The notion of 'thousands of victims' was crucial to generate universal public outrage. However, having 3000 angry families breathing down their necks was never part of the perps' demented plan. Our ongoing analyses and investigations suggest that NO one died on 9/11.
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Unread post by D.Duck »



What are we going to expect from the CNN Memorial in the future?

Since we now know that most of the victims in the Memorial are fake, do you think CNN is taking the site down? Or what do you think they are going to do?

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Unread post by hoi.polloi »

It looks like they are being stubborn.

Despite the fact that they have no argument against our findings, their only hope is to remain very very still and hope nobody notices their shit hanging out. :lol:

Edit 10-24-09:

Please check out this document:

Code: Select all

to understand the concept of how all the victims may have been completely faked in a computer!

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Unread post by talltx1 »

http://www.septemberclues.info/vicsims_ ... alyses.htm

So they are still "honoring" Liz at her Alma Mater and using the same worn out photo in their announcements.......no SSDI records of her death.....are we supposed to believe if she ever existed that her family didn't file for death benefits or was a death certif. not necessary??

No SSDI records of HERO Todd Beamer either and I see his foundation recently folded. His wife is rolling in real estate dough and has the home they paid off in 2001 now listed for 1.3MM. And.......somehow, Todd's cell phone made 18 calls after flight 93 "crashed"!

Your VICSIMS photo analysis is amazing SS & HP!!!!!
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Unread post by Melle Belle »

Nirvanix Provides Permanent Digital Archive for National September 11 Memorial & MuseumNirvanix Provides Permanent Digital Archive

The Museum is actively acquiring materials for its permanent collection from
the general public and those directly impacted by the attacks. The collection
includes audio recordings of personal experiences of the attacks of September
11, 2001 left by visitors at the 9/11 Memorial Preview Site located next to
the World Trade Center. The Museum is actively collecting photographs, audio,
video and other 9/11 related material through a number of outreach
initiatives, including a "Call to Remember." This program is designed for 9/11
victims' family and friends to leave voice mail messages with remembrances
about their loved ones. In addition, the Museum has collected thousands of
photos submitted by the public through an online initiative, "Make History,"
as well as hundreds of hours of video. All of this material will be kept as a
permanent digital archive of content that will be an evolving historical
record of the day's events. Nirvanix is providing its SDN to help preserve
the memories for future generations, by acting as an offline archive for this
important time in world history.
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Unread post by simonshack »


"THE 19 nine-eleven HIJACKERS" NAMES :

Seems like the naughty hijackers' names were created with much the same algorithms as most 'victims' listed in the 9/11 memorials. Remember: They were all reportedly identified on September 12, 2001 !!! :lol:

Meanwhile, Attorney General John Ashcroft announced that the FBI and Justice Department investigators believe they have identified the people behind the attacks and that some of the hijackers who commandeered the planes were trained as pilots in the U.S.

The White House and Air Force One were also terrorist targets, Ashcroft said. "The four planes were hijacked by between three and six individuals per plane, using knives and box cutters, and in some cases making bomb threats,"

Anyhow...I just met today a person who still believes - and insisted - that the 19 arab hijackers were real.
It was a bit of a shock - but I soon got over it and thought : Well, how much have we looked into those 19 purported identities? So, with hoi.polloi's Vicsim Report in mind, I decided to have a look at their reported names. This is what I found on Wikipedia (the Great Archive of History which many people love to trust) :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_ ... 11_attacks

Hijackers: Mohamed Atta al-Sayed (Egyptian), Waleed al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Wail al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Abdulaziz al-Omari (Saudi Arabian), Satam al-Suqami (Saudi Arabian).

Hijackers: Marwan al-Shehhi (from the United Arab Emirates), Fayez Banihammad (from the United Arab Emirates), Mohand al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Hamza al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian).

Hijackers: Hani Hanjour (Saudi Arabian), Khalid al-Mihdhar (Saudi Arabian), Majed Moqed (Saudi Arabian), Nawaf al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian), Salem al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian).

Hijackers: Ziad Jarrah (Lebanese), Ahmed al-Haznawi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Nami (Saudi Arabian), Saeed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian).

Now, here's the way I have quite 'fancifully' grouped those names (or put them in 'order') - but of course I'm just an awfully mean, kooky and conspiratorial tinfoil-hat kind of person ;) Anyhow, here goes :

Marwan al-Shehhi
Mohand al-Shehri
Waleed al-Shehri
Wail al-Shehri

Ahmed al-Ghamdi
Hamza al-Ghamdi
Saeed al-Ghamdi

Nawaf al-Hazmi
Salem al-Hazmi

Ahmed al-Nami
Ahmed al-Haznawi
Abdulaziz al-Omari

Mohamed Atta al-Sayed
Satam al-Suqami

Hani Hanjour
Majed Moqed

Fayez Banihammad
Ziad Jarrah
Khalid al-Mihdhar

If you have read hoi.polloi's Vicsim Report
you'll know what I'm talking about...

PS: A quick google search - et voilà - here are their pictures :
http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/wp-cont ... kers19.jpg
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simonshack 4 Oct 21 2009, 08:33 AM wrote: PS: A quick google search - et voil? - here are their pictures :
http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/wp-cont ... kers19.jpg
Yikes! The bottom two on the left look kinda demonic, don't they! :lol:
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Unread post by hoi.polloi »

Simon! That is a truly hilarious group.

I also noticed in the "random" section that we seem to have a collision in mid-air.

"Khalid al-Mihdhar"
(Collide ... mid-air)

I wonder if Khalid crawled from the twisted burning wreckage of 9/11 and survived to arrange the chopper-Cessna incident over the Hudson.

P.S. D.Duck, I changed the title to "9/11 Memorial Scams" and moved it into this 9/11 area. I hope you don't mind, just change it back if you don't like ...
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Unread post by SimonJCP »


..And this I call a:


(Nice hand!)
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Unread post by simonshack »

9/11 was - as most hopefully will know by now - just another (massive) psyop to get the public to support war and pillage. It is essential to understand what CNN and most likely all major news media corporations are all about. Here's some (pre-2001) insight into just why CNN would actively participate in the 9/11 hoax and create an overwhelmingly fake list of 9/11 victims :

CNN - The CIA's News Network?
by Dave McGowan
May 2000

The phrase "production of news" is notably ambiguous when used in this context. It could easily be defined as the manufacture of news. Manufacturing news is, in fact, exactly what psychological warfare specialists do.

A must read.

Unread post by stevenwarran »

Well, my first attempt at distinguishing a Vicsim from a mock death was a bust on my blog, because too much nonsensical narrative detail sidetracked us with gales of laughter.

On Edit: Fixed Blog Link: http://stevenwarran.blogspot.com/2009/1 ... ne_15.html
Jeannieann Maffeo, Ruth Magdaline (Clifford) McCourt, Paige Farley-Hackel, Ronald Hans Clifford (and little four-year-old Juliana Valentine McCourt)[/URL] Thanks Godzilla!

But what we could do, if anyone was feeling very Miranda-Priestley-Googelishish, is begin to cross reference everybody mentioned in the record who is connected to the principles:

Mr. David McCourt, widower, of New London, Conn.
Paula Clifford Scott , who is Ruth McCourt's mother
Spencer Scott, of Boston, McCourt's younger brother [step-brother?]
"The third of six children and the only daughter of a paper merchant and his wife in Cork, Ireland, Ruth Clifford had immigrated to the United States at age 17." The mother also immigrates and starts a new family?
http://www.courant.com/hc-htmlstory-ctv ... .htmlstory
John Clifford of Cork Ireland, Ron and Ruth's brother
Ronald Clifford of Glen Ridge, NJ, brother of Ruth and John
Bridget Clifford wife of Ronald of Glen Ridge, NJ

Gail Schwenker-Mayer , Chairwoman of McCourt Memorial Garden
Jeanne Shelburn, Landscape Architect of McCourt Memorial Garden
of http://web.archive.org/web/200601170409 ... hotos.html [email protected]
JoAnn Freiberg, Ph.D., CT Executive Director: Operation Respect, David McCourt's other desultory charity

Mimi Torp of Santa Monica, who was a friend of both women.

Allan Hackel 73, of Newton, Mass., widower; owner of an advertising business,
Jodi Hackel Miller , Paige Hackel's stepdaughter.
Peter Hackel , Stepson
Theresa, Paige Hackel's housekeeper

Marjorie Farley of Newton and St. Simons Island, Ga.; Paige's mother,
Michael Farley of Phoenix, Paige's brother (of Mesa, Ariz.)
the former Paige Farley, one of three siblings,
Vincent Farley, Paige Farley Hackel's cousin, who grew up with her in Framingham, before she moved to Newton after she married.
Connie Katz of Philadelphia, niece (from a Jewish specialty magazine)
Elizabeth Katz, great-niece

Deepak Chopra Paige spent this year studying with spiritual guru and staff
Wayne Dyer self-help guru and author
Debbie Ford, colleague of Chopra's, author of the New York Times bestseller "The Dark Side of the Light Chasers."
Rosemarie VanCamp , friend and fellow Salvation Army board member of Paige
Patricia Church , who answered the door of Hackel's home Wednesday (Paige's obituary in the Boston Globe.)

Andrea [Maffeo?] Jeannieann's sister, appeared on Oprah
Maria Hernandez, Brooklyn, New York Jennieann's cousin
Jill Friedfertig, Livingston, New Jersey "I saw her sister on Oprah with Greg Manning and the book he wrote "love Greg and Lauren."
Nina Siegel, NY, New York the headhunter who placed Jennieann in her programmer's position at NYU in 1988!
Evan Momios, Brooklyn, New York, saw Ms. Maffeo numerous times on the bus on my way to work in the five years I worked for PaineWebber
Geri Suida, Ridgewood, New York , Asst Mgr Bank Reconciliation UBS/PaineWebber , "I remember Jeannieanne from the ferry boat and from seeing her around UBS/PaineWebber. When we heard that a co-worker had been burned waiting for the Ferry Bus, I did not think it was her."
Bob Shearer, Scarsdale, New York "Before Jennie joined Paine Webber,she worked for a few years at New York University's Administrative Computing Center, and was a valued and much-loved member of that diverse, hard-working crew. A real sweetheart, sadly missed."
Jaime Pisani, Bayonne, New Jersey, "On behalf of Jennie Ann's classmates from the UBS-Paine Webber Stevens Institute of Technology Graduate classes."
Sharon Roth, Wappingers Falls, New York, "I did not know Jennieann. I work for Deloitte & Touche at 2 World Financial Center on the 8th floor. When the first plane hit on 9/11 we ran to the window and saw a woman on fire on the sidewalk in front of 2WTC. We saw the firemen roll her, extinguish the fire, and then they went into the building. We thought that she had died. At that point I went to the phone to call home. When the second plane hit, I got out quickly. I have told my family and friends of my experiences, which include seeing this woman who I did not know. I was saddened to read in the News that she had survived for six weeks and then lost her battle to live. She must have been quite a fighter. I will remember Jennieann for the rest of my life, even though we never met." [Oct. 26, 2001]
Catherine Gaffney, New York, New York, "Although I did not know Jeanieann, my heart goes out to her family and loved ones. We, at UBS PaineWebber, were all praying for her recovery, and were deeply saddened when she lost her brave battle. We will continue to pray for her family and loved ones." [Oct. 25, 2001]
Lisa Tansey, Lynn, Massachusetts, "I did not know Jeanneann but I work at UBS Painewebber and was deeply saddened to learn of her death."

These names represent some casual notes I took and I will need to go over the record again to claim any sort of comprehensiveness, but, as a cursory analysis, I'd say that Paige is likely to be real, while Ruth Magdaline (Clifford) McCourt, and off-spring, are likely to be vicsims.

Since McCourt's two brothers are so clearly fraudulently narrative-driven, this adds to her inherent falsity.

Her widower David McCourt, of Abco Welding & Industrial Supplies, fits a pattern I've begun to recognize, which is not so much deep-cover asset, as it is "friend-of-deep-cover-asset." I'd suppose that he has been illicitly helped somehow in business or professionally, and thus has secrets held over him by which he can be made to keep the Big Lie.

Organizations like the Salvation Army and Goodwill are riff with planted government assets, IMHO.

The big effort at some cheap landscaping, then calling it a Memorial Garden for McCourt supports her being a vicsim.

Might we then extrapolate a one-third/two-thirds ratio between the real and the fake?

Just read the following excerpt. Is it me, or isn't this just laughable? "It's not the same!"

"I spent two of the past three weekends with them," said VanCamp, a former news anchor who lives in Chelsea. "The feelings are mixed. There's joy at being with them and profound sadness that she's not there. Her picture is there, but it's not the same.

"Her last words on my answering machine were 'I love you' and there is comfort in that, but I yearn for her," she said. "There hasn't been a day that has passed that I haven't thought about Paige."

Still, VanCamp struggles with her loss and said the anniversary of the attacks will be especially difficult.

"I thought I was doing just fine, but for the last three weeks, I find the rage is building inside me again," she said. "I'm sure I'll get past it. Paige would want it that way."

Caption: MISSING SOMEONE: Rosemarie VanCamp is reflected in a flag given to her in the wake of the death of her friend, victim Paige Farley Hackel, who died on Flight 11. VanCamp deals with her sorrow privately, as do many others who lost friends and co-workers on Sept. 11. Staff photo by Patrick Whittemore


Alice Fitzpatrick at 1-860-442-3572.

(Suppressed Irish Independent article:
http://www.unison.ie/features/911oneyea ... &si=823151 dead)
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stevenwarran 4 Oct 23 2009, 04:07 PM wrote:
(Suppressed Irish Independant article:
http://www.unison.ie/features/911oneyea ... &si=823151 dead)


I noticed that MOST of the articles you linked to on your blog (regarding the Jeannieann Maffeo, Ruth Magdaline Clifford McCourt, Paige Farley-Hackel, Ronald Hans Clifford-say-that-three-times-fast affair) are now "page-not-founds". Did this all happen in the last week or so? Just wondering... :huh: I say, if that's the case, how very bizarre that would be, huh?...

Let's hope more people get on board on this persons-or-ghosts search. This is truly a useful evolution of the hoax exposure. Let's roll, folks.

Unread post by stevenwarran »

Thanks Simon, for pointing out my broken links. They're fixed now. I think it was internet incompetence on my part, and not some nefariousness that was at cause.

EXCEPT for the suppressed Irish Independent article, which is, well, suppressed. I am sure it contains many juicy anomalies. We need a Dubliner with access to a hard-copy archive to search and seize.

P.S. I've been able on a scatter-shot basis to retrieve cached copies of certain 911movement.org pages, but when I tried putting the URL into archive.org I come up with a Robots.txt Query Exclusion.

We're sorry, access to ... =firefox-a] ... =firefox-a has been blocked by the site owner via robots.txt.

which means a highly deliberate effort at suppression, so THANKS A LOT KILLTOWN!!
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Before today I wasn't aware of the 'victim' William Caswell - and then this afternoon in a couple of minutes came across two references. I haven't had time to try to figure out if he is in any way a real human being.

Any thoughts?

1. “As part of the Federal Laboratory Consortium for Technology Transfer, NIST partners with the Naval Surface Warfare Center at Indian Head (NSWC-IH) on Chemical Science and Technology. NSWC-IH is probably the most prominent US center for nanothermite technology. In 1999, Jan Puszynski, a scientist working for the DURINT program, helped NSWC-IH design a pilot plant to produce nano-size aluminum powder. It was reported that “At that time, this was [the] only reliable source of aluminum nanopowders in the United States”, however, private companies like Argonide and Technanogy were also known to have such capabilities.
A tragic coincidence left William Caswell, an employee of NSWC-IH, dead on the plane said to have hit the Pentagon (Flight 77). He had for many years worked on “deep-black” projects at NSWC-IH.”


2. “It wasn’t a Muslim who was claimed to have been killed on the alleged American Airlines “Flight 77″, to have lived at Silver Spring, Maryland (as did a certain Rabbi Dr. Dov Zakheim), and to have worked on top-secret “deep-black” projects at the Indian Head Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC-IH), a “renowned leader in energetics” which operates an “Energetics Manufacturing Technology Center”, carries out “advanced research in energetic systems” and “absorbed the function of the closed Naval Ordnance Laboratory, formerly in White Oak, MD” which is a couple miles from Silver Spring; it was William E. Caswell.

It wasn’t Muslims who were claimed to have been killed on the alleged “Flight 77″ and who worked for government or defense, particularly the Navy; it was John Yamnicky who, strangely, for the first time did not tell his daughter that he was going on travel, and who, like William Caswell, had worked for the Navy on top-secret “black” projects. Others included Charles Burlingame, a former Navy fighter pilot who used to work in the section of the Pentagon that was hit and who had formulated a response for the eventuality of an airliner being flown into the Pentagon and whose daughter Wendy subsequently died in a “suspicious fire” at a 50-story high-rise in New Jersey in December 2006, Wilson “Bud” Flagg, a retired American Airlines pilot and Navy Admiral, Stanley Hall, an expert in anti-radar technology and a director of program management at Raytheon, Bryan Jack, a senior executive and top budget analyst who worked at the Pentagon, Chandler Keller, a Boeing propulsion engineer, Dong Lee, a Boeing engineer who worked for their Integrated Defense Systems and who had worked for the National Security Agency (NSA) for 14 years, Barbara Olson, CNN commentator and wife of the US Solicitor General who claimed to have received cell phone calls from “Flight 77″, Ruben Ornedo, a Boeing propulsion / satellite communications engineer, Robert Penniger, an electrical engineer with BAE Systems, and another dozen alleged “Flight 77 passengers” who were linked to defense and government who, we are told, all just happened to be on this unusually low occupancy flight. These people, well loved and respected as honest, decent heroes, are the very sort of characters whose work could have been horrifically exploited without their knowledge, and whom the 9/11 perpetrators would need to eliminate to prevent them speaking out after the attacks.”

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Unread post by SimonJCP »


(Mohammed oughta? Atta boy?)


Where/when was this photograph taken and why do all of these photographs seem to have such blank backgrounds?

He's Egyptian, yet we're told that he went to Germany to study after attending Cairo University. His father is also named "Mohammed Atta". The flight school that we are told trained him, Huffman Aviation, has a very suspicious background that includes ties to Christian evangelists, Drugs, and, of course, the CIA.

Atta's movements at Boston Logan Airport are extremely hard to believe. We're told that he, the lead hijacker, was the only one whose bags "didn't make it aboard". To make this whopper of a coincidence an impossibility, he was selected for the CAPPS program, and thus, his luggage was given special treatment.

The ticket agent was reported to have died from an alleged "suicide" and the security "didn't recall" the hijackers.

Unread post by stevenwarran »

Police Officer Vincent Danz: Vicsim or Mock Victim?
http://stevenwarran.blogspot.com/2009/1 ... im-or.html

Another attempt at distinguishing between a Vicsim and a Mock Victim.


I think Mock Victim clearly wins here hoi. But Danz would make for a great shield to hid some vicsims in the 22 other P.O.'s