i can't imagine that this video is not a part of the foreign affairs of russia. Yes, i don't have this proof, is just a feeling, i admitt. Indeed this aspect have to be answered, but as i'm not able to read russian at all, it's hard for me to investigate more than that on this aspect ("official") of this youtube channel.
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread postby simonshack on Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:05 pm

Critical Mass wrote:Fadge you described it as an "official video". Can I ask what you meant?


The video that Fadge posted is quite obviously not made by some amateur Youtube artist - or the like. It is just as official (in the sense of being financed / motivated by the Nutwork's agenda ) as the slick, special fx-filled "9/11 PSYOPERA" credited to Ace Baker - who obviously did not make that movie all on his own. As it is, the Ace Baker personage almost appears to be a digitally 'cartoonified' character in his own movie.

In other words, the overall "Hollywoodish" production level of that Russian video suggests that it wasn't made by some amateur enthusiast.

It's funny, you know: my own September Clues documentary has been, over the years, been "accused" of being :

A: "TOO MESSY AND AMATEURISH TO BE CREDIBLE BY ANYONE."
B: "TOO SLICK AND CRAFTY TO BE CREDIBLE AS THE WORK OF ONLY ONE MAN"

Well, the fact is, September Clues IS the work of only one man (with ZERO outside help).
So I guess that, at least according to some viewers, I made a decent job about it. ^_^
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread postby fbenario on Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:13 am

simonshack wrote:we discuss and dissect on this forum is fear propaganda.

AKA fear-porn!
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread postby Critical Mass on Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:48 am

Fadge wrote:To answer to you. I call it "official" because the youtube account that broadcast-it is obviously linked to Moscow.

Ahh I see it's 'official' in a 'nudge, nudge wink-wink' kinda way... I also see Simons point that it is obviously a professional & well funded video & not a creation from some teenager in Omsk.
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread postby Critical Mass on Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:19 pm

As noted previously Operation Desert Rock footage in particular displays a layered, composite look.

This is even more noticeable in the longer, black & white version.

I barely even need to point out the gigantic, movie white-out, 'flash' which again fails to affect any shadows & the stock artillery explosion(s) soundtrack.

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread postby Fadge on Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:10 pm

Ukraine : Kiev claims that moscow have used tactical nuke warheads.

You can see pictures and videos of explosions, and the rubbles after.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-20/military-plant-east-ukraine-devastated-massive-explosion-kiev-blames-accuses-russia-

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It seems that, as the Ukranian army is loosing against the separatists, they have destroyed a huge stockpile of explosives to not "give" them, and now are blaming moscow to have used "nuclear tactical warheads".

It's funny that, as a conventional explosives are so similar to a nuke explosions, they have though of this hoax.
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread postby Critical Mass on Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:43 pm

The Daily Mail again...

Madcap 1960s plan to use 23 nuclear bombs to blast through California mountains and make way for highway

The scheme, which was deemed 'safe' by scientists at the time, is one of more than two-dozen ideas dreamed up at the height of the atomic age for Operation Plowshares - a bid to harness the devastating power of nuclear weapons for civilian use.

Other ideas included using five bombs to dig out a harbor on Alaska's North Slope, digging an alternative to the Panama Canal across Nicaragua and using underground blasting to unleash the oil from the tar sands in Canada.

During this time, engineers were testing the limits of nuclear propulsion - drawing up plans for nuclear yachts and ferries, nuclear-powered rocket ships, nuclear powered planes and Ford even designed a prototype for a car - the Nucleon - with an atomic reactor.

Project Carryall intended to blow open the mountains to make room for a new highway and rail line through the southern Mojave desert. Route 66 and the parallel train line had to run several miles of the way to get around the steep mountains.

The plan called for 22 nuclear bombs to be detonated deep in the mountain to blast a 500-foot deep chasm. The final fission explosive would have been used to create a crater for drainage.


BOATS, PLANES AND AUTOMOBILES: THE CRAZY 1960S PLANS TO STRAP A NUCLEAR REACTOR TO NEARLY ANYTHING

The atomic age caused America to dream of world without internal combustion engines or fuel. Engineers designed small ships, airplanes and even rocket ships with nuclear reactors - though few came to reality. Ford even fleshed out a prototype Ford Nucleon fission-powered car equipped with its own nuclear reactor.

One project that did come to fruition - the NS Savannah, a 600-foot cargo ship and cruiseliner - was built in 1959 to show off the peaceful uses of nuclear energy. Barely bigger than some modern day super yachts, the ship was dramatically smaller than nuclear-powered warships of the day.


Nuclear powered plane...
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Nuclear Yacht...
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Fords 'Nucleon' car...
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You know I used to hate the Daily Mail but since watching September Clues I've really grown to love it!
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