SANDY HOOK Newtown,Ct School Shooting 14 dec 2012

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Re: Newtown, Connecticut School Shooting 14 dec. 2012

Unread post by Winston'sMyth » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:42 pm

The girls look especially pasted in, if not all of them. The ELA shows a rectangular Police badge.

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... to-1498326

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http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?i ... 57f3.38709

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Re: Newtown, Connecticut School Shooting 14 dec. 2012

Unread post by Flabbergasted » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:44 pm

The two men behind the girls are the size of the incredible hulk!

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Re: Newtown, Connecticut School Shooting 14 dec. 2012

Unread post by Flabbergasted » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:58 pm

My guess is we are looking at three layers:
1) the cemetery in the background
2) the Union Cemetery stone, grass and flag in the foreground
3) the two out-of-focus bushes on each side of the Union Cemetery stone and the overhanging branches

Maybe the shaded area in the middle was added to hide the transition.

Also, the pitch-black shaded side of the Union Cemetery stone does not match the shadows of the tombstones in the background.

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Re: Newtown, Connecticut School Shooting 14 dec. 2012

Unread post by resolution » Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:32 pm

Winston'sMyth wrote:The girls look especially pasted in, if not all of them. The ELA shows a rectangular Police badge.
The rectangular appearance of the badge is likely due to JPG processing. Nothing appears abnormal with this photo if you read the photoforensics tutorial http://fotoforensics.com/tutorial-ela.php.

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Re: Newtown, Connecticut School Shooting 14 dec. 2012

Unread post by simonshack » Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:38 pm

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Dear resolution,

Interesting 'twin' images of Giffords visiting Sandy Hoax...

IMAGE 1: (exif data says this one is by "JEFF FOSS, Fox CT. Date/Time: 2013:01:06 - 16:00:25)

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IMAGE 2: (exif data says this one is by "MICHELLE MC LOUGHLIN, Reuters. Date/Time: 2013:01:06 - 16:00:35)

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Once again, we are asked to believe that:
- Two photographers, standing feet apart, snapped a pic at the exact same instant in time (NOT 10secs apart as of exif data).
- Both these 'twin' images were chosen for publication (out of the many photos all pros habitually snap away in such occasions). The odds of such things occuring in real life are, rationally speaking, pretty astronomical.

Furthermore: yes, the perspectives suggest that the two photoreporters were standing relatively close to each other (JIM more to the right, MICHELLE more to the left) - but NOT close enough to show a virtually identical angle of Giffords face:
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On the strength of all the above considerations, I personally find this conclusion a lot more plausible:

What we have here, are two digitally-crafted images, slightly rotated in a less-than-perfect "3D" imaging software program (similar to what was used on 9/11 to simulate multiple shots of near-identical sceneries).

Besides, was Gabby Gifford's coat BROWN - or BLACK?
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(ps: please, oh please everyone: Stop using the ELA 'photo-forensic tool' in such systematic fashion!)

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Re: Newtown, Connecticut School Shooting 14 dec. 2012

Unread post by Unleashed » Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:46 pm

Apparently, the silver-haired lady with the fucsia scarf is faster than she looks.
How did she escape the other photographer's lens in a tenth of a second?

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Re: Newtown, Connecticut School Shooting 14 dec. 2012

Unread post by simonshack » Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:54 pm

resolution wrote: The rectangular appearance of the badge is likely due to JPG processing. Nothing appears abnormal with this photo if you read the photoforensics tutorial http://fotoforensics.com/tutorial-ela.php.
We really don't need ELA to tell us how wrong this image is - with those two King Kongs in the background. <_<

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Re: Newtown, Connecticut School Shooting 14 dec. 2012

Unread post by icarusinbound » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:26 pm

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In both pictures, the shadow cast by Agent RedTie upon Gifford doesn't appear to change in height by more than a tiny amount, yet there's a big difference in the spacing between these depicted individuals. And look at the difference in the ray-trace angle. Can this be explained by a perspective difference from 'two' shots, or not??

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Re: Newtown, Connecticut School Shooting 14 dec. 2012

Unread post by Haze » Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:01 pm

zested wrote:
lux wrote:Here is a large copy of the fake Soto on rock image (2000x1359):
http://bostonherald.com/sites/default/f ... gsc018.jpg
Notice how her hair is blowing in the wind but the strings on her scarf are leaning the opposite way o.O
/ Also the hair that comes from no where on her right boob
http://24.media.tumblr.com/b014c32caeef ... 1_1280.jpg
Maybe I'm paranoid but I can't see the end of her chain on this photo. It seems to me that it disappear ...

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Re: Newtown, Connecticut School Shooting 14 dec. 2012

Unread post by brianv » Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:55 pm

simonshack wrote:
resolution wrote: The rectangular appearance of the badge is likely due to JPG processing. Nothing appears abnormal with this photo if you read the photoforensics tutorial http://fotoforensics.com/tutorial-ela.php.
We really don't need ELA to tell us how wrong this image is - with those two King Kongs in the background. <_<

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Police State propaganda if ever!

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Re: Newtown, Connecticut School Shooting 14 dec. 2012

Unread post by simonshack » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:04 pm

icarusinbound wrote:Can this be explained by a perspective difference from 'two' shots, or not??
Dear Icarusinbound,

To be sure, perspective issues are among the most tricky and potentially deceptive aspects of photo analysis, but precisely because of this, I am glad that you bring them up. Let me try to illustrate my point regarding these Gifford images - but please understand that I remain cautious about all this, and that what follows is something I'll be happy to revise/retract if proven wrong - once I get the chance to test it empirically by myself (re-enacting it all with my own camera and a bunch of friends). Sorry to dwell over this - but I think it's a worthwhile effort towards understanding the possible, subtle flaws of the imaging software employed in these psyops.

So here goes: I have drawn two vector lines (A1 and B1) on the JEFF FOSS image - using that guy in the background as an 'eyesight/vantage point' reference:
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Here - on the MICHELLE MC LOUGHLIN image, I have drawn the two vector lines A2 and B2:
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Now, if you measure the two distances marked D1 and D2, you will see that D2 is actually TWICE as long as D1. That is a pretty significant perspective change, is it not?

So, does this almost imperceptible perspective change of Gabby Giffords' face make any sense?
Yes, she is the most centred object in both images - but is this really enough to explain all of this?
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But hey: once again, let me ask this fundamental question - lest it gets lost in our logical reasoning process, as so often happens when focusing on lesser details: HOW LIKELY is it that two professional photoreporters of FOX and REUTERS both snapped this very same instant in time (well ok, the lady in yellow dress actually blinks in one of the two shots) - and that BOTH of these photoreporters' unique shots were selected for publication? Is it not far more likely that these two shots were created digitally? Think about it - please.

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Re: Newtown, Connecticut School Shooting 14 dec. 2012

Unread post by Lazlo » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:12 am

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Someone on YouTube pointed out that the blonde woman between Giffords and her husband looks like the DC Madam. I am not good at photo recognition but I thought it might be worth a look.
Image I posted this pic of Palfrey to cut to the chase for a quick comparison but his photo is better. Cue up video to minute 2:05. This is not an endorsement of his occultic or religious interpretation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2t5OMjANP0

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Re: Newtown, Connecticut School Shooting 14 dec. 2012

Unread post by lux » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:54 am

Winston'sMyth wrote:The girls look especially pasted in, if not all of them.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... to-1498326
Yes indeed. The above photo is a composite.

Notice the woman in yellow sweater and yellow scarf above supposedly emerging from the church just in front of the police man.

Below is the same woman actually emerging from the church:

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As seen in this video at 0:23:

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maKW70lm5s8

You can also see in the above video that there are steps going down as soon as one steps out through the door. So, the two guys in front (in the composite photo above) are either incredibly tall or they are floating above the steps (that is, they were obviously pasted into the photo).

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Re: Newtown, Connecticut School Shooting 14 dec. 2012

Unread post by anonjedi2 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:49 am

The source for the following image is in the video at 1:40 on this page. I took a screengrab from it. If someone could find the actual image, I'm sure it would expose more details to pick apart.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=23494208

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1) Emilie (pronounced I'm A Lie) is again off to the right side, in the same strange way as the first Parker family photo. She looks out of place and pasted into the scenery.

2) Her head is too small in relation to those of her sisters. Since she is the oldest, it would stand to assume that her head should be the largest.

3) The transition/lighting/shadows between Robbie Parker's left arm and Emlie's right arm is unnatural and looks off.

I'm sure there's more but I'll let you guys pick it apart (I'm still new here). Anyone know where we can find a proper version of this photo?

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Re: Newtown, Connecticut School Shooting 14 dec. 2012

Unread post by zested » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:30 am

NOT TO MENTION THE NON EXISTENT GIRL IN GREEN IN THE VIDEO!!!! well none in the photo were in the video except the girl in yellow

never mind she is there but there is a weird cut in the scene right there that made me not notice her the first time
lux wrote:
Winston'sMyth wrote:The girls look especially pasted in, if not all of them.
Image
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... to-1498326
Yes indeed. The above photo is a composite.

Notice the woman in yellow sweater and yellow scarf above supposedly emerging from the church just in front of the police man.

Below is the same woman actually emerging from the church:

Image

As seen in this video at 0:23:

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maKW70lm5s8

You can also see in the above video that there are steps going down as soon as one steps out through the door. So, the two guys in front (in the composite photo above) are either incredibly tall or they are floating above the steps (that is, they were obviously pasted into the photo).

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