9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc

The notion of 'thousands of victims' was crucial to generate universal public outrage. However, having 3000 angry families breathing down their necks was never part of the perps' demented plan. Our ongoing analyses and investigations suggest that NO one died on 9/11.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread post by CTGal1011 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:29 pm

hoi.polloi wrote:And if there were just one, it would make their ridiculously false pictures more believable somehow?

I think the craving to constantly inflate the persona of a given vicsim is one of the perp's favorite tendencies of media consumers. You go looking long enough on the Internet, where searches are monitored, and eventually you'll inspire another History channel special about "imperfect victims of 9/11" or something. It won't make them any more real.
Excellent point. And it only encourages them to go down that path with the next non-event. The psychology of vicsimology...a whole new discipline of study.

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread post by JLapage » Mon May 13, 2013 12:57 pm

Charging admission fees to the National September 11 Memorial Museum is an outrage and a “slap in the face,” said one group that represents the families of victims.

“Patriotic people from all corners of the country go to teach their children something and show respect, and now they will be faced with this fee? It is outrageous. … [It’s] a slap in the face,” said Sally Regenhard, assistant chairwoman of the 9/11 Parents and Families of Firefighters and WTC Victims, in a CNN report....“This feeds the idea of New York City being money-hungry. It is taking advantage of tourists,” Ms. Regenhard said. “Making people pay to grieve is going to prevent people from paying their respects and learn about the victims.”

Mr. Guido told CNN that an exact price has not yet been set, but it will range from $20 to $25, and family members of 9/11 victims are exempt from all memorial-museum fees and charges.

Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... slap-face/
Maybe the real goal is twofold: Firstly it is intended to make it harder for sleuths to discover that there were no victims per say, and secondly, it is to continually make money out of the gullible public at large.

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread post by brianv » Mon May 13, 2013 1:09 pm

JLapage wrote:
Charging admission fees to the National September 11 Memorial Museum is an outrage and a “slap in the face,” said one group that represents the families of victims.

“Patriotic people from all corners of the country go to teach their children something and show respect, and now they will be faced with this fee? It is outrageous. … [It’s] a slap in the face,” said Sally Regenhard, assistant chairwoman of the 9/11 Parents and Families of Firefighters and WTC Victims, in a CNN report....“This feeds the idea of New York City being money-hungry. It is taking advantage of tourists,” Ms. Regenhard said. “Making people pay to grieve is going to prevent people from paying their respects and learn about the victims.”

Mr. Guido told CNN that an exact price has not yet been set, but it will range from $20 to $25, and family members of 9/11 victims are exempt from all memorial-museum fees and charges.

Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... slap-face/
Maybe the real goal is twofold: Firstly it is intended to make it harder for sleuths to discover that there were no victims per say, and secondly, it is to continually make money out of the gullible public at large.
Sally is the mother of Christian Regen Hard :rolleyes:

Sounds like it's going to be shut down! There are no "families", and who in their right mind would pay to get in? And yes, it will also deter any sleuthing.

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Unread post by simonshack » Mon May 13, 2013 2:16 pm

brianv wrote: Sally is the mother of Christian Regen Hard :rolleyes:
That's right, Brian.

JLaPage : scroll down to bottom of page linked below to meet Sally "HardRain" Regenhard - "the 9/11 activist mother":

http://www.septemberclues.info/deconstructing.htm

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Unread post by Lazlo » Wed May 15, 2013 6:16 am

brianv wrote:
JLapage wrote:
Charging admission fees to the National September 11 Memorial Museum is an outrage and a “slap in the face,” said one group that represents the families of victims.

“Patriotic people from all corners of the country go to teach their children something and show respect, and now they will be faced with this fee? It is outrageous. … [It’s] a slap in the face,” said Sally Regenhard, assistant chairwoman of the 9/11 Parents and Families of Firefighters and WTC Victims, in a CNN report....“This feeds the idea of New York City being money-hungry. It is taking advantage of tourists,” Ms. Regenhard said. “Making people pay to grieve is going to prevent people from paying their respects and learn about the victims.”

Mr. Guido told CNN that an exact price has not yet been set, but it will range from $20 to $25, and family members of 9/11 victims are exempt from all memorial-museum fees and charges.

Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... slap-face/
Maybe the real goal is twofold: Firstly it is intended to make it harder for sleuths to discover that there were no victims per say, and secondly, it is to continually make money out of the gullible public at large.
Sally is the mother of Christian Regen Hard :rolleyes:

Sounds like it's going to be shut down! There are no "families", and who in their right mind would pay to get in? And yes, it will also deter any sleuthing.
No Wouldn't You Be All Saving Your Money and Stuff?

Wouldn't you want to save your money so you could spend it in Times Square and see all the real important stuff at the intellectual center of the world. Like you could get a burger at the Hard Rock Cafe for fifteen dollars or whatever and maybe get to see Jimmie Hendrix's burnt up with lighter fluid guitar as if you were looking at the Shroud of Turin or other such bullshit.

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread post by brianv » Thu May 30, 2013 2:49 pm

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Anna DeBin Cantor Families.

Born Poland 1971

http://www.cantorfamilies.com/cantor/js ... sp?ID=3366

"Anna was blah blah blah..."

George J DeBin, Husband

Giggle->George J DeBin

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"George J. DeBin has been appointed as the new Chief Operating Officer (COO) at the American University of Beirut (AUB). "

http://www.aub.edu.lb/news/2013/Pages/coo.aspx

Giggle Contd:

"We found 1 person named George Debin in New York"

http://www.instant checkmate.com/people/new-york/george-debin/

George J Debin 43
Kings Park, NY
Farmingdale, NY
East Farmingdale, NY
Brooklyn, NY

That's Four Addresses.

Relatives
Anna Debin *
Donna Dempsey

Anna M. Debin
Aliases: Anna M Pietkiewicz

Current age 41

http://www.instant checkmate.com/resultsAPI/ALL/Debin/Anna

************

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Burial at the Memorial :lol: :lol:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... id=5840613

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread post by Vext Lynchpin » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:13 pm

Apologies to all if this has been brought up before, but has anyone considered that all these fundraising efforts and charities that inevitably crop up in the wake of every major psyop is not about making money at all, but about money-laundering?

I would be shocked if it turned out that all the money donated to these charities actually came from the public, especially when you see how much money ends up being raised in a short amount of time. I propose that only a fraction of the money that these charities and funds receive are from the public, with the majority being from the perps themselves.

There's a lot of dirty money floating out there. These charity scams seem like an ideal way for the perps to launder money.

(On a tangentially related note, I also wonder about a lot of so-called "self-made millionaires" that crop up from time to time. Did they really make all their money themselves, or are they merely frontmen for wealthy families whose true wealth is kept hidden? Maybe this is a discussion for another thread.)

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread post by sharing » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:08 am

by Vext Lynchpin on June 12th, 2013, 7:13 am

Apologies to all if this has been brought up before, but has anyone considered that all these fundraising efforts and charities that inevitably crop up in the wake of every major psyop is not about making money at all, but about money-laundering?

I would be shocked if it turned out that all the money donated to these charities actually came from the public, especially when you see how much money ends up being raised in a short amount of time. I propose that only a fraction of the money that these charities and funds receive are from the public, with the majority being from the perps themselves.

There's a lot of dirty money floating out there. These charity scams seem like an ideal way for the perps to launder money.
Yes, Vext Lynchpin, I had a similar thought of "money going in circles" that I posted in the "CHATBOX" http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f= ... s#p2383971

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Husband & father of victims of 9/11 dies of cancer

Unread post by DeeJay » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:51 pm

Loving husband, David McCourt, of wife Ruth and a father of a 4 yr-old daughter, who both perished on Flight 175 from Boston to LA (South Tower), died on July 14th from skin cancer. He was 71 and had remarried.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/ap/ap/obit ... ies/nYqKz/

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Unread post by brianv » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:14 pm

DeeJay wrote:Loving husband, David McCourt, of wife Ruth and a father of a 4 yr-old daughter, who both perished on Flight 175 from Boston to LA (South Tower), died on July 14th from skin cancer. He was 71 and had remarried.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/ap/ap/obit ... ies/nYqKz/
Lets see how long it takes his "death" to be registered in the SSDI. His supposed spouse and daughter still have to find their way in.

Is he being buried along side his loved ones at "The Memorial"? They don't have graves listed either.

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Unread post by anonjedi2 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:53 pm

I love the headline. "Conn. man who lost wife, daughter on 9/11 dies."

Con-man indeed. <_<

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread post by pov603 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:21 pm

The 9/11 Memorial...Meme-or-real indeed...

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread post by cprice81 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:21 pm

I checked the same database you used below, and used my deceased grandfather as an example. It says that he's still alive and has what would have been his current age, but he died in January 2007. Just FYI!


brianv wrote:Image

Anna DeBin Cantor Families.

Born Poland 1971

http://www.cantorfamilies.com/cantor/js ... sp?ID=3366

"Anna was blah blah blah..."

George J DeBin, Husband

Giggle->George J DeBin

Image

"George J. DeBin has been appointed as the new Chief Operating Officer (COO) at the American University of Beirut (AUB). "

http://www.aub.edu.lb/news/2013/Pages/coo.aspx

Giggle Contd:

"We found 1 person named George Debin in New York"

http://www.instantcheckmate.com/people/ ... rge-debin/

George J Debin 43
Kings Park, NY
Farmingdale, NY
East Farmingdale, NY
Brooklyn, NY

That's Four Addresses.

Relatives
Anna Debin *
Donna Dempsey

Anna M. Debin
Aliases: Anna M Pietkiewicz

Current age 41

http://www.instantcheckmate.com/results ... Debin/Anna

************

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Burial at the Memorial :lol: :lol:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... id=5840613

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Unread post by brianv » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:52 pm

Did you contact them to inform them of their error --- and their crap database?

And besides that's hardly an issue here.

Did you find your grandfather's grave?

PS: You wouldn't be trying to suggest that this was a real flesh and blood living woman are you? :rolleyes:

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Unread post by hoi.polloi » Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:52 am

Right. Data aggregators can't really be considered proof of jack squat. Except that somebody, somewhere, at some time, possibly wrote down a name, age and location. And these days, even the term "somebody" is suspect. Artificial intelligence programs are on the loose. Probably often military in nature.

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