OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

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Even allowing for the lack of focus in the lower picture, and of course the bizarre change in layout, isn't there something weird going on to the right of the wall area as far as regards dimensions?

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B to B' is longer than A to A'

I also reckon that the top of the door-frame is slightly higher in the lower picture, relative to the one above (using the wall-mounted CCTV camera as a reference). Or is it perspective?? Doorway shadows are different...

Striplight tube is missing (or off) at this mid-location in both shots. No diffusers fitted? Verticals are distorted in the lower shot.
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icarusinbound wrote:Even allowing for the lack of focus in the lower picture, and of course the bizarre change in layout, isn't there something weird going on to the right of the wall area as far as regards dimensions?
Yes, dear Icarusinbound...

Did you also notice the relative head proportions?

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The Breivik saga is now looking more and more like an entirely digital affair. <_<
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This is reminiscent of the straw hat man video!

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Brian just posted before me.

It's like they are trying to be caught!
This is all so ridiculous.
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These are old cctv clips (from http://www.abcnyheter.no/nyheter/110916 ... tv-cameras , dated september 16th 2011):

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But these are new (from http://www.abcnyheter.no/nyheter/2012/0 ... t-tonn-tnt , dated april 24th 2012):

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The left, more interesting images are cropped unfortunately :mellow:
Note: @ 15:17:09 the person leaves the stretched van and @ 15:27:02 it explodes. So the clock on the timer device was set to -10 minutes apparently(?)
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Extremophile wrote:These are old cctv clips (from http://www.abcnyheter.no/nyheter/110916 ... tv-cameras , dated september 16th 2011):

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But these are new (from http://www.abcnyheter.no/nyheter/2012/0 ... t-tonn-tnt , dated april 24th 2012):

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The left, more interesting images are cropped unfortunately :mellow:
Note: @ 15:17:09 the person leaves the stretched van and @ 15:27:02 it explodes. So the clock on the timer device was set to -10 minutes apparently(?)
So, it wasn't an ANFO bomb . This is a Hollywoodesque Orange Explosion bomb! It has to look good on camera right? And another point, the camera remains unshaken by the 1000kg earthquake bomb? Another load of crap. The street where I stood tilted sideways all the surrounding buildings shook on their foundations, the lamposts swayed and electric cables spat and sparked. A CGI inserted orange explosion!
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Breivik theatre of absurd is getting more and more idiotic :)

http://wiadomosci.wp.pl/kat,1356,title, ... caid=1e549

"I didn't kill Polish immigrants' son Adrian Pacon because he looked rightist ( ish ? ) "

Do we see a message here ? Fascist western Europeans don't kill fascist looking eastern Europeans :) You have to be in favour of unrestricted immigration from all over the world not only EU/Europe now !!!! If not they will label you Breivik-type .

Let's check Pacon's appearance and maybe copycat it , might come in handy one day ...

Breiviks of all nations unite !!!
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brianv wrote:
Extremophile wrote:These are old cctv clips (from http://www.abcnyheter.no/nyheter/110916 ... tv-cameras , dated september 16th 2011):

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But these are new (from http://www.abcnyheter.no/nyheter/2012/0 ... t-tonn-tnt , dated april 24th 2012):

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The left, more interesting images are cropped unfortunately :mellow:
Note: @ 15:17:09 the person leaves the stretched van and @ 15:27:02 it explodes. So the clock on the timer device was set to -10 minutes apparently(?)
So, it wasn't an ANFO bomb . This is a Hollywoodesque Orange Explosion bomb! It has to look good on camera right? And another point, the camera remains unshaken by the 1000kg earthquake bomb? Another load of crap. The street where I stood tilted sideways all the surrounding buildings shook on their foundations, the lamposts swayed and electric cables spat and sparked. A CGI inserted orange explosion!


Is Oslo's centre that empty and deserted everyday in afternoon hours ? :)
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bostonterrierowner wrote:
brianv wrote:
Extremophile wrote:Image

The left, more interesting images are cropped unfortunately :mellow:
Note: @ 15:17:09 the person leaves the stretched van and @ 15:27:02 it explodes. So the clock on the timer device was set to -10 minutes apparently(?)
So, it wasn't an ANFO bomb . This is a Hollywoodesque Orange Explosion bomb! It has to look good on camera right? And another point, the camera remains unshaken by the 1000kg earthquake bomb? Another load of crap. The street where I stood tilted sideways all the surrounding buildings shook on their foundations, the lamposts swayed and electric cables spat and sparked. A CGI inserted orange explosion!


Is Oslo's centre that empty and deserted everyday in afternoon hours ? :)


Totally unbelievable images. The incredible sloppiness, arrogance and stupidity of the Oslo fakery job is once again confirmed.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

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Inspired by the brilliant work in this thread, I did some frame-by-frame analysis of ABBs first court appearance on February 6th 2012. There are some horrible errors, some seem purposefully induced, so much so that you could call them whistleblower-mistakes, but they might be more than that.

All the below images are frames from TV2 Denmarks broadcast on February 6th.

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Frameset "A"

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This is the "worst" video-artifact I've found so far. It is the 5th frame in the below series. Hint: Look at ABBs head.

And here are the successive frameset "A" from another video-player (the artifact begins at frame 3 and is really bad at frame 5):
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Frameset "B"

Then, towards the end of this video, some impossible frames appear (the clip has about 25 frames per second, so between each frame is approx. 1/25 of a second). This could be either a "whisleblower-mistake", or something more sinister (I'll expand on this after the images)

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Do you see the problem? Maybe not, but if you see the frames in succession, you will! (This is the 4th frame in the below series "B").

This is the frame two frames prior to the one above (the 2nd frame in the series):
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Do you see it now? Hint: Look at ABB's mouth!

And this is frame two frames after the first one (the 6th frame in the below sequence):
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And the whole sequence "B":
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For a brief moment towards the end of the broadcast, ABB's mouth changes to a perfectly straight line, that changes width every time theres a camera-flash! and this change happens within 1/25th of a second! It goes from unnaturally wide to very narrow and back again, all within less than 1/5 of a second. This is not possible.

Here is a frame of what his mouth is "supposed" to look like (Frame 12 of frameset "B"):
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If you examine the footage carefully, you will notice that ABB also changes facial expression briefly during these flashes. The alternative purpose of inducing this error (other than whisleblowing) could be to implant subliminal expressions during the brief moment of "flashes". The subliminal effect of these "flash-frame-poses" are unknown to me, but they seem to have been deliberately added and are very different from the expressions right before and right after the "camera-flash". Again, you really have to watch the frames in slow succession. Maybe someone could make a gif from frameset "B" at about 1 frame per second?

Edit: The full video is available at http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/article.php/id- ... eivik.html (it features 3 almost identical clips of ABB entering court, the first one is the longest and the only one to contain frameset "B").
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

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Good finds. Excellent debunking of this "proof" that Breviek is even a real person - which so far it appears he is not. Which tells us, of course, that he is not.

Why do "circles of confusion" appear in spots around the video as well? Seems deliberately terrible. In our age of media, none of these image problems are necessities of technological limitations. You can download better quality from bootleg torrents of videos shot on a camera pointing to a television.

The artificial errors are just that: military obscurants and excuses to reveal less information in disguise as compression and other expected glitches that appear rarely and hardly ever (if ever) in the same fashion as in these fake news videos, the ones at the heart of all these fake events.

Nevermind the idea these videos are "surrounding" something real or "hiding" something behind them - the point of the videos is to air the videos themselves - complete with subliminal messages, cultural "hints" and distortion of reality to induce an unreal schizo understanding of the facts of our world, not to mention the usual distraction and lies thrown in to their "usefulness" to our somewhat psychotic leaders.

Other hints of CGI - there are plenty in the imagery but there are so many I can point them out in these images:

Is the policeman escorting Mr. Evildoer real? Look at that blue right sleeve and the indentation in it. Above it. See how the "three creases" above the armpit of the cop in the adjacent image seem to be rendered as a conspicuously separate computation.

Observe the expressions of the lawyers. Are they real? Is the circle of confusion on the male face a mere "fact of videography"?

Look at how the bending of the left sleeves of the cops standing behind are consistently Y (above) and X (below) and variations thereof. Subliminally enforcing the idea that these are flesh-and-blood bodies with DNA - not to mention their chromosome appearance, they are also the chromosomes of MEN. Hmm. (This could be what they call a CGI "rig" which morphs.)

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Hey the animators have to entertain themselves some way, right?

Hilarious animation of "cop settling in place" used once by the right-hand cop, then by the left, then by the right again. It is the same movement. Used multiple times. It is a cheap animation trick: apply the animation to different character models at staggered intervals.

The entire scene is a cartoon.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

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hoi.polloi wrote:Other hints of CGI - there are plenty in the imagery but there are so many I can point them out in these images:

Is the policeman escorting Mr. Evildoer real? Look at that blue right sleeve and the indentation in it. Above it. See how the "three creases" above the armpit of the cop in the adjacent image seem to be rendered as a conspicuously separate computation.

Observe the expressions of the lawyers. Are they real? Is the circle of confusion on the male face a mere "fact of videography"?
Yes, I also believe they are just as fake as ABB.

The first frame of set "A" shows one of the officers "losing" a large portion of his head aswell:
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Many of the other characters in this stageplay look like caricatures! The public prosecutor Svein Holden and the male judge being the most comical. They look like something out of the Adams Family!

Inga Bejer Engh and Svein Holden:
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from http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -live.html

Svein Holden:
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from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15935957

His head is lightbulb-shaped! I have never seen anything like that in the real world.

Arne Lyng:
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from http://www.klartale.no/norge/skal-domme-breivik/

It's harder for me to pinpoint exactly whats problematic with this character, but he just looks wrong.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

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You are right to believe they are fake. This is not a video of a scene of humans. This is beyond acting - this is computer-assisted simulation of a human scene using motion capture, rigs and animated characters.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

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Gosh that's pretty awful. Part of the face is missing too! And has he nicked Rab.C Nesbitt's headgear?

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

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Dear Disinpho,

Nice work there. Just for comparison's sake, I am reposting a few of my own frames I saved/analyzed from "Breivik's February 6, 2012 courtroom entry". The first three are extracted by a version aired on "Nyhetskanalen 2":

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The following five frames are extracted from a version aired by the online "VG" channel:

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Now, what exactly is that 'chocolate finger' ? It certainly cannot be a shadow. Is it a random video artifact? Not likely - but how can we be certain that it is not a casual video artifact - given the piss-poor quality of these various video versions? Well, let's have a look at a couple of 'high-resolution' STILL PHOTOGRAPHS which also were released back then:
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I think this is an important clue which goes to prove/demonstrate that BOTH the video material and the photo material originates from the same computer software. the "chocolate finger" would be strange enough if it was only featured in a modern video camera take. But for such inexplicable "chocolate fingers" to be also featured in a still photograph (from a different angle) is simply beyond the realm of possibility.
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