Is MUSIC used as a propaganda/mind-control tool?

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Many of Morrison's lyrics were already fully formed as poetry he had already written
before he even sang a note. Morrison recited 'Moonlight Drive' to Manzarek on Venice
Beach and 'The Doors' were formed right then & there.

Brian Jones wrote the early Stones tracks, while Keef was honing his 'open G' tuning -
DGDGBD. Trust me, even if you've never picked up a guitar in your whole life i could
still easy teach you 'Satisfaction' in 10 minutes flat !

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full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClgtoM2RwQY

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reel.deal wrote:Many of Morrison's lyrics were already fully formed as poetry he had already written
before he even sang a note. Morrison recited 'Moonlight Drive' to Manzarek on Venice
Beach and 'The Doors' were formed right then & there.

Brian Jones wrote the early Stones tracks, while Keef was honing his 'open G' tuning -
DGDGBD. Trust me, even if you've never picked up a guitar in your whole life i could
still easy teach you 'Satisfaction' in 10 minutes flat !

:o

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClgtoM2RwQY

:P
The Stones' first 'hit' was I Wanna Be Your Man, which was written by Lennon/McCartney.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6myXYN5u80

Note the commentary in this video: 'The Rolling Stones struck new horror into conservative English hearts. From the start, they were rebelious, cynical and rude.'

Give me a break! The Stones' were not 'rebelious, cynical and rude' from 'the start'. At 'the start' they really weren't much different from The Beatles in look etc, and you can see this from some of the laughable publicity shots of them in the early 60's. I've seen one quote from Richards where he says in their defence (paraphrasing) 'I would've worn anything in those days if I was paid enough.'

Mick and Keith sounded like well spoken 'mummies boys'. Jagger 'dropped out' of the London School of Economics (not common to go to University in those days, especially a fairly exclusive one such as LSE) while in his youth Keith had sung in a choir that once performed for Queen Elizabeth. Naturally for such rebellious youth, Jagger would hook up with Habsburg family member Marrianne Faithful on his quest to take on the establishment.

English TV in the late 50's young 'rebel' Jimmy Page before he got interested in The Loch Ness Monster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0tAOIQiz-8

'What would you like to do when you grow up Jimmy, play skiffle?'

'I'd like to go into Biological research and try and cure cancer.'

Music as shown on British Television, from the above to The Stones' in a few short years.

And are we to believe that a band such as the Stones, who didn't perform there own material and had such 'shocking manners' would get within toucing distance of BBC/ITV studios let alone get any airtime on English Television in the '60's, unless it wasn't something that was desired by the establishment? That the mainstream media couldn't simply not air The Stones?
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One character involved in the '60's Beatles-Stones scene that I've never seen mentioned in 'conspiracy' circles, is someone who went by the name of 'Magic Alex'. According to the official story 'Magic Alex' was a Greek exchange student who helped to finance his studies by doing occassional TV repair work. Somehow this penniless student ended up falling into the sphere of The Beatles and The Stones and the exclusive, hip, swinging-sixties scene. He apparently befriended John Lennon (some accounts have him being instrumental in the break-up of Lennon's first marraige) and also Brian Jones. He supposedly created lighting effects for many of The Stones live performances, and was allegedly a maverick yet genius inventor. He also supposedly worked on creating state of the art studio/recording equipment, though allegedly 'none of them worked very well'. In the authorised Paul McCartney book about this period someone is quoted as saying that he claimed he had inventions that sounded out of this world, but ultimately it could be seen they were simply well ahead of the time, as many of them have come to pass.

Interesting then that a quick search for this indiviual yields these results:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Alex ... consultant

'In the 1970s, the anti-terrorism industry offered bullet-proof vehicles, bugging devices and security hardware. Mardas set up various companies offering these products to royalty and VIPs, using the former King of Greece as his principal salesman.[21] Ex-King Constantine II of Greece (then exiled in Britain) provided contacts to a half a dozen royal families for Mardas, and had close contact with the deposed Shah of Iran, who had moved to Mexico. The Shah was one of the first customers for the customised bullet-proof cars that Mardas was offering, and was believed to have financially assisted Mardas’ companies.[21]'

He first came into The Stones and The Beatles' orbit after he befriended Cambridge graduate John Dunbar, at the time the husband of Marianne Faithful (Peter Asher, Paul McCartney's prospective brother in law was best man), and spent the honneymoon with LSD guru Alan Ginsberg.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dunbar_(artist)

Dunbar set up the Indica gallery with Barry Miles and 'Paul McCartney'. It probably should be noted that Roman Polanski was a regular customer (Polanski was good pals with some of The Stones in this period).

Ginsberg lived in a flat next door to The Indica (where John Lennon allegedly met Yoko Ono), though this dwelling must have occurred shortly after a stint in the Chelsea Hotel, where Ginsberg hung out with William Burroughs (who at the time was writing Naked Lunch) and Arthur C Clarke (who had moved into the Chelsea to write 2001: A Space Odyssey, a film that MGM interestingly marketed as 'The Ultimate Trip', nicely tieing the film in with the growing 'LSD culture' at that time.).

This is going off track, but it just occurred to me, Kubrick made 2001, a film marketed as 'The Ultimate Trip', and became a hit with LSD users because of its somewhat trippy 'stargate' sequence.

At the same time Jack Nicholson was working on the acid themed films The Trip and Head. Co-incidence?

Afer 2001 Kubrick spent some time working on a project about Napoleon, for which he wanted Nicholson to play the lead part - despite the fact that at the time Nicholson was a virtual unknown 'B' movie actor.

It might be nothing, but I view this now as a slightly odd connection that I find hard to just throw off.
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It is also interesting to note that Mick Jagger appeared on british TV when he was a teenager in 1959:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-IFg_BHeSA

This can be seen as a simple coincidence but could also mean family connections to the world of media and propaganda.
A year after this appearance, we are told that "Richards and Jagger resumed their friendship... after a chance encounter and discovered that they had both developed a love for rhythm and blues music" blah blah legend. :P
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full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5zxeLwUSdk

David Bowie on the tonight programme BBC with Cliff Michelmore 1964.

IMO-I think Record Companies were always on the look out for people with talent, Bowie being one of those starlets who they could compromise and exploit without the recipient knowing it. Peter Frampton, David Essex and Elton John being other examples.
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are any of the regulars on here familiar with Northern English Researcher Neil Sanders and his work on Mind Control? He has appeared on the Richard D Hall tv shows on 4 occasions including two interviews broadcasted this month. Below, are two shows from 1 year ago.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1mMWEE6v5E
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thespiritualone wrote:
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5zxeLwUSdk

David Bowie on the tonight programme BBC with Cliff Michelmore 1964.

IMO-I think Record Companies were always on the look out for people with talent, Bowie being one of those starlets who they could compromise and exploit without the recipient knowing it. Peter Frampton, David Essex and Elton John being other examples.
"And you've got none ya baldy barsteward" - should have been his reply!
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Jimi Hendrix died of a drug overdose, so his music was worthless.[citation needed] Indeed!

Thats funny, the Coroner ruled Jimi's death as Accidental, they couldnt figure out how he drowned in his living room. Two bottles of wine were forcibly poured down his neck by RecordIndustry/CIA thugs.

Jimi Hendrix Earth Blues

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In poisoning cases, the true cause of death is known to just a few people: those who administer the toxin - and those who perform the post-mortem and test for toxins in the corpse.

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We know that the music industry is essentially a concentrated conglomerate. This provides them with the means to propagandize if they so choose.

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YES ! ! !....it has,is,....and will be !
Pachelbel's Canon has been used more than selling weddings !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... wpPk8qk3uQ
Where have all the flower's gone ? Beats the shite out of me !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... y2SIIeqy34
Ah ! my bestess's's front man. Jonny Rotten !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtUH2YSF ... detailpage
Yes..the Pied Piper of Hamelin still lives !
..and this time...he's not fucking around !!!
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Music today is being utilised as religious sermons to the ancient "gods" except today the famous musicians/celebrities/royalty are playing the role of the ancient "gods" which people back in the past worshipped.
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If ever there was a music genre that took possession of the young mind. It is this :
Maiden - Beast !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrSiIqCp ... detailpage
Killed by Death - Motorhead...with the king of the mindfuck - LEMMY ( LEM )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... V6noHEd6XE
and....the Crue - Live Wire !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0_evhS_ ... detailpage
This style of music, in it's day, sold more than all other genre's combined !
It was 'King of the hill'. It spoke of power, lust, domination, love, history, the future ....etc...etc...
And, to me, this was no accident. It was a carefully planned takeover by TPTB of the young mind. And, it worked !
But.....that's history.
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illusion42 wrote:Music today is being utilised as religious sermons to the ancient "gods" except today the famous musicians/celebrities/royalty are playing the role of the ancient "gods" which people back in the past worshipped.
That seems casually general to me. Can you please explain what you mean?
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