brianv wrote:Terence, what would happen if you landed a similar aircraft on a river in your Flight Simulator? Have you tried?
What is the average landing speed of an airplane 180mph?? How would you bring it to a speed slow enough to stop it being ripped apart on impact? Would you tail-end it and snap the rear end off - resulting in immediate sinking or do you do a head first and kill everyone with a 180 - 0 dead stop? How do you get it to zero speed to do a soft belly landing? Just curious as to the dynamics of such an occurence!
Good questions Brian.
Two firsts in aviation history and both within a
Poc fada of eachother..what are the chances?
Flight 175 - the incredible transformation of a lumbering airliner into a fighter jet? From 24,000 feet to sea level in 4mins 40 secs and ending up 40 % over its' NEVER exceed speed' while still retaining the full control and balance to be able to fly into the WTC inch perfectly (first time airliner pilots too!)
to the American taxpayer - why did you allow hundreds of billions of your pretend money to be spent on the f22 fighter jet program when you could have just retro fitted some cheap and cheerful 767s with some bombs and toys for the boys! silly billies.
And then there is flight 1549.
Flight 1549 may be there to answer some of the questions posed by flight 175.
Yes! brilliant piloting skills exist day to day, just around the corner. The coolness of Sully kind of matches the ice man cometh fanaticism of the pilot terrorists.
Yes! A plane can impact something and be more or less 'intact' after. A sort of 'new and improved' kind of crash lol-omg-fakebook-vibe.
Big planes need at least 130-150 mph to stay up or they will stall and fall. There is one possible scenario for the possibility of this ditching.
If there was a huge storm in NY and a pilot could maneuver his craft to land into a very strong head wind (gale force) thus lowering his ground speed substantially and edging the plane down. This wasn't the case here.
The lovely curves of the airbus are all still intact after the impact as are all of it's constituent bits except for one engine. It looks like a group of boy scouts scraped it a little while they were washing it for bob a job.
Just a reminder. Anything hitting water at speed is f&*ked.
Mythbuster fire bullets into water.(these lads are not too good when it comes to major hoaxes unfort)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvSTuLIjRm8
Like the plane, the bullets enter the water at an angle of 20-30 degrees. It takes only 2-3 feet to retard the energy and stop them. The bullets are destroyed.
The starboard engine still attached to the wing of the plane seems ludicrous considering that the fan would have been still turning and ingesting water on impact adding to the sudden braking effects.
Looks good to me..perhaps hit by a robin but not a flock of geese.
Compare to the port engine..
which begs the question if the port engine took the brunt of the force of the impact how come the entire aircraft didnt pivot around this point and flip the aircraft over? Maybe taking a wing or two also?(where would the passengers stand then? o..there would be no survivors if there were no wings to stand on as you only last 4-5 mins in freezing water)