9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc

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Re: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc

Unread post by SacredCowSlayer » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:38 pm

simonshack wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:56 am
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Today I bumped into this interesting interview (at 1:22:40 into this movie by one Marc Levin) of "the man in charge of identifying the WTC remains":


full link: https://www.bitchute.com/video/tQNIXzuD9otC/
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Oh my . . . at roughly 1:23:55, he discussed an instance of an article of clothing (still smoking!) with flesh inside, and pieces of a belt with a beeper attached—that was somehow still working! Just prior to that, he described holding a femur bone, where one end was burnt, and the other end shredded.

Interestingly, he followed these examples up with the phrase “you can’t believe this used to be somebody.” My heavens—just when I nearly forgot how many layers of cheese were included in the 9/11 stories . . . it’s truly astounding.

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The Campbells are back.

Unread post by antipodean » Fri May 14, 2021 9:20 am

For those of you unfamiliar with the Campbells soap opera.
http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?p= ... 0#p2389876

http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?p= ... e#p2389864
Hoi has done a monster effort to get us back up and running (in a better and safer way than ever) after this deactivation drama - caused by Matt Campbell, a British "activist" for Architects & Engineers for Truth (who claims to have lost his brother Geoff on 9/11).

Matt Campbell's antics have caused us untold aggravation, extra man hours and expenses. And this, from someone who calls himself a "9/11 truthseeker". May everyone reach their own conclusions as to what this all means..
Looks as though Architects & Enginneers for Truth are still having their love in with the Campbells.
In the below video Richard Gage has reared his ugly head.
Explaining how with the help of A&E the Campbells are submitting an application to the UK Attorney General, for a new inquest into the death of their beloved Geoff. (Go to the 30 minute mark)

Also watch from 32 minutes as Gage tries to wriggle out of answering the simple excellent question.
"what would you expect to see when a large passenger plane hits a Concrete & Steel building"


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDtV2SNBkM8

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Re: The Campbells are back.

Unread post by simonshack » Sat May 15, 2021 5:47 pm

antipodean wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 9:20 am
Looks as though Architects & Enginneers for Truth are still having their love in with the Campbells.
In the below video Richard Gage has reared his ugly head.
Absolutely hilarious, dear Antipodean - so Richard Gage is still at it, thermite theory & all...(not to mention the gory human remains supposedly sent piecemeal to the U.K. by the N.Y. City morgue to the purported brother of "9/11 victim Geoff Campbell").

And yes, those "A&E truthers" actually succeeded in getting this forum (temporarily) shut down back in 2014. At the time, I remember thinking something like "duh - alright, so this is the END of it" (i.e. of Cluesforum's presence on the internets). Well, I'm glad to see that we're still alive & kicking today - although I keep wondering about how much longer Cluesforum will survive (given the escalating censorship-antics of the Nutwork - all over the social media spectrum). It really is somewhat miraculous - and even a bit of a head-scratcher - that they haven't definitively clamped down on us yet.

But here are my two cents about the reasons why the Nutwork prefers to 'keep us alive': they're probably thinking that, by doing so, we will gradually be suspected to be part of their vast & tentacular controlled-opposition network. In other words, they've been weighing up the "risks versus benefits" between shutting us down completely - or letting us survive (and have opted for the latter option). Thoughts, anyone?

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Re: The Campbells are back.

Unread post by fbenario » Sat May 15, 2021 11:48 pm

simonshack wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 5:47 pm
they've been weighing up the "risks versus benefits" between shutting us down completely - or letting us survive (and have opted for the latter option). Thoughts, anyone?
I've been pondering the same question for years. They may have decided that, as long as this forum and Simon's video aren't causing mass protests against the generally accepted 9/11 narrative, and we aren't otherwise moving the Overton Window, they aren't risking much likelihood of potential exposure from permitting this site to continue.

When I discovered September Clues in 2008, and the Vicsim Report a few months later, I was sure that Simon and Hoi would be public figures before too many years had passed. And then it never happened, because most people lack the courage both to test established narratives for themselves, and to be willing to risk their friendships and perceived place in polite society by speaking the truth, when doing so will anger the people around them.

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Re: The Campbells are back.

Unread post by thisisunreal » Sun May 16, 2021 4:06 am

fbenario wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 11:48 pm
simonshack wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 5:47 pm
they've been weighing up the "risks versus benefits" between shutting us down completely - or letting us survive (and have opted for the latter option). Thoughts, anyone?
I've been pondering the same question for years. They may have decided that, as long are this forum and Simon's video aren't causing mass protests against the generally accepted 9/11 narrative, and we aren't otherwise moving the Overton Window, they aren't risking much likelihood of potential exposure from permitting this site to continue.

When I discovered September Clues in 2008, and the Vicsim Report a few months later, I was sure that Simon and Hoi would be public figures before too many years had passed. And then it never happened, because most people lack the courage both to test established narratives for themselves, and to be willing to risk their friendships and perceived place in polite society by speaking the truth, when doing so will anger the people around them.
“When I discovered September Clues in 2008, and the Vicsim Report a few months later, I was sure that Simon and Hoi would be public figures before too many years had passed.”

Curious that I felt exactly the same. I can remember the excitement of stumbling across September Clues a few years ago after, ‘researching’ 911 for perhaps a couple of hundred hours! I felt that the wave must be about to break and even emailed Simon in excitement. I couldn’t understand then how the truth could exist and live in plain sight and yet remain unseen! It took me a long time to work out how the system works.

Now that I understand the way information works, the situation makes more sense. Specifically, Clues Forum remains alive (in my humble opinion) for the following reasons:

1.) Truth must reach the tipping point before society can be moved from their continued Netflix induced slumber to do anything at all. But, people’s ‘reaction’ these days are generally limited to voicing their angry feelings online, which is nothing! Nothing whatsoever. People remain inside and have been encouraged to do so due to the virus. Indeed, a neat link between protesting and virus spreading and guilt has been cemented during the covid 19 extended outdoor theatre. Activism today can be seen as comments such as the one I saw on Facebook today, "Free Palestine" (with an attached photo and meme of Noam Chomsky). Can there be any less effort needed to be an activist these days?

2.) For the notion of democracy and freedom of speech to remain somewhat intact, you cannot ban and block lock stock, but instead, a gentle process of whittling down of what is deemed undesirable by author and across platforms must take place. A slow almost imperceptible information battle plays out, which can be seen if you care to watch carefully. In the physical realm, perhaps you could compare this to the Israeli - Palestine issue! The end point is clear, was clear decades ago. The plan was in place, but of course, you cannot march the Palestinians out. No. Instead, the tide of opinion is first set against Palestinians, then Arabs (in general) and then you bring the media into line (gently) to narrate the ethnic cleansing as an even handed battle of two countries of similar ability. It must be slow to not ruffle too many feathers. Nobody notices that the battle is actually similar to a lion versus a toddler, where the lion has also brought its pride, just in case the toddler gets noisy.

4.) The findings of September Clues and the forum are not believable, comprehensible for the majority of the minority who visit because you are ripping apart a belief system. It wages war on a belief in the media, which is equally if not stronger than the convictions held by most religious folk in their respective holy books. So, when individuals do find September Clues, they find it a huge struggle to digest. Some accept and forget and others simply deny or amalgamate it with other antics of other forums.

5.) Clues Forum helps to discredit the notion of conspiracy because those who 'understand', know that ‘everything is fake’ (to express the current media situation in brutally simplistic terms). However, to the majority, such a revelation supports the idea of those who believe in conspiracy are indeed, clinically insane. In a sense, Clues Forum and September Clues helps the aligning of conspiracy and madness because the conclusions that are reached are simply too overwhelming. Too much content to digest! Because of our confirming ingroup bias, we forget just how enormous the distance is between those who have seen, read and understand September Clues to those who feel something(s) may be wrong! There is a gulf the depth of the mariana trench between us.

6.) The powers that be will for the moment remain ahead of the curve because of the internet itself. The internet is the greatest feedback system ever created where our feelings and thoughts are shared in real time and are infinitely analysable. We give ourselves away! For any surge in traffic or interest in Clues Forum, there will be a response to it, a hundred ways to limit the viewership, be it another Netflix drama or SNL performance from Elon or a big sale at the local department store; but sadly no gas to get there because of the latest creative writing about oil pipelines and naughty bedroom hackers etc.

7.) Discovering the truth (for a very limited number of people) creates and adds a tension into the system and perhaps a degree of additional suspicion and fear. This is positive from a control point of view and helps to pit individuals or groups against one another. I felt I could feel this from one of the Clues forums all time greats who seemed to burn himself out through annoyance and anger at those who weren't as up to speed as he.

8.) The internet and monetisation have made so much great content available that the viewer is totally spoilt for choice. This decreases the chances of people stumbling across Clues Forum. User generated content is so readily created because of the cash available, but also the encouraging and challenging feedback that is received.

9.) Monitor to stay ahead. Keeping Clues Forum alive allows those whose dark seedy jobs it is to keep their finger on the pulse and see, ‘just how close’ we are or have gotten. Keeping the site alive is useful for them.

Reality is a tough pill to swallow and for many, the created environment in which we / people live is ‘safer’ and more comforting. To boot, despite rapid advancements in technology and living standards, the majority of inhabitants of planet earth (over 5bn), pure economic survival comes first. Most people are struggling. Survival first, then family, then education of the self and then a modicum of waking up! But, not too much because whistle blowing puts you add odds with a system in which most people struggle to make even their daily bread!

Warmest wishes to all Clues Forum posters

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Re: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc

Unread post by antipodean » Mon May 17, 2021 8:57 am

In other words, they've been weighing up the "risks versus benefits" between shutting us down completely - or letting us survive (and have opted for the latter option). Thoughts, anyone?
I think by pulling Sept. Clues from youtube they've allowed this forum to continue.
Making it difficult for the casual researcher to fully get their head around some of the stuff posted on here.

A hat tilt to Ab over at Fakeologist for his work in making the Sept Clues videos available.
https://fakeologist.com/september-clues-tour-guide/

If editing restrictions were lifted on this forum, I would happily add the relevant Fakeotube Sept Clues video to any posts of mine, that feature a deleted youtube Sept. Clues video.

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