Arizona Mass Shooting PSYOP

[fred]

I don't quite see it, but maybe they're going for a 1960's Kennedy theme here. If this were a movie script, after Gifford miraculously recovers she would join President Biden in lamenting the crazy lunatic who took out the commander in chief, right? That would certainly shock and awe some people and give them the policy window to pass their agenda.

They've done the "crazy" semi-random thing already with the DC sniper, Virginia Tech, Ft Hood, and now this Jared clown is being touted as the first "political" assassin in 40 years. Perhaps they're going to re-do MLK, RFK, JFK, etc?

I don't see the current "Tragedy in Tuscon" op as having enough of a psychological impact on the public to change the status quo. It's nowhere near where it needs to be to create permanent scars on the national psyche. Is this story even getting airtime in Europe? It's hard to believe anyone outside the USA would even care...

[warriorhun]

Dear All,

Please forgive me, but as a new, 7th comment page came up, I feel it important to carry over the most important two pictures.
Both are about the same event, was taken from nearly the same place (I assume maximum 2 meters), and at nearly the same time (I assume maximum 5 minutes. The accuracy of my estimate is, you will see, unimportant. It is only the details that count.
Compare the two photos. Background building, trees, shadows, foreground, people. Cars fucking about in a closed crime-scene, whichever way you assume the area is cordoned off. Especial attention to blue baseball-hat guy and his girlfriend in the middle on both pictures. People changing clothes ( I assume the older woman alone on the left on one picture is the same as the one in the middle of a group on the other.) I seriously miss one tree from the left from one of the pictures. The cars movement on the crime scene is outrageous. The pair in the middle did not move one bit, so the timeframe is tight.



Did I prove my point to you? All agreed the psyops is un-covered as media fakery? Is this evidence enough, right next to Little K9 Guy?
Prove me wrong! Explain why am I mistaken! I challenge you!
Or agree with my conclusion.
Thanky you very much, all people of this forum, this was two interesting days for me! Sure beats my data entry job...

[warriorhun]

Sorry, as per my previous post, the cross-dressing lady is on the right side os the picture, not on the left. Sorry.

[warriorhun]

Dear all,

on youtube, raw videos are available of the Giffords shooting aftermath.
I would like to bring to your noble attentions, that the videos were brought to you by AP (Associated Press), the provider of one of the most outrageously fake crime-scene picture in my previus post!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... rWvkCTQSI4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... rWvkCTQSI4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 1C-O976JlA

This is your field, folks, I will not mouth off about something I have not a clue about. I have never had video, or video recorder, and I am familiar only with computer games in IT.
I would not know the difference between a rendered CGI video and a cow's ass.
But even for me, some shadows on the videos were really weird.
So to paraphrase one great general:
"And good hunting on the mainland of Arizona!"

[repentantandy]

Conjecturing that the tragic, 9 year-old, future government-service tyke was a flesh-and-blood child sacrifice for this grim pysop (the REAL BLOOD LIBEL factor here, in other words) her doom in 2010 was sealed back when her parents allowed her to be photographed and included in this propaganda volume:

http://www.amazon.com/Faces-Hope-Babies ... 0757300979

(And if the poor child is really just a vicsim, the PTB are certainly putting on a more convincing show than they did back in 2001.)

But, for conjecture AND investigation's sake, let's see what we can find out about those NON-parental adults who escorted the child to the planned-assassination scene.

Oh, and BTW, the local (liberal) sheriff's initial insistence that the crazed gunman had an older, suit-and-tie-wearing accomplice persisted in the mainstream news coverage well into Sunday -- only to be dismissed by his forced recanting that the "accomplice" was just an innocent taxi driver who provided the gunman's transportation.

...and how many Tucson taxi drivers "dress for work," do you suppose?

[regex]

The images of this Sheriff and his dog symbolize the unflinching readiness of our police forces to protect the citizens from deranged criminals - as well as lawless people driving cars without numberplates.

I might be wrong but I think in some states they dont have numberplates on the front of the cars.
It is interesting though. Does anyone know how they handle that in Arizona?

Edit: found the answer.

These states only require one rear plate.

Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, West Virginia.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_states_r ... ense_plate

[nonhocapito]

Did I prove my point to you? All agreed the psyops is un-covered as media fakery? Is this evidence enough, right next to Little K9 Guy?
Prove me wrong! Explain why am I mistaken! I challenge you!
Or agree with my conclusion.
Thanky you very much, all people of this forum, this was two interesting days for me! Sure beats my data entry job...

warriorhun, if you kindly could edit the images to highlight details, it would be easier to see what you want us to see.



The second of these pictures is taken considerably more to the right. This might explain the change in background. Now, because virtual reality also tries to imitate perspective, this isn't a verdict either way.

As far as the characters and objects that appear in both pictures, I have added numbers and letters. I am not seeing any cross-dresser, but maybe you can point it out using these references.

[regex]

Well beside possible image fakery something more obvious is wrong with this scene/photograph.

a) why are these people surrounded by yellow tape? Seriously, what the use of it?

b) the baseball-cap-man is not within the tape circle. So again, why the yellow tape then?

c) There is some mass shooting going on. Shouldn't all these people be brought to a safe place? I mean, they are directly at the crime scene!

d) knowing from car accidents I can tell you that some people always need psychologic help immediately. Even if they are not a part of the accident. Sometimes they just need someone to talk so it doesnt necessarily have to be a psychologist. But at more brutal car accidents where people die, there will always come some psychologists. So where are they? I can only see a bunch of civilists left alone.

e) No wait, these people don't need psychologists, but a bottle of water! Everyone has a freaking bottle of water.

f) I have never been in such a situation but I guess that it is really stressing. So, why do all people look like they are waiting for something?

The whole scene is just absurd.

[nonhocapito]

The whole scene is just absurd.

It might or might not be "absurd", but your points are not at all conclusive or accurate.

a) Judging by the side the yellow tape is facing, the crowd is not (represented) inside the yellow tape area but outside. The man with the blue cap, the fire truck and the photographer are inside. The crowd is not "surrounded" either, since the yellow tape in the background is clearly further away and preventing access to another area.
b) yes he is (see a). We can assume he is not (representing) a civilian.
c) we don't know if it is still going on or for how long it has been over. there is no timestamp.
d) this isn't that much of an argument either. they could just be out of the picture, or they could be in civilian clothing, or they haven't arrived yet, etc etc.
e) no they don't, but even so, free bottles or water I think is a classic item distributed on such occasions to people forced (see f) to stand outside under the sun.
and as far as f) goes, yes it seems pretty ridiculous for them to be there waiting. But the scene suggest/represents that maybe they were told to wait because they are witnesses and have to be interrogated.

please note: my rebuttal doesn't meant to suggest that what we see in these pictures is reality (from other elements already discussed I derive the certainty that this whole operation is a psyop and the main characters in it are completely fake *), rather it serves to point out that the elements to prove the alleged absurdity are not as obvious as you suggest.

* the youtube channel of the sim-terrorist is so badly put together it seems to want to scream its fakery. The three videos are too sloppy and lazy, and the list of favorite books seems an "Illuminati-101" bibliography:

Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.

Plato, Hitler, Marx, Peter Pan and Huxley? Sure, why not.

[warriorhun]

Dear nonhocapito,

my friendly teacher, I am just one lesson away from being able to debunk fake pictures on septemberclues. Could you, please, tell me, in the style of your effective 3 sentence lessons, how can I make from two different sized, separate pictures, to result in one picture in which they are next to each other on the same size-just like you did in your post? And how can I add the little colored numbers and letters to better identify people and objects?

I will point out to you cross-dress lady by using your references. The rest of my arguments will come after I am able to create my own references, because I would reference a bit differently. Using yours, I would have to be a bit circumspect, like:

On first picture, cross-dresser lady stands in front of Firetruck D, in farmer jacket and farmer. Maybe it is called jeans in American English. On second picture, in front of Firetruck D, stands a group of three people talking (not referenced), the most left person in the group stands under your reference 3. The woman standing right of lady under 3, in white shirt, black jacket and black trousers. She is cross-dresser lady. The face is the same-the most I allow is they were generated in the same sim sequence.

[fred]

(And if the poor child is really just a vicsim, the PTB are certainly putting on a more convincing show than they did back in 2001.)

You give them far too much credit.

I would say that this "Congresswoman shot in the head but giving thumbs up" while the little vicsim splashes around in mud puddles in heaven is anything but convincing.

Maybe the collective IQ has fallen far enough since 2001 that people will believe anything. I wonder if Federal Judge "Let's" Roll is splashing around wherever imaginary Federal Judges go after they "retire"?

Personally I find the human sacrifice idea a little bit silly. They don't have enough dead children in Pakistan to meet the demand?

I believe Christina Green was about as real as Little Bo Peep.

But hey, maybe she's real and instead of just making a fake book called Faces of Hope with some Photoshop children (which you apparently find convincing), they decided it would be a great idea to identify some REAL babies born on 9/11 just so they can conduct a human sacrifice years later, because, um, they're kinky like that. Or maybe their God prefers babies who were featured in books called Faces of Hope to ordinary babies, right? When you need a human sacrifice, only a featured baby will do, I suppose. Reminds me to brush up on my Theosophy. I must have missed that one.

You might be right. Her "parents" sealed her fate when she got featured in that book. Who needs vicsims or psyops when you can just go to the library, borrow a book about babies born on 9/11, train them to take an interest in Government and Politics so that when your Congresswoman appears at the grocery store, you can be sure the 9 year old girl you need for your HUMAN SACRIFICE will show up and get killed by your hired gunman. I guess they had to make sure her parents would conceive about 9 months before 9/11/2001 so that the birth of the sacrifice could coincide with... hmm, this is getting too complicated.

Or you could just take the easy way out and just pretend that some little girl got killed, release some fake photos to the press, and write all the details of her fictional life so that they fit in with the theme you're trying to promote in the President's speech. That seems a little bit easier.

Were you the guy who voted Crazy Lone Gunman?

[nonhocapito]

Dear nonhocapito,

my friendly teacher, I am just one lesson away from being able to debunk fake pictures on septemberclues. Could you, please, tell me, in the style of your effective 3 sentence lessons, how can I make from two different sized, separate pictures, to result in one picture in which they are next to each other on the same size-just like you did in your post? And how can I add the little colored numbers and letters to better identify people and objects?

I hate to disappoint you warriorhun! but it is impossible to do this in three or ten sentences: and especially here on this forum which is not a technical forum for photoshop users. You certainly know that it takes a software like photoshop or similar (Paint.Net or Gimp are free) to edit a picture. You just have to learn how to use that software, there is no way around this: at least to do the two or three simplest things like cropping, adding text, resizing canvas etc.
i don't think it would help if i told you the name of the commands I used in a software you are not familiar with.

about the lady, yes the faces are vaguely similar but I am far from seeing a double. Among the parents of the 9/11 victims, individuals playing more than one role have been spotted more than once-- but consider that those are required to talk in public occasionally, so you gotta have actors there. In this case we have either virtual reality or a photo composition or, in the most unlikely case, real pictures of real people, tricked into believing they are witnessing a real event. It seems a stretch to hire actors to have them appear in two photos.

[simonshack]

These states only require one rear plate.
Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, West Virginia.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_states_r ... ense_plate

Thanks for clearing this up, Regex.



So I guess the rear number plates in Arizona are white - with ...uh...whitish lettering?
Or perhaps it is common practice to photoshop/erase number plates from pictures of a crime scene. Oh right, that must be it !

[brianv]

http://www.northwestfire.org/

You don't suppose that this could have been a stunt by a private company to extract more money from the public?

"at a Safeway supermarket in Casas Adobes, an unincorporated area north of Tucson, Arizona"

There's that "unincorporated" again! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unincorporated_area

It popped up before during the "Beverly Eckert" Circus act.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Tucson_shooting Looks like they had the article ready to roll!

Photograph of "Jarhead Lee Loner", a suspect charged in the 2011 Tucson shooting. The photo was made by staff of the Pima County Sheriff’s Forensic Unit following Loughner's arrest on January 8, 2011 [1], and was released to the public by the United States Marshals Service on January 10, 2011

Due for deletion by horseshit peddlers Wikipedia!



Your comments on this please - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gabri ... _scene.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/searchnetm ... otostream/

[warriorhun]

Dear nonhocapito,

I guees there always comes a time, when the teacher has to release the pupil into the big bad world, to learn the finer points of their trade by themselves. This moment arrived in our case, too. But for your great help, I owe you a couple of beers at my favourite pub, should you ever visit Budapest, Hungary.
I will start to check out the Photoshop program, but I can do it only on weekends mainly, so it will be a time till I learn it.
But I will not fuck about referencing the previous pictures, there is no need. Courtesy to the link provided by the last poster brianv, I have now two excellent photographs which clearly shows the media fakery.

Master, if I am not asking too much, if my claim of fakery of both pictures convinces you, would you please photoshop these posters on same size next to each other, so it will be more evident what we are talking about? You know what, let it not be just a couple of beers, it will be all the beer we wish to drink!

So, the evaluation of the pictures: both are the same scene, same place...kind of. There is Engine E33 Firetruck in the middle, it did not move, neither did the clearly identifyable parking cars.
So far so good. I detect some serious tree problems on both left and right of the pictures, but this is just extra.
CHECK OUT THE FUCKING SAFEWAY BUILDING IN THE BACKGROUND!!!
Special attention on the triangle-shaped roof, the columns of the front porch, that kind of shit!
And please, do not come up with angles: I do know, a bit different angle, a few degree difference is there. But please do not try to tell me that the tree is covering the triangle-shaped roof, because both pictures were taken over the same sea level, so it should protrude WAAY over the top of the tree, and there is not even a hint of it on the background.

Is it convincing enough of media fakery?