THE 9/!! TV (and press) ARCHIVES

[simonshack]

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THE 9/11 TV ARCHIVES are at it again !

Remember the WNYWFOX5 "Good Day" broadcast (henceforth, "THE GOOD DAY" broadcast) which featured the infamous nose out? I'm sure you're all familiar with it. Please know that I have not, in all these years, been able to find anything longer than perhaps 25minutes or so of the 9/11 GOOD DAY broadcast aired by WNYW (a so-called "FOX5 affiliate") - which contained the embarrassing nose-out disaster. This led me to conclude that FOX decided to reconstruct their 9/11 archives with a patchwork of images ripped from the other 'rival' networks (as expounded in my "FOXED OUT" analyses viewable on Youtube).

Well, (*drum roll*) several hours of the GOOD DAY 9/11 broadcast have recently been uploaded (in 2012) to the 9/11 archives. The problem is, the first and crucial 58min section of it only lasts for 15min or so - whereafter it goes blank (or actually black) for the remaining 43 minutes! (in fact, one comment by one 'Matt Nelson' - no, that's not me - righteously points this out). Check it out for yourself:

http://archive.org/details/FOX5NEWS_200 ... Y_Good_Day




Funnily enough, I recently found this uninterrupted, 2-hour long "GOOD DAY" broadcast (apparently uploaded by some German Youtube user in August 2011). Now, don't ask me where this German guy got that videofile from - maybe we should ask him. But we may rightfully ask ourselves: WHY do the official 9/11 archives feature a truncated version of the GOOD DAY 9/11 broadcast? Is there perhaps something that they don't want us to see?


THE 2 FIRST HOURS OF THE "GOOD DAY" BROADCAST:

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQdpTzqh8Ag

Could it possibly be that they don't want us to see atrocious digital glitches such as ... this?




Or this?



But these glitches are only a tiny part of a whole treasure trove of hysterical stuff contained in that 2-hour-long GOOD DAY broadcast embedded above. I may be doing a new video about it all - time permitting. Meanwhile, have fun watching it all - and do contribute with your comments about it - if you'll have the time and patience to watch it all through, that is !

Anyways, here's my new Ockham's Razor-style proof of the fakeness of the "GOOD DAY" WNYWFOX5 broadcast:
THE DISASTROUS "GOOD DAY" BROADCAST : viewtopic.php?p=2363797#p2363797

[agraposo]

Well, (*drum roll*) several hours of the GOOD DAY 9/11 broadcast have recently been uploaded (in 2012) to the 9/11 archives. The problem is, the first and crucial 58min section of it only lasts for 15min or so - whereafter it goes blank (or actually black) for the remaining 43 minutes! Check it out for yourself:

http://archive.org/details/FOX5NEWS_200 ... Y_Good_Day

Simon, I already noticed this video blackout some time ago
viewtopic.php?p=2377261#p2377261

I thought it was not very interesting, because nobody responded, although the script in the video is one of my favourites.
"the picture from our chopper now arriving at the scene"

[simonshack]

Yes Agraposo, but please pay due attention to how sloppily the "GOOD DAY WNYWFOX5" broadcast is being managed by the official 9/11 archivists:



http://archive.org/details/sept_11_tv_archive

[brianv]

Jesus H Christ

How did they get away with it? What is wrong with people that nobody questioned those ridiculous images? Every year they get worse, and after not having looked at them for a couple of years now, I'm just stumped at the awfulness. Wake the fuck up USA!

[simonshack]

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In fact, THIS part of the "GOOD DAY WNYW FOX5" broadcast is not to be found in the official 9/11 archives - as I speak, that is... We may all expect that they'll be trying to 'justify' this too! What clowns... Right now, I just think they are terminally stupid.

Btw - this is a new short video of mine. Please support it with an intelligent comment and a kind thumbs up. Thanks!


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okMXOgrVb7I

Source : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQdpTzqh8Ag -> at 57:30

[Viterbi]

Supposedly, the WNYW-Fox 5 coverage was added to the Internet Archive after Dennis Swanson gave to Brewster Kahle in August 2011 two tapes as a special present during the inauguration of the new remodeled site "Understanding 9/11". So, Mr. Kahle received the tapes of the coverage directly from the hands of the President of Station Operations of Fox 5-NY.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muag4wjHmvs
[ADMIN: This video link is broken and is no longer visible. What's up with that? -hp]

7:49.

But it is easy to understand the reason of this black-out of the WNYW coverage between 9:04 and 10:29: this footage is the most bizarre and awkwardly absurd and the clumsiest.

There are a lot of astonishing moments, but there's one that I've always considered over-the-top:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_SGGwR4GiU

9:25.

[Farcevalue]

But it is easy to understand the reason of this black-out of the WNYW coverage between 9:04 and 10:29: this footage is the most bizarre and awkwardly absurd and the clumsiest.

The cut to another day at 4:02 - 4:-03 is interesting, as well...

[brianv]

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In fact, THIS part of the "GOOD DAY WNYW FOX5" broadcast is not to be found in the official 9/11 archives - as I speak, that is... We may all expect that they'll be trying to 'justify' this too! What clowns... Right now, I just think they are terminally stupid.

Btw - this is a new short video of mine. Please support it with an intelligent comment and a kind thumbs up. Thanks!


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okMXOgrVb7I

Source : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQdpTzqh8Ag -> at 57:30

I dont have a youtube account, but the smoke looks like it's in another county!

[brianv]

Simon, just looking at that again. Is it possible that they just alpha-ed or keyed that image on top of the footage from the smoking towers? It would be a coup if it lined up exactly with the tower smoke! Finding it might be painstakingly difficult though!

[simonshack]

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Ok, folks...

So the other day (Dec 17, 2012) I contacted via e-mail the Television Archives - regarding their absurd "Good Day" clip :
The truncated and wrongly time-tagged "8:00AM - 9:00AM" of WNYWFOX5.

Here's the lnk to it: http://archive.org/details/FOX5NEWS_200 ... Y_Good_Day

Here's my mail to them:

Good day,

As the administrator of http://www.Cluesforum.info , I am contacting you on behalf of our 1300 international members hoping you will kindly take the time to answer some questions we have regarding a particular, historical television clip stored on the 9/11TV archives. If you are not in a position to answer our questions, please let us know where / to whom we may forward them. Thanks.

This is the WNYWFOX5 video file in question: http://archive.org/details/FOX5NEWS_200 ... Y_Good_Day

Here are our questions:

1: Why does this 58-min long clip go blank at around the 15:40 mark - and stays blank for the remaining 43minutes?

2: Why is its timeline stated as "September 11, 2001 8:00am-9:00am EDT" - when this is obviously not the case? (the correct timeline should be closer to 8:55am - 9:53am.) How can the official archivists of this historical television event possibly handle / timestamp these all-important TV archives so sloppily ?

3: Who is responsible for uploading these 9/11 television broadcasts on the television archives?


NOTE: The questioned WNYWFOX5 archive clip is actually featured as a "spotlight item" at top left of this official TV archive page featuring Dennis Swanson who presented the WNYW Fox 5 News footage from September 11, 2001 to the TV archives: http://archive.org/details/fox5news911

Thanks for a kind and timely reply

Regards

Simon Shack

Here's what they replied today (Dec20,2012):

Hi,

Thanks for contacting us.

The clip goes blank because that's how it was given to us. Thank you for pointing out the metadata error.

Thanks for using archive.org.

Jeff
Internet Archive Team

Hmm. I guess that I will have to contact FOX's Dennis Swanson - since he was the one who officially presented the WNYWFOX5 9/11 material to the TV archives. Does anyone here know how to reach Mr. Swanson? Thanks for any help with this.

[nonhocapito]

The black out seems to happen soon after the "nose out" event so i don't think they'll have any problem to explain away this strange blackout with antenna problems, since they so often insist how FOX has its antenna on top of the WTC (which would not explain how the rest of the world would get a FOX signal out of NYC after that...)

Anyway like you said Simon the quality is very bad, full of glitches and pixelated. It is ridiculous how they still want us to think that to this day it is so hard to get a decent copy of a TV broadcast of such a historical event. Pathetic.

[nonhocapito]

The last seconds of the NY 'Good Day' broadcast


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jtIVNyDiEA

I had a hard time creating this clip given the absurd format the TV web archive saves in. But I managed...

Anyway the failure does not look like it could be explained away with the antenna signal failing. It looks more like a staged, artificially created mishap with the VHS recorder. And this would be coming from the hands of a "president of station operations" at FOX...

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EDIT: just noticing this, and maybe it has been mentioned: I wonder if it is at all coincidental that the word "comfortably" scrolls right under the towers the moment the plane crashes in. Or if it is rather deliberate, to create a contrast and subtle feeling of wrongness about the whole thing.



In a split second, the shocking image disappears, and the word "comfortably" remains so that your brain surely picks it up.


Seconds later, as the initial shock mounts, it also reads "clear and cool"... I know, it is reporting the weather... but given that it was all prepared in advance, these mind games are probably not accidental.

[simonshack]

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My new video about the whole WNYW FOX5 affair:


FOX FLOP


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls0CRXEVO34

Enjoy!

[brianv]

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My new video about the whole WNYW FOX5 affair:


FOX FLOP


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls0CRXEVO34

Enjoy!

Great stuff Simon! Happy New Year!

[nonhocapito]

Just splendid, Simon.

"It was like Television". Priceless.

Like you said it is clear that all this talk of smoke and explosions "at the base of the towers" served especially for the people in NYC, to be used as a rough justification to their eyes, for all the obscurant smoke billowed to cover the traditional, otherwise damning because recognizably so, controlled demolition of the towers.

Being this part of the "confused information" given at the early stages, people were not supposed to be surprised when later most of these stories were denied, and a lot of what they experienced remained completely unexplained. These stories served only briefly to guide the emotions and more importantly the perceptions of that day.
No surprise they rather not show this 11 years later.