THE "CHATBOX"

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"Powerful" Images of 2013

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A couple pauses between salvaging through the remains of a family member’s home one day after a tornado devastated the town of Moore, Oklahoma.

-ADREES LATIF / Reuters
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A demonstrator is shot by rubber bullets as riot police charge after clashes erupted during a protest against corruption and price hikes in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

-Christophe Simon / AFP / Getty Images
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Tammy Holmes and her grandchildren take refuge under a jetty as a wildfire rages in the Australian town of Dunalley.

-Tim Holmes / AP
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An anti-government protester gives a rose to a Thai soldier at the Defense Ministry during a rally in Bangkok.

-AP Photo/Wason Wanichakorn, File
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Garrett McNamara attempts to break the Guinness World Record for largest wave ever surfed on in Nazare, Portugal.

-Tó Mané / Barcroft Media / Landov
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An Indian youth dangles from a power line before diving into the floodwaters of an overflowing Ganges river in Allahabad in August.

-Sanjay Kanojia / AFP / Getty Images
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A woman tries to stop a military bulldozer from hurting a wounded person after clashes between security forces and opposition groups that left hundreds dead in Cairo.

-Mohammed Abdel Moneim / AFP / Getty Images
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A Pakistani man carrying a child rushes away from the site of a car bombing in Peshawar, northwest Pakistan.

-Mohammad Sajjad / AP
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A young man jumps from the Yangtze River Bridge in Wuhan, China, into the river following another person who committed suicide minutes earlier.

-STR / AFP / Getty Images
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A man rescues a woman from her car on a flooded road in the Athens suburb of Chalandri in February.

-John Kolesidis / Reuters
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A Bahraini anti-government protester is engulfed in flames after a shot fired by riot police hit the gasoline bomb in his hand that he was preparing to throw.

-Hasan Jamali / AP
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Bill Iffrig, 78, lies on the ground as police officers react to a second explosion at the finish line of the Boston Marathon.

-John Tlumacki / The Boston Globe / AP
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Visitors watch water gushing from a section of the Xiaolangdi Reservoir on China’s Yellow River during a July 6 operation to remove built-up silt.

-China Stringer Network / Reuters
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Survivors of Super Typhoon Haiyan, which left 1.9 million homeless, take part in a religious procession in Tolosa on the eastern Philippine island of Leyte.

-Philippe Lopez / AFP / Getty Images
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Riot police guard gay rights activists who have been beaten by anti-gay protesters during an authorized gay rights rally in St.Petersburg, Russia.

-Dmitry Lovetsky, File / AP Photo
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A Turkish riot policeman uses tear gas against a woman as people protest against the destruction of trees in a park brought about by a pedestrian project, in Taksim Square in central Istanbul.

-Osman Orsal / Reuters
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A couple runs near riot police gathered at the Mane Garrincha Stadium in Brasilia, Brazil, on Sept. 7 before the international friendly soccer match between Brazil and Australia.

-Ueslei Marcelino / Reuters
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Women carrying children run for safety as armed police hunt gunmen who went on a shooting spree in a shopping mall in Nairobi, Kenya that left 67 dead.

-Goran Tomasevic / Reuters
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An Indonesian child watches as ash spews out of Mt. Sinabung.

-Roni Bintang / Reuters
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lux wrote:Speaking of Sal Mineo, here is the only photo I could find that allegedly shows him in his ... uh, fatally stabbed state:

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http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/noto ... neo/6.html

"The autopsy revealed that Sal died of a single stab wound to the heart," the above news story says.

Evidently Sal's heart had no blood in it. It must have all gone to his enormous feet.
Hilarious observation, Lux. And the TruTV story you quote from ties the same coroner to this victim as well.
Jeffers writes that testimony by L.A. County Medical Examiner Dr. Noguchi revealed that when he had inserted the knife into Sal's incised stab wound, he found a perfect match between the perforation in the tissue and the blade.
So, it can be observed from a photo I took of the actual site of the reported Paul Walker accident that the street was leading into a curve (as observed from the 15 MPH cautionary sign toward the upper left side of the 1st photo below.) And I took the photo from the approximate spot where the pole would have been dislodged from (referenced by the trash can and grayish box on the ground in second picture.)

I wonder then, why would there have been a decision made to raise the speed limit from 35 to 45 in this short stretch of road since the last google maps photo was taken? (Pics 4 and 5) ^_^

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Sign Language Clown "at" Mandela tribute

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The media in England is whooping with laughter over the sign language hoax at the Nelson Mandela commemoration in Johannesburg. The Official Line is that the hoaxer is a certified loon - who somehow tricked his way in - and got within striking distance of world leaders!


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpPvGP_GUXs

Much more likely that the footage is a fake. The videostream was sabotaged! With the sign-language clown chroma-keyed into the frames, just before they were fed globally!

With the objective of ridiculing black South Africa as an inept nation "in chaos". One that has "lost its way" (the BBC's words).


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-ImlJzx6W8
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Trenton Oldfield - London Boat Race 2012

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Earlier in this fast-moving thread the "Trenton Oldfield" hoax was mentioned. "Trenton" reportedly sabotaged the London Boat Race 2012. It's somewhat of a non-story, since few of us gives a damn about his alleged actions, nor his alleged punishment. But maybe these silly little hoaxes have a greater chance of waking up others to the extent of media fakery that we are dosed with every daily?

"Trenton" is a fairly obvious sim. Maybe he's 100% CGI'ed, or maybe there's an actor or model who plays the role of this Ozzy rebel. Either way, the image below of "Trenton" with his wife & child, doesn't stand up to basic scrutiny. The Independent has shamelessly used the faux-tograph on several occasions now!

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 93322.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 73804.html
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Interesting. Hard to get more blatant than that kind of layering problem. I guess it's not "to wake everyone up" but to continue coldly studying and recording the various reactions to fakery. Many will still suffer cognitive dissonance and insist it's real. You may be right that the "low production values" hoaxes might be more useful to help us wake people up though, since yeah — as you say, they come with a few more problems.

:D

Perhaps they are even doing photoshop clowning to pseudo-real people who want in on the act, now. It's hard to say what the media will do to cover up their previous ineptitudes, but I'd guess that's one of them. Another will be the continually strange coverage of disasters. Disasters which are real but which the media can modify with virtual reality pockets on the edges of the undeniable.
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Mark / Marlon Duggan - London Riots 2011

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Back in August 2011, England was shaken by rioting not seen for a generation. The catalyst for the unrest was the fatal police shooting of a 29-year-old black man named as MARK Duggan of Tottenham, North London.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Mark_Duggan

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MARK DUGGAN: Fatally shot by police

The black community was naturally outraged by MARK's untimely death. However, the Crown contends that Duggan was armed and dangerous - a black gangster notorious for his violence. The family deny all of that. The gun, they say, was planted on his corpse. Disputes that only fueled the growing anger, fear and racial division in the country.

Soon the unrest was spewing out of London and into other cities. In the Handsworth district of Birmingham, Yardie gang members even set the police station on fire. :blink: It was some days later before calm was finally restored. And two years on, tensions between the black communities and the police remain heightened.

This week, the North London coroner, His Honour Judge Keith Cutler CBE, resumed the inquest into MARK Duggan's death, reigniting the memories of it all. The Duggan family were photographed with their barrister, Michael Mansfield QC, attending a hearing:

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Above, back right is MARK's younger brother, MARLON Duggan.

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MARLON is strikingly similar to his late brother MARK. He could easily pass for his double... MARLON also has a curious relationship with the press. Often pictured hiding conspicuously behind his cap, or his hoodie, or someone else! It's just as if MARLON wants us to see him, but not by too much!
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The "Mark" images do look thoroughly weird, especially compared to the "Marlon" images.

Do you suppose the government pulls off these tabloid-style stories just to get a reading on the populace? For example, start a riot to unearth and/or vent government resentment?
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hoi.polloi wrote:The "Mark" images do look thoroughly weird, especially compared to the "Marlon" images.

Do you suppose the government pulls off these tabloid-style stories just to get a reading on the populace? For example, start a riot to unearth and/or vent government resentment?
Most likely. Very contrived protests are taking place today on university campuses. The main one being "Cops Off Campus". :wacko: In support of the "Justice for Marlon Mark Duggan" campaign. :rolleyes: Scarcely natural bedfellows - this new solidarity between yardie gangsters and middle class white students! The protest itself is maybe irrelevant, so long as it flushes out the troublemakers?!

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The same activists are bemoaning their lack of coverage in the mainstream media. The blackout only reinforcing their faith in the new social medias. Twitter & Facebook - the only "trustworthy" sources for news & info! In practice, they are bombarded by anonymous and unattributable propaganda, coupled to a vast intelligence-gathering network!

Viz the Duggan PSYOP though - it has an overtly racist and threatening message to it. The cops can and will kill young black men, and the coroner and the courts will exonerate their killing. In that sense, it doesn't really matter that Mark Duggan is a vicsim. If you're black, watch your back!

EDIT: Just noticed.. probably nothing to it!
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Evil Edna wrote: EDIT: Just noticed.. probably nothing to it!

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Ehrm... (*cough cough*)

So since "KLON" means clone in German - there may be something to it, namely:


JEREMIAH DUGGAN - "23-year-old LaRouche activist killed/suicided in Germany"
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"Jeremiah Duggan was a British student at the Sorbonne who died on 27 March 2003 in Wiesbaden, Germany, while attending a youth cadre school organized by the LaRouche movement, an international network led by the American political activist Lyndon LaRouche. (...) His mother said he became interested in politics after 9/11, and told his parents he felt it was important to protest against the Iraq war, which is what led him to take an interest in the LaRouche movement."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jeremiah_Duggan

Worth looking into, imho... <_<
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Off to a friend's (my former recording-studio engineer) wedding in Sicily - will be offline for a few days.

Happy holidays to all. :)

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Investigators have found no evidence that the Porsche carrying actor Paul Walker had mechanical problems before it crashed, killing the "Fast & Furious" star.

Investigators with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department have calculated a range of the speed at which they think the car was traveling, but they won't firm up that number until Porsche engineers come to California next month in the hope of extracting information from onboard data collectors.
(Next month? No problem, gents... take your time. No hurry.)

It's good to see a few entries in the comments section appearing to be authored by individuals invoking their own cranium contents regarding this "news story." However, with all of the conspiracies already attached since the onset, it makes one wonder if that is ultimately the intended legacy of this spectacle.
If you can look at a melted crushed hunk of metal and pretend you can know all the mechanical systems were working properly when it was intact you've got a pretty good scam going...congrats.

They found no evidence because it was "effectively" destroyed. So now the cretins want us to believe they "know" the answer is speed.

How right you are mojo. The chp are full of #$%$..

yeah exactly my point, the brake lines alone burned up in the crash how do they know what condition those were in? still dont explain while 'after successfully negotiating the turn.' the driver just lost it without obvious reasons.
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/official-no-m ... 41012.html

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http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainmen ... -1.1533786

In other news from TMZ, the self-proclaimed celebrity gossip/entertainment news organization that originally broke the Paul Walker crash story, evidently the decision has already been made to close the high-end auto shop that he co-owned with the reported driver, Roger Rodas within the next couple of weeks. Rodas, by the way, was reported to have been Walker's financial adviser as well.

http://www.tmz.com/2013/12/19/paul-walk ... adid=hero2
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/03/us/walker ... ger-rodas/
http://www.investmentnews.com/article/2 ... /131209991
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Could the Paul Walker crash just exist to underscore the "fact" that: "yes, Virginia expensive cars do burn up on impact," as in the Michael Hastings' crash?

Edit, Spacing of a word.
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Sorry to change the subject but I just wanted to ask:

Is anyone else getting really fucking depressed by the number of people who pay attention to our research only to rush to blame "The Jews" and bring up that tired old Protocols of Zion stuff?

It's as though the mega corporations, corrupt intelligence groups and war profiteers don't exist for these people. It's all a Jewish Conspiracy just because Jews are operating much of the media aspect. They forget just how many things need to have been coordinated and informed prior to 9/11 going down besides the media or MOSAD: including NORAD, MoD, MI, British royals, Saudi royals, a significant chunk of wall street, loose players like Adnan Khashoggi, the many school, University and Church leaders, politicians, et cetera, ad nauseum.

Why can't people understand this isn't just some "evil Jewish scheme" but a large, nuanced, ongoing continuation of a gross mafia-style culture with thousands of years of experience in organizing/manipulating people?

I can only assume this is Jews or people obsessed with Jews who are focusing on this "Zionist" distraction. As if the powers that be will be content to change the fate of one country like Israel. These people are clearly interested in world control. And this insane greed is characteristic of every race.
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Hoi,

I understand if you prefer to avoid too much speculation about the international Jewish mafia on CF, and concentrate on media fakery per se. Same here.

On the other hand, the bucket loads of disinfo and stupidity which are currently mixed up with the internet debates on this topic might lead you to throw the baby out with the bath water and to underestimate the influence of certain Jewish lineages/factions who have consistently been building up massive control of information/media/education and international finance at least since the industrial revolution, and especially in the 20th century.

You complain of "that tired old Protocols of Zion stuff", but then, as it were, you replace it with a rather vague "gross mafia-style culture with thousands of years of experience in organizing/manipulating people". Just think of the historical/ethnic/racial/religious/ideological continuity required to produce and preserve such a pluri-millennial "mafia-style culture". It sounds more like plain historical materialism to me.

Also: http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f= ... s#p2387770
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Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one.
the bucket loads of disinfo and stupidity which are currently mixed up with the internet debates on this topic might lead you to throw the baby out with the bath water and to underestimate the influence of certain Jewish lineages/factions who have consistently been building up massive control of information/media/education and international finance at least since the industrial revolution, and especially in the 20th century.
Don't worry, I am not doing that. I am trying to warn that it's throwing the baby out with the bath water to have such clear criminal cases of lying as NASA and the War on Terror, and to say "the Jews are influencing this," and then throw out all the connections and names that have come up besides those within a historical continuity we have already been aware of.

I don't think anyone should do what you worry people might do. I don't think I am. My point is that such information about Jews is broad already, it's like taking a single (rather large) spectrum of the world population. Seeing as how there seems to be as much in-fighting in extremist Jewish culture as there is in extremist Christian culture or extremist Muslim culture or even Buddhists, we may as well recognize it's an example of humanity rather than an exception.
You complain of "that tired old Protocols of Zion stuff", but then, as it were, you replace it with a rather vague "gross mafia-style culture with thousands of years of experience in organizing/manipulating people". Just think of the historical/ethnic/racial/religious/ideological continuity required to produce and preserve such a pluri-millennial "mafia-style culture". It sounds more like plain historical materialism to me.
It is precisely my point to take away the specificity to emphasize what else is available, because the Protocols draws conspiritainment TV viewers' attention like a fly to a bug-zapper. We don't have to be drawn there in the same manner. We can come at it from new angles, with new knowledge. Add to what is known about the Zionist, pro-Israel Jewish mafia, as you say, but not then linger there waiting for more in one place. For me, the "Jesuit Conspiracy" discussion is almost as obnoxious in its hypnotic effect on people. But there also has been new knowledge about it (and new disinformation, of course) in this particularly weak time of the perps. Now, what I like about the Jesuit focus is that it places the Christian issue where it can be reached, which is in America's heartland, in every town and small church across the United States, where people can examine and research it instead of placing the culpability in a foreign devil. We should all throw off the local tentacles of this octopus, first. Otherwise our own communities will betray us because we haven't addressed that problem.

And yes, historical materialism! We should think of the continuity required for that, the continuity required for every phenomenon in human behavior to bust through to each successive generation. You name materialism, and I name "the Cartesian Nod", and I name, "stage magic" and I name "greed" and "the addiction to lying" and "Fox News zombies" and "secret societies".

Yes, secret, as in they don't have a way of being publicly known.

If you want to give all those a name under one phenomenon, that's great. That's fine. I think it is rather vague from our perspective, yet, because we haven't really addressed this. We are used to identifying nationalities, allegiances, clubs and so on. One thing we can learn from the mafia is that they don't necessarily have these things, they may particularly eschew these things because walking around with a bloody book about how to muscle taxes out of people is a little blatant.

I say it's a 'culture' because for me that is the broadest term I can think of for how societies are organized without referring to all of humanity as a whole. Because I don't think everyone is involved, I genuinely think there are some people completely unconnected to these phenomena. By these phenomena I refer to the War on Terror and the NASA and the satellite fairy tales. I think we cannot narrow it down much yet. It isn't the same as saying there isn't a multi-millennial phenomenon that people can learn to be wary of. My point is if we try to make the same old mistake Americans have been making for several decades now, which is to take this incredible knowledge we are exploring, the leads and connections it makes all over the world, in ourselves and in our societies, in our communities, even within our own corrupt families, and sweepingly blame an "other" this is idiocy.

One more point, and then surely I have ranted enough — surely, since Jews position themselves around the world as victims, that is part of their act and part of their power. Being aware of an International Jewish Conspiracy didn't stop 9/11. In America, Israel and the PNAC were being blamed from the start. Did nothing. You are only going to feed a number of their particular crowd tricks by focusing on the single villain and its present traditional role in each culture. Nobody is curious how the Norwegian mafia apparently operates to give us the "Norwegian Spiral" and "Oslo Terrorist" bullshit? What about the Dutch and their Vanderbilts? How about the Chinese clans now making this "Lucky Rabbit on the Moon" garbage?

We should empower our communities to learn new ways of examining the world from the perspective that its traps teach us, since it shoves the entire trick of racist gambits aside. We know how to do that already. We have that at our disposal. Going back to that mob tool is expected, but not of us. Please, not "here", in the September Clues research, which has been so refreshing, plainspoken and practical.

Also: viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1033&p=2387770&hilit=scholars#p2387770
Thanks for writing that. A marvelous post, thanks for sharing.
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