illusion42 wrote:
In order to prove this Mars Curiosity mission a hoax we shouldn't really be dealing with the numbers and data because NASA would sure to have double checked it to perfection as any faulty data would have been spotted sooner or later by any Scientist/Engineer or anyone who still remembers some of their high school physics/maths.
Now does NASA seriously expect us to believe they successfully landed the Curiosity Rover after travelling some 100 million km with a communication delay of around 14 minutes, after their disastrous test on the Morpheus Rover on August 9th 2012?
Yes, Illusion42 - those are exactly my thoughts. I believe that what we need to highlight through our common efforts here, are the
macroscopic aberrations of NASA's bunk. As it is, I am not precisely advocating to focus on 'emotional' angles (as someone wrote) to wake up people about this farce. It is more a question of (as someone else wrote) "intutitive impossibilities" - and appealing to people's common sense, no matter how 'unscientific' this may sound to some. I can partly understand Rick55's wish to compute some slam-dunk, mathematically incontrovertible proof - which the academic/scientific community cannot refute. As I see it though, any 'scientist' or 'academic' incapable of intuitive thinking is a fraud - and a lost cause: such fools will probably dismiss clear-cut evidence anyway!...
Dear Rick55, as previously stated, I won't discourage you from your chosen path/methodology of exposing NASA's skullduggery. Again, I wish you luck with it - but I will have to reiterate my skepticism as to the wisdom & potential effectiveness of such a debunking strategy. You wrote:
"... there's only one universe and one set of rules. Faulty data is going to consitute "proof". I beg to differ a bit with that statement. Think of it as a game of cards: we are actually playing against an adversary who is not only dealing the cards - but who has also written and printed the card game's rules, ranks, suits and numbers (Martian atmosphere, gravity, temperatures, etc...). I find it most unlikely that NASA - who poses as a World Authority on matters scientific - would leave gaping (mathematical) holes for us to beat them at their own game. See, last time I checked, high school physics classes didn't contemplate Martian physics / parameters - but if they did, they'd originate from some NASA textbook, no? So how far would this (proving an impossible deceleration on Mars) take us? Of course - in the mind of Joe Public -
no one on this planet has gathered more 'authoritative, academic /scientific' Martian data than NASA.
Lastly, Rick - please let me kindly ask you not to throw around the 'cointelpro' word on this forum. Keep on track and doing what you do - and if that leads to solid results in terms of debunking NASA, we will all warmly welcome them. I can only see one problem with it: you may eventually reach the conclusion that NASA's deceleration data all adds up in a way or another... But, once again, good luck!
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