Wow, 89% ?Selene wrote:
89 % of my Jewish family has been wiped out, according to the historical documents in Auschwitz and Sobibor.
Mathematically speaking, that means that you are part of the 11% of survivors, Selene! Good on you !
Wow, 89% ?Selene wrote:
89 % of my Jewish family has been wiped out, according to the historical documents in Auschwitz and Sobibor.
My great-grandparents and my grandpas sister (he had just one, no inflated 10 siblings or so...) all died while my grandfather survived. He was clearly traumatized by the war.hoi.polloi wrote:With all due and earnest respect, did you know these people that existed before they became statistics? I would like to go about asking questions of Jewish families in a respectful way and I mean no offense. However, this does seem to be an important part of the story. Gravestones. Books. Anything else that stands out to you as proof?
No, I am not in that figure. It is 89% of all family members of the jewish bloodline of my grandfather. Of those people, only 10.3 % survived...simonshack wrote:Wow, 89% ?Selene wrote:
89 % of my Jewish family has been wiped out, according to the historical documents in Auschwitz and Sobibor.
Mathematically speaking, that means that you are part of the 11% of survivors, Selene! Good on you !
Selene wrote:
My great-grandparents and my grandpas sister (he had just one, no inflated 10 siblings or so...) all died while my grandfather survived. He was clearly traumatized by the war.
It's hard to be the great-grandchild of a vicsim, wouldn't you agree?
Gravestones in extermination camps? Or back home? After the devastating effect of the war and the real horror which was only discovered by digging into archives many years later?
Wow - 10.3% ? Is that counting stray limbs and all?selene wrote: Of those people, only 10.3 % survived...
I'd be happy to talk with you anytime Simon, but unfortunately I do not have microphone and speakers available on my pc right now. In the mean time please accept my most sincere apology , I obviously misread/mis- understood the wording of your "any normal people with average intelligence......." statement as Seneca pointed out. It seems like I got my knickers in a knot for no good reason. I also apologize to everyone else who was subjected to this back and forth argument when it seems there was nothing contentious to bicker about.simonshack wrote:Well, it was clear for you - but it seems it wasn't clear for omaxsteve.Seneca wrote:
He probably presumed that you meant by "ANY group which he/she perceived to be behind the ENTIRE corrupt banking system" all the jews and not the JPM's. Which was clear for me.
I feel that omaxasteve is by far the most prejudiced on this topic. Maybe you can talk this out with each other on skype.
See, omaxsteve probably needs to learn how to read - and to properly process / interpret / assimilate what he reads. Education.
I will gladly talk this out over Skype. My skype username is simon.shack.
Omaxsteve? Wanna talk?
That's quite an encouraging statement of yours, omaxsteve. I look forward to speaking with you.omaxsteve wrote: I will answer your question concerning the law(s) disallowing the questioning of the Holocaust in more detail later when time permits, as I believe I have an interesting perspective to add due to my heritage. For now, I will say that I believe that anyone should have the right to openly question anything they want.
Why so late as 2004?Headstones at a Jewish cemetery in Ukraine and a Holocaust memorial monument in Hungary were destroyed in suspected anti-Semitic vandalism.
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Unidentified individuals smashed 19 headstones at the cemetery sometime between July 28 and August 1, according to police, who urged anyone with information on the incident to assist with their investigation.
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The monument, located at a central park on Dob Street, was placed there in 2004.
The United States continuing to do what it does best, I suppose.Nyiregyhaza had a Jewish population of 5,000 in 1944, when local fascists and Nazis began deporting the country’s Jews to the Auschwitz extermination camp. Deportations began in May and ran through the beginning of June. Survivors are estimated at 600 to 800, according to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.
Oh?In 2012, the Council of Europe adopted a non-binding resolution placing responsibility for the care of Jewish cemeteries on national governments. The resolution was based in part on a report that said Jewish cemeteries are “probably” more vulnerable because of the small size of the communities.
Where are the families to take care of such sites?In addition to dozens of cemeteries vandalized in recent years, the report also noted instances of cemeteries in Eastern Europe that have been turned into “residential areas, public gardens, leisure parks, army grounds and storage sites; some have been turned into lakes.”
This is the exact question that I asked myself when I realised that the accepted holocaust narrative is such a painfully obvious lie. There is no way that any PM could NOT know that it is a lie. Therefore, we have to ask ourselves whether there is, in fact, "multiple powers" in this world, jew or otherwise. My own personal feeling at this stage is that, yes, there probably are semi-competing factions but their energies would all seem to be directed toward the same goal: to enslave and exploit the, er, hoi polloi, which means that, in effect, there is only one power.hoi.polloi wrote: shouldn't we be asking ourselves how the multiple non-Jew powers in the world decided to give this sick European power to them? Are we to believe that the Power Maniacs of the world are all simply "fooled" by the Holo-hoax? It seems to me to be some sort of trade deal, and each PM group has its agreed-upon place in a push-pull for greater control.
I agree, and I think that "one power" could be determined through this thread's research because the Jewish rotten core has mistakenly been too brazen and arrogant with the handling of their piece, and because of its example to the other world nutcases in the present form of propaganda we uncover daily here, it may reveal similar "fault lines" in the mosaic of that "one [maniacal] power" (The OMP?). There is a chance, however optimistic, that this thread — combined with a few others about the "deal" between JPM, Jesuits, Masons, as-yet-unnamed groups/meetings/rituals connecting the fake cores of the world Religions and other groups — could unravel all of these nasty empires, and it may be a blessing to the world if it does — as long as we retain our poise and can demonstrate maturity to survive without their so-called "benefits" which will be a personal challenge to all of us to get along with one another.arc300 wrote:This is the exact question that I asked myself when I realised that the accepted holocaust narrative is such a painfully obvious lie. There is no way that any PM could NOT know that it is a lie. Therefore, we have to ask ourselves whether there is, in fact, "multiple powers" in this world, jew or otherwise. My own personal feeling at this stage is that, yes, there probably are semi-competing factions but their energies would all seem to be directed toward the same goal: to enslave and exploit the, er, hoi polloi, which means that, in effect, there is only one power.hoi.polloi wrote: shouldn't we be asking ourselves how the multiple non-Jew powers in the world decided to give this sick European power to them? Are we to believe that the Power Maniacs of the world are all simply "fooled" by the Holo-hoax? It seems to me to be some sort of trade deal, and each PM group has its agreed-upon place in a push-pull for greater control.
Heavens, how hard is it to find an entire section intitled "The Chosen People" (pp. 17-18) in a document consisting of 20 page-scans in coffee table book format?jumpy64 wrote:I feel challenged both by its length and its format [...] could you please point me more exactly to the section that deals with the positive, religious understanding of being a "chosen people"?
I am fully aware of the usual damning connections attributed to the author, and I am myself quite apprehensive about his championing of entheogens during part of his life, but sometimes it's wise to defer character judgments and allow yourself an open-minded first-hand impression of a writer's mind and style.jumpy64 wrote:I also found Huston Smith's biography a bit questionable...
* Initially all German concentration camps were described as death/extermination camps... however that is no longer the case (despite this you often here veterans say they "know the Holocaust happened" because they "liberated the camps"). Nowadays the camps in the West are accepted to have been concentration camps & it's only the camps in the East (all of which just so happened to end up behind the Iron Curtain) which are now claimed to have been the extermination camps.At the beginning of 2004, 1,092,000 Holocaust survivors were still living worldwide, about half of them in Israel. About 10 percent of survivors die each year, the report said.
I could put together a veeeery long list of Holocaust narrative smoke tests for you, but one that is somewhat analogous to the aluminium wing vs. reinforced steel column argument is the physical impossibility of conducting executions by gas in any of the facilities designed and/or built prior to 1945 by German-hired prison camp engineers.arc300 wrote:Any other suggestions?
It´s diplomatic on your part to spread things out like that, but the terminology confounds "tribal affiliation" with nationality. For example, Zbigniew Brzezinski was born and raised in Warsaw, but classifying him as a "PPM" misses the entire point of the discussion.simonshack wrote:LEXICON for newcomers to this forum: "APM"=American Power Maniacs - "AUSPM"= Australian Power Maniacs - "BPM"=British Power Maniacs - "CPM"= Canadian Power Maniacs - "DPM"= Danish Power Maniacs - "EPM"=European Power Maniacs - "FPM"= French Power Maniacs - "GPM" Greek Power Maniacs - "JPM"=Jewish Power Maniacs...