Seneca wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:46 pm
simonshack wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:56 pm
So no need to look any further: these sick people ARE the virus...
I also agree Simon.
And I think we should never underestimate the power of the human mind. Everybody knows the placebo effect. Most of you also know its reverse, the nocebo effect. For example, the fear of having a disease can itself cause disease.
For me that is a big part of the explanation of what is going on now.
So keep up the good vibes!
I was reading about the nocebo effect, when I found this very interesting article written by Ernil Hansen and Nina Zech from the University Medical Center Regensburg, Germany.
So, anyone during medical emergencies will behave as though hypnotized, and will be in a natural trance state. Some negative words, stress, fear (which everyone gets enough nowadays), and the nocebo effect is in full motion, which can cause real adverse physical effects on the patient. People that have an existing condition hear about the deadly virus and enter this hypnotic trance, and accept anything they are told. The result is full hospitals and dying patients. No virus is necessary.
"The Trance/Suggestion Model
The importance to recognize that patients before surgery behave as though hypnotized
,” an article in 1962 by gynecologist and hypnotherapist David Cheek draws focus to the “different” reactions of patients to everyday situations (Cheek, 1962). Signs of a natural trance state
can be recognized in patients during medical emergencies, i.e., situations that elicit stress and fear, where humans (as well as higher animals) enter a different state of consciousness. Among other reactions this state is characterized by heightened attention and an increased suggestibility
(Hansen et al., 2010).
Clearly, this model appreciates the important observation that patients often behave “differently” when confronted with a medical situation. They become highly susceptible to verbal and nonverbal input and tend to project any information they can grasp onto themselves. Much can be learned from hypnotherapy about this altered state of consciousness and about the nature and use of suggestions (Barber, 1978).
In contrast to placebo/nocebo research, the role of the (altered) state of the patient is emphasized in the trance/suggestion model. The effectiveness of a suggestion and the mental and physical reactions that it elicits are much stronger in the trance state than in everyday situations. Mentioning “lemon” leads to some increase in salivation; in hypnosis the suggestion of the image of a lemon can induce tremendous saliva production and secretion.
The (trance-) state-bound effect of a suggestion is much more pronounced than the trait-bound effect according to suggestibility scales. Especially in clinical situations the scores of Harvard Group Scale of Hypnotic Susceptibility (HGSHS) or Stanford Scale of Hypnotic Susceptibility (SSHS) lose the impact they typically cause in experimental or psychotherapeutic settings (Montgomery et al., 2011). Given a sufficiently severe emergency situation with stress and pain, every patient enters this natural trance state as an innate protective reaction, and any suggestion is likely to exert a strong mental and physical effect
. This opens the door to many adverse effects, but also presents an opportunity to modulate involuntary body functions (Cheek, 1962; Barber, 1978; Jacobs, 1991; Hansen et al., 2010)."