Amy Winehouse - "dead at 27!"

[reel.deal]

pshea38... It was as head scratching to me as your post on the Amy Winehouse thread. Are you in fact poking fun at the forum in some way?

cut some slack... theres plenty more fakery about jfk than the collaged autopsy photos, i'll prove you how fake the
Zapruder tape is in a couple of days once the photobucket gifs kick back in... i'm certain Kurt Cobain got murdered
by his psychobitch-wife hiring the hit, she tried to off him a month earlier on a 50 rohypnol OD a month earlier
in Rome, but, you know, you gotta speculate to accumulate... so slow down there tiger... easy...

i mean, i dont mind, we can go through them, 1x1, the '27 club' - and beyond. There is plenty of hearsay & ambiguity
in how a lot of these music greats met their end...

[Unleashed]

True enough. The Zapruder film was was pretended to be the only source of tape that day. By default of course, after everybody else had their cameras confiscated. And yes, the frames were heavily edited, and Zapruder was not just some guy there filming just like anybody else.

And too, there is the error in not knowing whether they needed to make the bullets match the gun and the original planting of the Mauser. Later they went with trying to match the gun to Oswald or rather A.J. Hidell, and swapping bullets. errrr.

So point well taken.

I didn't mention Kurt Cobain, and I do believe she hired a hit on him. But, she through her Dad is part of that seedy, occult underbelly. Therefore, you can't be too sure if it was business or personal, if you know what I mean.

As far as the 27 club, you set it up and I will see you there.

If I was a little hasty with my suspicions, then I'll gladly apologize. Even though I asked for forgiveness going in, just in case I was misreading the intent. Where I came from, it was de riguer for people to do that sort of thing though.

[nonhocapito]

Talking about fake and true artists, in case someone didn't notice, Dave McGowan recently just published a new chapter of his intriguing story of Laurel Canyon!

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr111.html

“This is going to break your heart, but much of the music you heard in the ‘60s and early ‘70s wasn’t recorded by the people you saw on the album covers. It was done by me and the musicians you see on these walls … Many of these kids didn’t have the chops and were little more than garage bands … At concerts, people hear with their eyes. Teens cut groups slack in concert, but not when they bought their records.”
Hal Blaine, longtime drummer for the Wrecking Crew, quoted in the Wall Street Journal on March 23, 2011

All roads on the Conspiracy Superhighway seem to lead to Laurel Canyon.

The search is still on for anyone of any prominence in the Laurel Canyon scene who didn’t have direct connections to the intelligence community.

[Brutal Metal]

The search is still on for anyone of any prominence in the Laurel Canyon scene who didn’t have direct connections to the intelligence community.

Laurel Canyon is the home of the Porn underbelly in America, Lots of shady things go on in that little community, a performer in the 80's even used that as her stage name!

[antipodean]

Laurel Canyon is the home of the Porn underbelly in America, Lots of shady things go on in that little community, a performer in the 80's even used that as her stage name!

hmmm interesting, I've often thought that maybe some of the 9/11 actors may have been recruited from the porn industry.
Maybe this is the connection. When you think about it, it's quite clever because this really is society's demographic, that would do anything for money.

One can hardly say "oh I know where I've seen her before, it was in a porn movie I was watching last week"

[fbenario]

The search is still on for anyone of any prominence in the Laurel Canyon scene who didn’t have direct connections to the intelligence community.

Joni Mitchell?

[nonhocapito]

The search is still on for anyone of any prominence in the Laurel Canyon scene who didn’t have direct connections to the intelligence community.

Joni Mitchell?

Her mother was a teacher, and her father an officer in the Royal Canadian Air Force. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joni_Mitchell#Early_life

[fbenario]

Neil Young's father was a journalist and sportswriter. Also a perp? Who knows. For some reason it's a little hard for me to see Neil Young as some kind of inserted, or controlled, puppet. His career seems too long, and too extraordinary, writing so many songs that will last forever.

One of my favorite of all rock anecdotes, possibly but not necessarily fabricated, is that one day when he had a bad cold/flu, he dragged himself over to Joni Mitchell's house to recuperate. He spent the afternoon alone in a bedroom, and supposedly in a single creative burst (unparalleled in music history) wrote Cowgirl In The Sand, Cinnamon Girl, and Down By The River.

Irrelevant to the whole perp question is the fact that his first group, Buffalo Springfield (with Stephen Stills), did one of my 5 favorite songs of all-time (at this moment in time).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeeDb8JaFwg

EDIT: No reason for me to think anyone else would care, but the other 4 in my Top 5 Best-Ever are Achilles Last Stand, Gimme Shelter, What's Going On, and White Man In Hammersmith Palais.

[Brutal Metal]

I prefer the music genre my screen name depicts! And not the mainstream bullshit, Acacia Strain,Carnifex,All Shall Perish, etc.

[Ajasin]

This still saddens me. Happy birthday Amy! You're in a safe drug free place now. =)

[brianv]

FredB, Joe Strummer's dad was a Diplomat, and poor Joe "died" from an "undiagnosed heart condition" whatever that means.

edit/ Damn I accidentally posted a reply without realising what thread I was in. Who was Amy Winehouse anyway? Some bint famous for doing nothing? Jimi Hendrix, died aged 27 and left behind an unparalelled canon of work. Have I missed something?

[fbenario]

FredB, Joe Strummer's dad was a Diplomat, and poor Joe "died" from an "undiagnosed heart condition" whatever that means.

Absolutely right, of course. Still, the interviews I heard with him from the last years before his death made him sound like a down-to-earth, loving man. I still have quite a bit of respect for him, even if he was somehow controlled. He has brought an enormous amount of pleasure to my life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F10tP5HIpaA

[nonhocapito]

Here's a posthumous video of Amy singing a duet with Tony Bennet. Apparently this video was shot in March 2011, a few months before her death.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OFMkCeP6ok

I cannot but sense fakery, as I look at this healthy, alert young woman singing. Is this really the same person? Where's the self-destructive, drug-abusing anorexic chick? Was that an act or is this an actress? Why the images go so often out of focus when she's in the picture?

[reel.deal]

Singer Amy Winehouse's father said that his daughter had the prescribed medication Librium in her system
when she died of a seizure, caused by alcohol detoxification, said media reports Friday.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/211635/ ... ribed-.htm
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Chlordiazepoxide (initially called methaminodiazepoxide) was the first benzodiazepine to be synthesised in the mid-1950s. Chlordiazepoxide was synthesised from work on a chemical dye, quinazolone-3-oxides. It was discovered by accident when in 1957 tests revealed that the compound had hypnotic, anxiolytic and muscle relaxant effects. Three years later chlordiazepoxide was marketed as a therapeutic benzodiazepine medication under the brand name Librium. Following chlordiazepoxide in 1963 diazepam hit the market under the brand name Valium followed by many further benzodiazepine compounds which were introduced over the subsequent years and decades.[4]

Chlordiazepoxide is indicated for the short term (2–4 weeks) treatment of anxiety which is severe and disabling or subjecting the person to unacceptable distress. It is also indicated as a treatment for the management of acute alcohol withdrawal syndrome.[8][edit]

Contraindications
Use of chlordiazepoxide should be avoided in individuals with the following conditions:

* Myasthenia gravis
* Acute intoxication with alcohol, narcotics, or other psychoactive substances
* Ataxia
* Severe hypoventilation
* Acute narrow-angle glaucoma
* Severe liver deficiencies (hepatitis and liver cirrhosis decrease elimination by a factor of 2)
* Severe sleep apnea

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlordiazepoxide

In medicine, hypoventilation (also known as respiratory depression) occurs when ventilation is inadequate[1] (hypo means "below") to perform needed gas exchange. By definition it causes an increased concentration of carbon dioxide (hypercapnia) and respiratory acidosis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoventilation

Sleep apnea (or sleep apnoea in Great Britain; English pronunciation: /æpˈniːə/) is a sleep disorder characterized by abnormal pauses in breathing or instances of abnormally low breathing, during sleep. Each pause in breathing, called an apnea, can last from a few seconds to minutes, and may occur 5 to 30 times or more an hour.[1] Similarly, each abnormally low breathing event is called a hypopnea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_apnea

It's well known that for people with epilepsy, the sedative muscle-relaxant diazapines that stop the clustering of seizures, can also inhibit breathing. Its a delicate balance. She no doubt had already experienced crazy heart palpitations & possibly even arythmia during her wild
times. So maybe seizure-type 'warnings' didnt register much. She was given a clean bill of health just the day before. The healthier looking
Amy Winehouse looks consistent with someone who has stopped taking street drugs & eats more and drinks a lot more alcohol. Her death
isnt so much about her librium/alcohol levels, much more about the long-term battering her heart & lungs took when she was a total
drugs fiend...

She was sober just over 48hrs before dying, last filmed dancing on stage at her Goddaughter's gig...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8suk3VUM0M

and i mean, you could train a doppelganger to do... that voice... ?!?

[nonhocapito]

She was sober just over 48hrs before dying, last filmed dancing at her Goddaughter's gig...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8suk3VUM0M

and i mean, you could train a doppelganger to do... that voice... ?!?

I don't get it. It seems that the pictures of an Amy barely alive, thin and high and disconnected from the world, don't belong with these videos of her last months (although... why she is on stage but without a microphone?). Besides, If she was sober 48hrs before dying, how could the shock from the lack of alcohol happen 48 hours later? If the death was caused by withdrawal, it means that at least at the time of the video with Bennet, in March, she was still using, whatever it was that she used and that impeded her from making a decent concert or a decent public apparition: but it certainly doesn't look that impeded in the video.
As to the voice, what if the singing voice came from another person all along? Or from the tricks of the producers? It is said the quality of her live performances was always much below the quality of her records...