TransAsia 235 TAIPEI river plane crash

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RE Simon’s post on p. 4
simonshack wrote:*

"TAIPEI SURVIVORS" CIRCUS
To further highlight the unreality of this “survivor/rescue” pantomime:

How do you make able-bodied people standing in murky water look like “survivors” of a “plane crash” for TV?

Add some “blood” to their faces, that mustn’t be wiped off, of course!

And remind them to look at the camera:
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Note all age groups are represented; infant, adolescent, adult & old age. Coincidence?

This is winter, the river water very cold, yet neither of the women are shown as already (or at least immediately) wrapped in a blanket on shore — as they would be in reality. Why?

Here’s the original video (re above frame) of “Give the ol’ man a paddle, throw some life vests, forget the kid & leave” + the 4 “bloody-faced" "survivors" —
see Grey-cardi girl #1 get squished by the "rescue" dinghy @ 1:34 :rolleyes: :


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFL-uLwX8kw

(@ 1m2s: Although holding out the paddle for them to grab & help pull the dinghy closer might have been the purpose, the "rescuer" let it go anyway.)


An earlier clip of the “survivors” includes all 6 “bloody faces”, per this poorer quality cti video (referenced in my earlier post, p. 5):
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Just ‘lucky’ to have no fractured legs or arms?

“Survivors of Taiwan Crash Were All in Plane’s Rear Seats”
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Caption: “Rescue personnel help passengers as they wait to be transported to land from the wreckage of a TransAsia turboprop plane that crash-landed into the Keelung river outside Taipei on Feb. 4. Each of the 14 passengers who lived through the Feb. 4 crash had seats in or behind Row 11 of the single-aisle, 72-seat ATR72-600 aircraft, based on a seating chart and survivor list from TransAsia. Photographer: Sam Yeh/AFP via Getty Images”
More @ http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... r-of-plane

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Ref images:
Bloody-nose #1: http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/8 ... 778924.jpg
[larger https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress ... =940&h=705]
@ http://www.bbc.com/news/business-31125052

Bloody-nose #2 + “emergency personnel” member in blue striped shirt holding a fake Louis Vuitton "Palermo GM" bag in a fake “plane crash survivors” fauxto — how appropriate.
Original image http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1422417/ ... photos.jpg
@ http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/taiwan-plane-c ... ue-1486541 (article by David Sim)

#1, #2 & Bloody-faced boy: http://img.bulawayo24.com/articles/tran ... 13-web.jpg
@ http://harare24.com/index-id-News-zk-27196.html
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“Dashcams”, “drones” & “helmet cams” too

“Rescuers” diving inside “plane wreckage” (with composite exterior):

“‘Yong Zai Rescuers’ Qianrushuidi carried away victims grief!”


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtEPXNefeQw

Video Notes per Giggle Translate:
Published on Feb 5, 2015
“Keelung Rescue Association search and rescue teams, defying the cold water temperature, Qianrushuidi looking TransAsia Airways flight crashed personnel, search and rescue teams after entering the cabin, found the two victims in the water was stuck in the chair, the grief will be generally carried out of the cabin”
快點TV translated dialogue in answer to comment:
“They say :
there are two people under water.
they are trapped in the chair
release! release!
Let the chair first out”

Note fist on blue-sleeved "body":
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THE "TWIN" TRANSASIA PLANE CRASHES :huh: :huh:

It has only just come to my attention that another Transasia fatal planecrash ("Flight 222") reportedly took place six months and twelve days before the one discussed here ("Flight 235"). As it turns out, there are a number of extraordinary 'coincidental' similarities between the two:

"TRANSASIA FLIGHT 222" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransAsia_ ... Flight_222 (July 23, 2014)
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- Airline: TRANSASIA AIRWAYS
- Type of plane: ATR 72-500
- Crash location: Taiwan
- cause of crash: engine failure
- Number of occupants (including crew): 58
- Number of survivors: 15 (including 5 on the ground)
- Number of children on board: 4

"There were 54 passengers on board (four of whom were reported to be children)."

"TRANSASIA FLIGHT 235" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransAsia_ ... Flight_235 (February 4, 2015)
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- Airline: TRANSASIA AIRWAYS
- Type of plane: ATR 72-600
- Crash location: Taiwan
- cause of crash: engine failure
- Number of occupants (including crew): 58
- Number of survivors: 15
- Number of children on board: 4

"The passengers comprised 49 adults and four children."

Here's our 'ol pal and favorite psy-op anchorwitch-&-CFR-member' Diane Sawyer announcing the demise of "Flight 222" :


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNMGvmlpFBI

You've gotta love that priceless 'freudian blooper' by the reporter at 2:00 in the above ABC clip :
"...The good news is that investigators have that black box and they will know very soon whether or not this happened...uh...what happened in the last couple of seconds before that crash, Diane..."

So, in any case - can anyone please calculate the statistical odds of all the above-listed coincidences occuring in the real world? Thanks!

I will once again ask those who still think that these were real airplane crashes (and that there's nothing suspicious about them) to think again.
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You beat me to it, Simon! I had collected some notes on that one last week (as it was mentioned in the Insurance Journal I referenced on p. 3), but got sidelined.

“It was a dark and stormy night” on Penghu Island (conveniently) when Flight 222 crashed trying to land.

TransAsia Flight 222, destination Penghu Island crashed before landing . . . 7/23/2014 [ATR 72-500 turboprop — 74 seat]

TransAsia Flight 235, destination Kinmen Island crashed after takeoff . . . . . . 2/4/2015 [ATR 72-600 turboprop — 72 seat]

Without even including the already long list of “coincidences”, what would be the statistical odds of mirroring island destinations + flight number to date & aircraft type of the other? Fives↗ ↘sixes :blink:
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The usual sus-pics & videos in the following "news" articles:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... aiwan.html

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/nati ... ent-of.htm

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/24/world/asi ... ane-crash/
Footage on scene showed the plane had crashed in a residential area and broken into pieces. Witnesses told CNN affiliate ETTV that they saw homes on fire after the plane crashed around 7 p.m. The fallen plane destroyed or damaged 11 houses, EETV reported.
There were no casualties on the ground, said Taiwan's Transportation Minister Yeh Kuang-shih. Five residents were injured, but they were discharged from local hospitals
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I was looking for some local Taiwan TV crash video info so googled - BSTV Taiwan (mistakenly - I now realize it was a TVBS employee that captured the alleged dashcam video)

I came up with - http://www.bstv.com.tw/
located at Huaxun Street - HOAXING Street! :unsure: I thought to myself, knowingly!

Notice 2 paper airplanes in the website banner and this in the "news" -
[ 02/04-02/08 ] 2014 第二屆台北國際動漫節 which translates to
[02 / 04-02 / 08] "The second session of the 2014 Taipei International Animation Festival"

This company "Blue Sky" appears to be in advertising and marketing and probably had nothing to do with this event, but an interesting coincidence nonetheless. Back to the carrot farm.
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To follow up on my first response to Hoi’s post on p. 4, re blinking lights on real ATR 72-600 aircraft vs the Taipei “dashcam” video inconsistencies:
hoi.polloi wrote:Why is the fake plane blinking a single white flash that seems to appear out of nothing, while the usual videos of this plane show red and pink blinkers in that spot?
I found a few examples of real ATR 72-600s in similarly dull daylight conditions that did have white strobes on their undercarriage, and another with a reddish one.
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http://youtu.be/C7-xB12edzg | http://youtu.be/QyYva5i_IXo | http://youtu.be/PG5G6OzHF8s

Explaining Airplane External Lighting
Airplane Lighting Placement and Color

The most recognized aircraft lights are the aircraft navigation or position lights. These lights are located on the wingtip of the aircraft, and are red, green, and white - the navigation light on the left wing is red, while the navigation light on the right wing is green. The final navigation light is located on or near the tail, and is white. The color choice serves to aid pilots in determining the direction of travel of an aircraft, as well as assist in following aerial right-of-way rules.

The airplane anti-collision strobe lights are another easily recognizable light. These lights are flashing white, and are also generally located on the wing for smaller aircraft, or on the fuselage for larger aircraft. These lights are intended to draw attention to the aircraft, ensuring it is not overlooked at night or in poor visibility.

The rotating beacon is a very important light. This light is red, and on many commercial airliners, can be seen on the belly of the fuselage, as well as on the tail. This light is activated just prior to engine start, and will be left on the entire time the engines are running.

The airplane landing light may be one of the most powerful lights on the aircraft, especially on commercial airliners. This light may be seen for miles away when an aircraft is approaching the runway to land. This white light is generally encased in the nose, or in the wing root, and projects a concentrated beam like a flashlight forward.

Strobe or Anticollision Lights

The aircraft strobes help draw attention to the airplane. These lights will be used when on an active runway, and also when below 10,000 feet. Flashing strobe lights are an excellent method of making other air traffic aware of the airplane. They are turned off when flying through clouds, because the intense flashing effect can be reflected back into the cockpit and cabin by the cloud, causing a blinding effect. Above 10,000 feet, air traffic is equipped with transponders, which allow Air Traffic Control to see pertinent information such as speed and altitude. Because of this, the chances of an aerial collision is lessened, and the strobes can be safely deactivated
However, this still doesn't explain why that funky flash on the Taipei “plane” only appears in some of the "news" videos & not all — unless they removed a frame; but if so, why?

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After looking at real ATR 72-600 aircraft & playing with the interactive viewer on their site, I realized what was still bugging me about the Taipei Pixel Plane the angle of the wings is skewed!

All real ATR turboprops' wings are perpendicular to the fuselage.

Placing the body of the plane image on a blue horizontal grid line (nose to tail) the wings should be at right angles:
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Now that cannot be explained away by any “compression” nonsense; no video “artifacts” can change the actual configuration of a real airplane.

http://www.atraircraft.com/products_app ... n-2014.pdf
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Sorry Maat but I think your pink cross is a fairly accurate simplification of the angle of the wings and the body except the invisible "z" axis of the horizontal. The right end of your pink and blue lines are "closer" to viewer than left end. So the blue vertical line represents nothing, as far as I can tell, unless we can prove with certainty that the plane as seen from a different simulated angle of camera does not match the angle the plane appears in that video. The reason they aren't perpendicular is because the plane is supposed to be animated as nose being slightly closer to "camera" than tail.

The white flash being absent in one video and present in another is still the best argument about the light to me, plus — I believe — the genericness of the blink, which does not look like an especially strong or bright "strobe" as it is depicted in taxiing videos.
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hoi.polloi wrote:Sorry Maat but I think your pink cross is a fairly accurate simplification of the angle of the wings and the body except the invisible "z" axis of the horizontal. The right end of your pink and blue lines are "closer" to viewer than left end. So the blue vertical line represents nothing, as far as I can tell, unless we can prove with certainty that the plane as seen from a different simulated angle of camera does not match the angle the plane appears in that video. The reason they aren't perpendicular is because the plane is supposed to be animated as nose being slightly closer to "camera" than tail.
Well, I’ve never seen an elongated solid on the horizontal have perpendicular projections like wings bent by a change in perspective (and I’ve seen plenty of airplanes at every angle and flown a lot of gliders).

Changes in horizontal perspectives don’t skew the angle of fixed wings to an aircraft hull. That is, the nose or tail being closer or further away only optically changes the body length/width, so how would that cause 90° angled wings on a fuselage to appear bent backwards, especially when the underside is shown almost straight on — can you explain what you mean?

Sorry I don’t have the tools to demonstrate it digitally, but if you pivot an airplane-shaped object (like a ruler through a paper tube) with the cylinder on the horizontal, does the angle of the attached ruler “wings” to the tube change just because the cylinder is turned on the vertical axis (wingtip) more towards or away from you?
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Imagine the blue box rotating on its side (leftmost, middle and rightmost blue lines) represents the "window" which gives us our view of the plane.

From a straight-on perspective (leftmost window and plane), the plane's wings, though tilted, appear perpendicular as you predict.

But in fact the simulated camera is rendering the computer-animated "plane" from a slightly more forward angle, so the blue box with perspective (blue lines in the middle) is not the perspective the simulated camera is using.

If we saw the CGI plane from the front, just by changing our orientation circling around it during a single moment, Matrix style, we might be able to position the simulated camera right on the nose, in which case we would see the rightmost plane. The wings are still mathematically perpendicular to the fuselage, but the fuselage itself is titled, orientating ourselves from a simulated camera perspective parallel to the "ground" or "highway".
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hoi.polloi wrote:From a straight-on perspective (leftmost window and plane), the plane's wings, though tilted, appear perpendicular as you predict.

But in fact the simulated camera is rendering the computer-animated "plane" from a slightly more forward angle, so the blue box with perspective (blue lines in the middle) is not the perspective the simulated camera is using.

If we saw the CGI plane from the front, just by changing our orientation circling around it during a single moment, Matrix style, we might be able to position the simulated camera right on the nose, in which case we would see the rightmost plane. The wings are still mathematically perpendicular to the fuselage, but the fuselage itself is titled, orientating ourselves from a simulated camera perspective parallel to the "ground" or "highway".
Ok, so the apparent problem is in my comparing a real airplane with an animation’s failure to simulate all the changing angles accurately — especially when depicted at an almost 90° bank (across the road), with its fuselage viewed straight on — i.e. by continuing the wing tilts it just fell off the cliff into airplane uncanny valley! :wacko:

When one angle is off, it throws everything else out of whack (although that's the least of the problems with this mess). Interesting to note that I wasn't the first to find the angles peculiar; a Youtube comment on one of the videos of real ATRs was puzzled by it 2 weeks ago:
The Taiwan crash of this plane shows the wings tilted at a strange angle. It's like the right (bottom) wing is tilted forward, and the left wing is tilted backward. Is that an optical illusion? I could see maybe if the bottom wing is closer it might look like it's tilted but it seems pretty close to a 90 degree angle, and it's a severe tilt. I wonder if that is the problem that caused the crash.


If the right (upper) wing was supposed to be angled more towards the “camera” (closer), then it should have appeared slightly wider at the tip.
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Something like this:
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It’s not as noticeable on the approach, but when it’s shown on its side directly in front with back-tilted right wing (forward-tilted left) and perpendicular stabilizer, it just doesn’t work.
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I wondered from the start why Sky News squished it — were they trying to minimize the wacky angles?
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I played around in Paint.net just to see how the wings on the CGI plane (pink lines) would appear if set straight (5 frames):
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My husband also pointed out that the props are at the wrong angle too (pointing towards the “camera”).

Oh never mind, the top wing is slipping backwards anyway :lol:
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You may be onto something, Maat.

It reminds me of the 9/11 footage where the reason everything that would normally appear 3D (or remotely real) flattens out is because the simulation scene is ostensibly "taken" (read: rendered) as an extremely zoomed in close-up of something miles away.

They don't have such an excuse here, where the plane is meant to be a mere handful of yards from the camera. Something screwy is going on. And it's not "aerodynamic stuff". It seems there is a growing case for what we've known all along — this is the same old glitchy-as-fuck 9/11 software.
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hoi.polloi wrote:It seems there is a growing case for what we've known all along — this is the same old glitchy-as-fuck 9/11 software.
I dare say their latest Shanzhai (knock-off) Software + inept “artists” would probably produce the same “quality”. They counterfeit everything, after all — including iPhones & even entire companies!

e.g. http://www.cracked.com/article_19742_th ... iting.html

http://qz.com/220810/chinese-counterfei ... -released/ (promoted by a Taiwanese ex-pop star)


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Some background info on TransAsia Airways of Goldsun Development and Construction Co Ltd. controlled by the billionaire Lin family — Chairman Vincent Lin 40 & brother Frank Lin 35 as Vice Chairman.

Dec 2010: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... times-says
Dec. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Goldsun Development & Construction Co., controlled by Taiwan’s Lin family, and its unit TransAsia Airways Corp. denied a report they are bidding for American International Group Inc.’s Taiwanese life insurance unit.

“Neither Goldsun nor TransAsia made a bid for Nan Shan,” Lin Shing-chih, a spokesman for Goldsun, said today in a phone interview. The real estate developer holds a 48 percent stake in TransAsia.

The Commercial Times earlier today reported Primus Financial Holdings Ltd., Goldsun Development and TransAsia formed a group to bid for AIG’s Nan Shan Life Insurance Co., without saying where it got the information. The group offered $2.3 billion to $2.5 billion, according to the Taipei-based, Chinese-language daily.
Jan 2011: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... r-nan-shan
Taiwan Secom Co. said yesterday it plans to form a group with Goldsun Development & Construction Co. and Primus Financial Holdings Ltd. to bid for Nan Shan. Cathay Financial, Chinatrust Financial Holding Co., Fubon Financial and a group led by Ruentex Group submitted bids for Nan Shan on Dec. 3.
April 2012: Vincent Lin, TransAsia: https://www.tna.com.tw/upload/201204_OrientAviation.pdf
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Last November, TransAsia listed on the Taiwan Stock exchange and last month revealed it was to issue up to 50 million shares through private placement to international strategic investors to fund its international expansion.
Per the bio on bloomberg stocks/people Lottvision Ltd (LVS: Singapore Exchange):
Vincent Lin, age 40Former Non Executive Deputy Chairman, LottVision Limited

Ming Sheng Lin, (Vincent) has been the President of Azure International Incorporated, an American company engaged in real estate development, venture capital and the transfer of international technology since July 1997.

Mr. Lin has been the President of Goldsun Computer & Communication Co., Ltd., a provider of software and network services for large companies, including financial institutions, in China, since October 1999.

Mr. Lin served as a Special Advisor of China Unistone Acquisition Corp. He served as an American Law Consultant at the Formosa Transnational Law Offices in Taiwan from August 1998 to September 1999. In August 1998, he joined Reach & Range Incorporated, a provider of Internet and network performance services in Taiwan, as its Managing Director. He serves as Chairman of Taiwan Video System Co.,Ltd.

Mr. Lin has been the Deputy Chairman of the board of directors of MultiVision Systems & Networks Ltd., a company listed on the Stock Exchange of Singapore that builds and implements video surveillance products and solutions in China, since September 2002.

Mr. Lin also served as Non-executive Vice-Chairman of Armarda Group Ltd., since February 18, 2006. He served as the Deputy Chairman of LottVision Ltd. (formerly MultiVision Intelligent Surveillance Limited), since September 2002 and its Director from September 2, 2002 to February 15, 2005.

Mr. Lin has also been a director of eSkylink Telecommunications Co., Ltd., a provider of EDI/B2B solutions and services in Taiwan and the PRC since August 1998.

Mr. Lin served as a Non-executive Director of Armarda Group Ltd., from March 21, 2004 to September 11, 2008. His other company directorship was; Armarda Technology Services Limited, Azure International Limited., eSoon Communication Limited., GC&C Holdings Ltd., Goldsun Computer & Communications Co., Ltd., Peregrine Soleil Asset Holdings Ltd., Reach & Range Inc. Shenzhen GRG-Elite Technology Limited, Taiwan Secom Co., Ltd., Team Vision Management Limited and Tech Elite Holdings Limited. His past directorships are; Director of MultiVision Holdings Limited.

He holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Business Administration from Georgetown University and has a Juris Doctorate Degree from the University of California’s Hastings College of the Law. and an EMBA Degree from Beijing's Tsinghua University.
Aug 07, 2014: http://www.chinatopix.com/articles/5928 ... nk-lin.htm
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Frank Lin is said to be the younger brother of the chairman of the Goldsun Development and Construction Co Ltd. Vincent Lin and is a billionaire.

The 35-years old businessman is said to be a highly sought after bachelor who owns a net worth of NT$200 billion in assets. The man is also said to hold important posts in different companies including being the chairman of Babyboss City Ltd. He is also the vice president of Taiwan Secom Co., and the vice chairman of TransAsia Airways.

[Taiwanese-Japanese model-actress] Makiyo Kawashima, in response to the rumors, claimed that she and Frank Lin were both avid Japanese anime fans and that they were new friends.
Transasia Airways Corp (6702:Taiwan Stock Exchange)
Mr. Frank Lin serves as Vice President of Taiwan Secom Co., Ltd. Mr. Lin serves as the Chairman of Choppa Tech Co., Ltd. and Babyboss City Ltd., He has been the Vice Chairman of Transasia Airways Corporation since 2009. He serves as Director of Goldsun Development. Mr. Lin graduated from Middlesex University Business School, London, United Kingdom with a Master degree in Marketing Management.
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No mention of a "Frank Lin" among the "notables" at Middlesex University Business School.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mi ... ity_people

It appears they produce clowns mostly. Low end polytech. Certainly not for the "elite" scum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_University

Aha, if you scroll down to the Business# this
The university also runs a small business school in Quarry Bay, Hong Kong, offering two courses from the university in London.
:rolleyes:
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According to NODISINFO.com - everyone who thinks this TRANSASIA thing was a hoax - is an "Arch-Zionist/Tavistock" agent... :lol:

http://nodisinfo.com/taxi/#comment-159960

A hilarious comment (by "Stephan") on that silly NODISINFO article links to this video:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IANwb_qT1gg

I just couldn't resist commenting on that cute squirrel-plane-hijacking video:
ANYONE claiming that the above squirrel-stealing-airplane video is fake – in any way – is a stinking Zionist / Tavistock agent. It would of course be IMPOSSIBLE to fake such a video with today’s CGI technology. There is absolutely NO evidence that this video has been manipulated in ANY way. Most probably, that squirrel was an ISIS-trained asset who took Cessna flying lessons in Florida – much like Mohammed Atta and his evil Al-Qaeda cronies who then flew jumbo airliners into the WTC towers on 9/11. As the squirrel lands, we can see it jumping out of the plane and fleeing – so as to avoid interrogation – a CLEAR indication that the squirrel had a bad conscience as to its unlawful deed.
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