The notion of 'thousands of victims' was crucial to generate universal public outrage. However, having 3000 angry families breathing down their necks was never part of the perps' demented plan. Our ongoing analyses and investigations suggest that NO one died on 9/11.
After seeing all of the family of vicsim interviews from Sandy Hook, I thought it would be worthwhile to revisit a few of the family interviews from 9/11. This is one I recalled, and I didn't find it posted on this board anywhere, so here it is. It's Mark Bingham's mom, Alice Hoglan.
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jupkxbPXyHE
The entire interview is completely unbelievable. At the end, she talks about Mark's support of John McCain and how she hopes these horrible events bring Americans together to fight these types of terrorists. (paraphrased) This interview was conducted one day after the "attacks". She makes Robbie Parker look professional.
The fact that so many 9/11 "victims" are not listed in the SSDI is troubling. Wouldn't the families need to have their lost loved ones in the database in order to collect any death benefits? See link below for information on benefits for surviving family members.
I think that the old arrangement, for Life Insurance or other death benifits ( but I do not know how or if this applies to 'social security' )...was that in the instance of no Body being found, but, of a circumstantially presumed death...the legal pronouncement of death, and, the benificiaies in their situation, both had to wait 7 years.
Conditions such as Ship Wreck of course, routinely occur in ways or in remote far from Land areas where not all or even no Bodies are ever found, but, the people lost at Sea are presumed to be deceased by the nature of the circumstances.
Of course, '9-11' wise, the old obligatory "7 Years" was up on September 1st, 2008...so...hmmmm...
blindedbyscience wrote:After seeing all of the family of vicsim interviews from Sandy Hook, I thought it would be worthwhile to revisit a few of the family interviews from 9/11. This is one I recalled, and I didn't find it posted on this board anywhere, so here it is. It's Mark Bingham's mom, Alice Hoglan.
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jupkxbPXyHE
The entire interview is completely unbelievable. At the end, she talks about Mark's support of John McCain and how she hopes these horrible events bring Americans together to fight these types of terrorists. (paraphrased) This interview was conducted one day after the "attacks". She makes Robbie Parker look professional.
Wow! I'd not seen the infamous mom of Mark Bingham before. She has that singsong cadence of a little kid telling an elaborate lie at times. She sure does grin for the mom of a dead guy.
I love the stone face guy with her. He brought to mind another American couple, likely one that wouldn't have put up with these 9/11 shenanigans for a gosh dang durn' moment.
[9-10-2016 ADMIN NOTE: Equinox seems to have sabotaged their own posts by deleting their photobucket account. Apologies to readers, we don't always catch saboteurs before they post something weird. Non-functional links are noted below. -HP]
If Christine Anne Olender is a 9/11 Hero, then how come the only existing photo of her is F*A*K*E?
Christine Olender, The Assistant GM of Windows On The World. BORN 4th of July 1962
Google Christine Anne Olender
And you will get results such as this movie here...
youtube video link xUnJPerxJoI
[This was possibly the highly questionable and icky "Windows on the World" mockumentary. -HP]
And articles all over the net praising her as
“The girl next door born on the 4th of July”
Christine A. Olender was a Yankee Doodle sweetheart, born on the Fourth of July. It was her best day. But when she grew up, it was her worst ‹ the only time when the petite, long-haired, effervescent former pompom girl, elected homecoming queen for Archbishop Weber High School, http://www.legacy.com/sept11/Story.aspx ... location=1
“A hero in looking after the people in the windows of the world restaurant on the morning of 9/11”
On the morning of September 11, 2001, Christine was hosting the Risk Waters Group for breakfast. At 8:46 am. American Flight 11 impacted the North Tower of the World Trade Center. Christine took immediate control of her area of responsibility after the plane hit. She organized all the breakfast guests and employees on the 106th floor, and made several calls to the Port Authority.
_ http://remember911tribute.blogspot.com. ... ender.html
A priceless new addition to the Brad Fetchet "family photo album" - courtesy of Let's Roll forum member "Fubar"... who - as far as I understand - submitted it as evidence that there's nothing wrong/phony with the Brad Fetchet imagery !
Hello everyone, hope all is fine with you after a long absence from these boards...
Brad Fetchet is in the news again as per the Daily Mail (not part of my breakfast ritual!):
I wonder if we didn't get a little too close for someone's comfort when we suggested that "Michael Moore" and "Tanya Head" aren't played or assisted by the same actor/actress/makeup artist.
Their similarity seems awfully close, almost designed to be close, and I don't think I have the medical problem when I mention that Moore's hands are genuinely creepy looking. I have seen normal hands worn from work - even old hands - and I have never seen non-diseased hands that look like Michael Moore's. So perhaps he is just a unique person and there's nothing wrong with that.
But after hanging around with sims in movies like Sicko and Farenheit 9/11, you wonder just how non-simulated someone can be to brush shoulders with such fake folk.
Just an off-the-cuff suggestion, and by no means is this meant to be scientific, but could it be the person who plays Michael Moore in public appearances and movies uses a fake nose, brow, goiter and glovey-hands? To me it's certainly as likely as the idea that he is some kind of disingenuous filmmaker.
I've seen him in Toronto when he was filming his tirade about how us Canadians don't lock our doors, and at the Toronto International Film Festival when I was busing at my brother's restaurant. Creep.
Unfortunately, he looked real to me. Real homeless. If it hadn't been the crowd, I wouldn't have even given a second look. But I guess you are going to draw a scene if you walk into Sen5es restaurant when people assume you are homeless and "live" at the Spadina subway station. I wish I had noticed his hands. Because he DOES play a really good part. But why wear the glasses when you have contacts in? Some days his eyes are blue, some days they are hazel/brown. I don't know why it bothers me, but it does. Also, his neck. Some times you see him and his neck is smooth. Other times, it is all wrinkled, like he is 15-20 years older. He is one creepy looking/acting guy. But Michigan is known as a blue-collar state. He plays that stereotype to a 'T'.
After all of his success, as he laments about the downfall of Detroit and how it needs new investment, he invests in....Traverse City. What a hypocrite.
Chris has got to be the most efficient, soft-mannered guy on earth. The way he gently leads this bureaucratic, orwellian female government employee to make a fool of herself - is just priceless!
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNLLMDWb3Ss
Hm, yes, it is a relatively simple question. Since the victim names are widely publicized knowledge, and the Social Security Death Index doesn't hold any obligation to print social security numbers, what is gained by simply not listing the names in the SSDI?
I guess they are hoping for most people to fall on the side of, "well some names are there, so the rest must be mysterious and secret" instead of our more pragmatic, "some names being there only highlights the incredible absence of the others!"
This is a post regarding the Paul Battaglia (William Rodriguez) vicsim / hoax / scam; I'm probably late to the party with this, but I can't find any significant thread for discussions about Rodriguez himself. Furthermore, I can't find anywhere that this has been attempted before and documented (if it has, then I offer my apologies). If any admin feels that this needs to be moved elsewhere, then feel free to do so.
Basically, I sent an email this week to William Rodriguez, asking him some questions about Battaglia and the 'coincidental' total similarities between the two. While I used a slight amount of sarcasm in my letter, I did approach from a fairly neutral perspective, even finishing with a "keep up the good work" so as not to scare him off too much, and to not indicate my position too much as a naysayer of his claims.
Here is the full text of my email to William:
Subject: A question regarding a 9/11 victim...
Hello, William.
I'm e-mailing you in regards to a particularly odd / interesting occurrence that has come to my attention, and was wondering if I could take a few minutes of your time to pose a few questions to you.
I have stumbled across a 9/11 victim that supposedly worked for Marsh & McLennan, and apparently died in the towers that day; his name is Paul Battaglia. The reason I find this occurrence slightly odd is that he looks just like you! At least, a slightly younger version of you! The resemblance is absolutely uncanny, he is your total spitting image, even down to hair line and dimples and mouth shape! Unbelievable, wouldn't you say? You didn't have a body double working at the WTC by any chance, did you?
But joking aside, I was wondering if you had ever met or knew Paul Battaglia before he died? And whether there is / was any relation between you two? Are you cousins or something? I was curious about this, mainly due to the amazing amount of apparent "coincidences" that happened on 9/11 (which of course, you know all too well about!). Any light you could shed on this would be great. I look forward to hearing from you.
Keep up the good work,
Regards,
Chris.
This morning, I received a rather short and succinct reply from him, the full text of which I am posting below:
Hello,
No, I did not knew about him or ever met him. I was 40 and he was 22. I see some resemblance on some photos , from the nose down but that is it, not spitting image.
Thanks.
WR
I am more than willing to forward the actual email to forum members here, just in case anyone here wants solid confirmation that this email exists and was sent from his address (I say from his address as, of course, I question whether the man himself actually drafted that reply but still...).
I am currently in the process of writing a response to his reply, providing a much more detailed comparison of the exact similarity of the facial features between him and "Paul"; I'm considering as well to attach some photos side by side with annotated features to attempt to bait him into a more detailed response.
However, any feedback from members here as to other questions, details or things I could include in this back and forth would be much appreciated. For example, any particularly damning evidence or information that I have missed out on, or decent pre-existing analysis of the images (as I'm sure there are many people here who have looked at and broken down these images in a lot more detail than I have).
Includes tear jerking interviews with vicsim family members.
The 9/11 Museum: Curating memories of terror and tragedy
April 21, 2013 4:00 PM
Lesley Stahl gets the first in-depth look at the National September 11 Memorial Museum currently under construction seven stories below ground at ground zero.
The_Thinker wrote:This is a post regarding the Paul Battaglia (William Rodriguez) vicsim / hoax / scam; I'm probably late to the party with this, but I can't find any significant thread for discussions about Rodriguez himself. Furthermore, I can't find anywhere that this has been attempted before and documented (if it has, then I offer my apologies). If any admin feels that this needs to be moved elsewhere, then feel free to do so. [...]
Quick question. Any of the vicsims have fake criminal records? I haven't been able to find anything. Wonder if any one else has had luck finding anything? Not that I expect it, but just crossing the t's and dotting the i's. You know, our boy Brad might be more believable if he had got drunk and picked up puking after a frat party, or had a misdemeanor pot possession charge.
Still find it amazing...not one group lawsuit from the "grievers".
And if there were just one, it would make their ridiculously false pictures more believable somehow?
I think the craving to constantly inflate the persona of a given vicsim is one of the perp's favorite tendencies of media consumers. You go looking long enough on the Internet, where searches are monitored, and eventually you'll inspire another History channel special about "imperfect victims of 9/11" or something. It won't make them any more real.
At the end, she talks about Mark's support of John McCain and how she hopes these horrible events bring Americans together to fight these types of terrorists. (paraphrased) This interview was conducted one day after the "attacks". She makes Robbie Parker look professional.
