Wow, why don't you just invoke archives.com, or rootsweb, or better still the LDS world database?Sisterlover wrote:Sure, I can try... You know how sometimes you get a fake event so completely out of touch with reality that no other questions need to be asked. A great example is Hoi's Vicsim report? It pretty much puts to rest any doubt that the event was staged. The reasoning is complete.brianv wrote:Sisterlover wrote:Agreed, Brianv... I'm not entirely convinced of the role of mind control, but it could lend itself to fakery. In other words, the two are not mutually exclusive. When I was entirely smitten w/ McGowan's work, I emailed him and inquired of his knowledge of media fakery. I directed him to Hoi's Vicsim report, figuring he'd be all over it. I never did hear back from him, nor do I know if he cared to check it out.
I suppose it's like hypnotism. I've never been hypnotized, nor do I think I would easily fall under the spell of a hypnotist, but apparently there are those who do this work professionally. That's got to be considered mind control, yet never having experienced it first hand, I'm skeptical that it is real.
There is a history of anomalies suggesting the efficacy of mind control, from hypnotists to cult leaders to assassinations (if we are to believe them). I think its a reasonable explanation (until a better one comes along) for gaps in the logic of media fakery that we find ourselves facing from time to time.Military Grade Actors versus Under the Spell of a Magician. I think I'll stick with the former.I'm not entirely convinced of the role of mind control, but it could lend itself to fakery. In other words, the two are not mutually exclusive.
Could you expand on the blue text? Which gaps in logic?
Then, you sometimes get events/actors/circumstances that don't quite fit the bill as being entirely faked. An example might be Pozner's 'mom' Veronique. She may appear to be devoid of maternal grief, which in itself is suspect, but no one has proven beyond a doubt that she is not the mother of a dead child, have they? How do you explain the SSDI entry for the dead entity:
http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/ ... ssingtime=
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Noah S. Pozner
Born: 2006 Died: 2012
State issued: Connecticut
This is just one example, and perhaps not the best one. There are many. If their fakery were that obvious, this forum would have died out a long time ago, our work complete.
So, while it's convenient to paint the entire event as fake, this actually does fakery research a disservice. Of course, we all 'know' it's bogus, but proving it is another thing entirely, is it not?
A dedicated, wealthy researcher, might just buy a plane ticket, head on down to Newtown, interview these entities and nail them with the hard questions, or they could just say, "It's fake. I know it's fake and that's that." It's easy to be an armchair skeptic and using digital tools to reveal digital fakes is becoming more and more pointless, so where's the hard evidence?
Although you might 'know' something is fake, until your reasoning is complete, you're just grasping at straws.
The 'spell of a magician' and 'military grade acting' again are not mutually exclusive. So, are you saying that hypnotism is bogus? Are you suggesting that the military has not dabbled in mind control or even something as seemingly ridiculous as remote viewing? Looking forward to your response...
Anybody can submit data to those search engines, and I can guarantee it isn't going to affect search results down the line to have dead-end entries of 6 and 7 year olds fraudulently submitted.