sharpstuff wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:24 am
This is all muddying the waters of a very serious situation. I don't care what is supposedly in the 'vaccine', the fact of injecting anything
into a body, whether it be an insect sting or needle, they must have their dangers to the susceptible whatever the intentions are.
It is more than legitimate to grope for some general principle, - but it takes a fairly large amount of naivety for someone to hope for its application ever in public life, even if we could find one and formulate it. At least if you want that something to deserve the name ‘principle.’ And that job cannot be expected to be done by any expert in the profession.
Would a slightly more general principle disregard the use of millions of drugs and the millions of treatments used? (The needle is already at work routinely by legions of occasions – insulin, transfusion, infusions… dubbed mostly as life-saving.)
Why would vaccines be an exception to the general and accepted ‘methodology’?
I don’t think present circus poses significantly new threats, except that it’s much bigger than the previous ones or it seems so at least.
The fact that people died shortly after vaccination does in no way mean that they died because of the shot. At least the allegations are just as difficult to substantiate as anything else in this area, especially if it happens in the media. Today, however, everything happens in the presence of the media, 'before the public'. And any hope that public life may be different from what it is, i.e. believing in ‘reforms’, or at least the possibility of it, is a perfectly childish thing at best.
So, if someone claims that vaccination (or any other aspect of the circus) is the cause of significant harm, - at the moment the current name for all that is ‘fear porn.’ I would think ten times about somehow actively participating in this truly ‘main stream’, let’s say, from the ‘alternative side'.
‘Health care’ or ‘health care system’ as such is in itself already a ‘sick’ thing, it unites as it were the ‘principle’ of ‘healing for money’ and the most effective confirmation possible of the conception of ‘tax-payers money,’ that is to say of democracy. In this state of affairs there should be no need for surprise if lies and deceptions of every kind prevail everywhere and are more than natural.
Flabbergasted wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:00 am
Anesthesia can indeed have severe and long-lasting adverse effects (rarely spoken of) in susceptible individuals, although anesthesiologists are getting very good at predicting and preventing this.
Good to hear that after a hundred years (or two or more I don’t know) of practice ‘they are getting very good’ in mastering their trade. In a near future they will certainly reach true perfection… In the meanwhile you are definitely expected to look forward to this desirable future with hope, passively or actively.
The ‘muddying the waters’ is indeed in the attitude with which almost all the ‘oppositional’ voices ‘approach’ the problem. For example the infantilism of which the caricatures (and catchwords and slogans) are the final cast. It is absolutely impossible anything of all these being spontaneous or genuine. As a rule joke is the remotest thing to humour.
One is always tempted to make corrections on them to make it fit a little bit more to the situation and on a somewhat more general level:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ni2nr7v525s8r ... s.png?dl=0
- to grimace a grimace.