The CORONAVIRUS circus

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Petrov86
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slowanon wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:18 pm On the contrary even, if the game for later this year is to scare many into supporting Trump. (Conjecture.) If the other path is so insane, what else to do, Trump is obviously the sane option.
Like it was in 2016. In the "Alex Jones world" in 2016 the crazy cabal was hell-bent on going to war with Russia. Now Bill Gates is rising with the mark of the beast vaccine for everyone as apparently suggested by that cartoon.
From what I saw, it is the same situation here in Canada with Trudeau and in France with Macron: a lot of publicity telling people that they do nothing and are not competent. And it is working, as a lot of people talk about how Trudeau and Macron don't do enough.

I guess they will use this mass psychology technique to make it easier to accept what is to come. So we can say "now he is doing something for us, at last!".
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There's a new study that evaluates the different qRT-PCR tests for 'SARS-COV-2':
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 20048108v2

Basically it gives thumbs up for the tests. My attempt for a summary here below:
Abstract
Our goal was to evaluate the primer-probe sets used in four common diagnostic assays available on the World Health Organization (WHO) website. To facilitate this effort, we generated RNA transcripts to be used as assay standards and distributed them to other laboratories for internal validation. We then used these (1) RNA transcript standards, (2) full-length SARS-CoV-2 RNA, and (3) pre-COVID-19 nasopharyngeal swabs, and (4) clinical samples from COVID-19 patients to determine analytical efficiency and sensitivity of the qRT-PCR primer-probe sets. We show that all primer-probe sets can be used to detectSARS-CoV-2 [...]
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Introduction
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Our goal was to compare the analytical efficiencies and sensitivities of the four most common SARS-CoV-2 qRT-PCR assays developed by the China Center for Disease Control (China CDC)​, United States CDC (US CDC)​​, Charité Institute of Virology, Universitätsmedizin Berlin (Charité)​​, and Hong Kong University (HKU)​. To this end, we first generated RNA transcripts from a SARS-CoV-2 isolate from an early COVID-19 case from the state of Washington (United States)​​. Using RNA transcripts, isolated SARS-CoV-2 RNA, pre-COVID-19 nasopharyngeal swabs, and clinical samples from COVID-19 patients, we find differences between the analytical sensitivities [...]
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Results
Generation of RNA transcript standards for qRT-PCR validation
A barrier to implementing and validating qRT-PCR molecular assays for SARS-CoV-2 detection was the availability of virus RNA standards. As the full length SARS-CoV-2 RNA is considered as a biological safety level 2 hazard in the US, we generated small RNA transcripts (704-1363 nt) from the non-structural protein 10 (nsp10), RNA-dependent RNA polymerase (RdRp), non-structural protein 14 (nsp14), envelope (E), and nucleocapsid (N) genes spanning each of the primer and probe sets in the China CDC​, US CDC​, Charité​, and HKU assays [...]
By measuring PCR amplification using 10-fold serial dilutions of our RNA transcript standards, we found the efficiencies of each of the nine primer-probe sets to be above 90% (​Fig. 1B​), which match the criteria for an efficient qRT-PCR assay​. Our RNA transcripts can thus be used for assay validation, positive controls, and standards to quantify viral loads: critical steps for a diagnostic assay. Our protocol to generate the RNA transcripts is openly available​, and anyclinical or research diagnostic lab can directly request them for free through our lab website (​www.grubaughlab.com​).
It discusses the RNA transcription process and also the clinical samples in greater detail on p. 14.
Clinical samples
Clinical samples from COVID-19 diagnosed patients were obtained from the Yale-New Haven Hospital. We extracted nucleic acid from nasopharyngeal swabs, saliva, urine, andrectal swabs using the MagMax Viral/Pathogen Nucleic Acid Isolation kit following manufacturer’s protocol. We used 300 μL of each sample and eluted in 75 μL. We used the Luna Universal One-step RT-qPCR kit with standardized primer and probe concentrations of 500 nM of forward and reverse primer, and 250 nM of probe for the 2019-nCoV_N1, 2019-nCoV_N2, and RP (human control) primer-probe sets to detect SARS-CoV-2 in each sample.
My very layman question about this would be, how was the diagnosis of the patients having COVID-19 established in the first place?
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He's the biggest clown err... crown of the circus


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI2WJb5rchM
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Someone apparently predicted this 2020 fake pandemic way back in 2008.

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In the summer of 2008, an elderly psychic who claimed she started receiving premonitions at age 5 published a book that contained an ominous prediction.
"In around 2020, a severe pneumonia-like illness will spread throughout the globe, attacking the lungs and the bronchial tubes and resisting all known treatments," it said. "Almost more baffling than the illness itself will be the fact that it will suddenly vanish as quickly as it arrived, attack again ten years later, and then disappear completely."
The prediction faded from public memory and the book's author, Sylvia Browne, died in 2013. But the coronavirus pandemic has brought new attention to Browne's book, "End of Days: Predictions and Prophecies About the End of the World."
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/22/worl ... index.html

I particularly like the way Sylvia predicted that the virus would "suddenly vanish as quickly as it arrived". I predict that prediction will also come true.
Pokerniko
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I would like to submit you the first 2019 cover of The Economist:

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Which are the odds to insert a pangolin (bottom left)?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... -to-humans

This one is The Economist march/april 2020 cover, looks like they are pretty confident about whats's going on...:

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alovas1980 wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:22 pm In Hungary on the official government site for Coronavirus, everybody can see almost everything about the people died with Coronavirus. I couldn't find any other site which collects these data from other countries. Maybe it can be interesting. There are 20 deaths in total until now.

https://koronavirus.gov.hu/elhunytak

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All Coronavirus Deaths in Hungary, 1st of April, 2020

Index	Gender	Age	Chronic diseases

1	Female	76	cardiovascular
2	Female	65	cancer
3	Male	74	cardiovascular
4	Male	79	cardiovascular
5	Male	68	cardiovascular
6	Female	41	hypertension
7	Male	38	chronic pancreatitis, alcoholic liver damage
8	Male	53	cardiovascular
9	Female	90	aortic stenosis, coronary artery disease, hypertension, atrial fibrillation
10	Male	75	hypertension
11	Male	80	no data
12	Male	73	coronary artery disease, encephalopathy, hepatopathy, vasoconstriction, hypothyroidism
13	Female	86	tuberculosis,lymphocytic colitis,pulmonary embolism,Hashimoto's thyroiditis,dermatomyositis,Diabetic polyneuropathy,deep vein thrombosis,
14	Male	92	allergic asthma, stroke, pacemaker
15	Male	94	chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
16	Female	59	renal transplant, diabetic, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, coronary artery disease, hypertension
17	Female	86	hypertension
18	Female	67	coronary artery disease, hypertension
19	Male	66	cardiovascular disease, chronic rheumatic heart disease, degenerative spine disease
20	Male	91	cardiovascular disease, hypertension, chronic rheumatic heart disease, cerebrovascular disease
It certainly is interesting alovas, as of 13th April the Hungarian official figure is now 99 deaths from Coronavirus, and, if the data is valid, nearly all of the confirmed deaths fall in line with your above figures in which they were elderly and had underlying chronic health condition.

Why is the Hungarian goverment releasing this information?

The figures are so telling that anyone of sound mind can clearly see that healthy individuals are hardly at risk from premature death as a result of this so-called virus, yet stringent isolation rules have to be adhered to.

https://koronavirus.gov.hu/elhunytak?page=2
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It certainly is interesting alovas, as of 13th April the Hungarian official figure is now 99 deaths from Coronavirus, and, if the data is valid, nearly all of the confirmed deaths fall in line with your above figures in which they were elderly and had underlying chronic health condition.

Why is the Hungarian goverment releasing this information?

The figures are so telling that anyone of sound mind can clearly see that healthy individuals are hardly at risk from premature death as a result of this so-called virus, yet stringent isolation rules have to be adhered to.

https://koronavirus.gov.hu/elhunytak?page=2
I don’t know, why they releasing this information. Maybe they try to play the same game as in the communism. Then Hungary was the best place to be in the communist countries. They called it then, the happiest barracks or Goulash Communism.
The government wants to keep their very good position. They have a two-thirds (qualified) majority in the parliament and they have the right to rule indefinitely by decree.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/05/worl ... virus.html
Viktor Orban the prime minister of Hungary says always that he is against oligarchs and seemingly rejects globalism. So maybe that’s his play. He will be the leader who against all the big leaders protected his small country from globalism and the coronavirus. In the meanwhile, gets all the power possible.
We just have a little bit of coronavirus, a little bit of restrictions, just some deaths who all had existing chronic deadly diseases. On his Facebook page he even shows a video from yesterday, when he was in Szeged in the coronavirus hospital. Szeged is the third biggest city in Hungary. In the video you see, that the hospital is completely empty, no one is there. They even say, that in the whole hospital there is only one patient with coronavirus and that’s it.
The video is Hungarian, but short and you can see the empty hospital.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=711941662751463

As of the newest data there are 109 coronavirus deaths officially in Hungary:

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All Coronavirus Deaths in Hungary, 13th of April, 2020

Index	Gender	Age	Chronic diseases
1	Female	76	cardiovascular
2	Female	65	cancer
3	Male	74	cardiovascular
4	Male	79	cardiovascular
5	Male	68	cardiovascular
6	Female	41	hypertension
7	Male	38	chronic pancreatitis, alcoholic liver damage
8	Male	53	cardiovascular
9	Female	90	aortic stenosis, coronary artery disease, hypertension, atrial fibrillation
10	Male	75	hypertension
11	Male	80	no data
12	Male	73	coronary artery disease, encephalopathy, hepatopathy, vasoconstriction, hypothyroidism
13	Female	86	tuberculosis,lymphocytic colitis,pulmonary embolism,Hashimoto's thyroiditis,dermatomyositis,diabetic polyneuropathy,deep vein thrombosis,
14	Male	92	Allergic asthma, stroke, pacemaker
15	Male	94	chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
16	Female	59	renal transplant, diabetic, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, coronary artery disease, hypertension
17	Female	86	hypertension
18	Female	67	coronary artery disease, hypertension
19	Male	66	cardiovascular disease, chronic rheumatic heart disease, degenerative spine disease
20	Male	91	cardiovascular disease, hypertension, chronic rheumatic heart disease, cerebrovascular disease
21	Male	70	Ischemic heart disease (coronary heart disease), metabolic disease
22	Male	89	post tuberculosis, pleural adhesion, prostatic disease
23	Female	81	hypertension, cerebral infarction
24	Male	79	hypertension, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, vasoconstriction, renal failure, cardiovascular disease
25	Female	86	renal failure, hypertension
26	Male	80	hypertension, heart failure, diabetes
27	Female	54	chronic respiratory disease, cardiovascular disease
28	Female	77	hypertension disease, cardiovascular disease, chronic metabolic disease
29	Male	84	cancer, vascular disease
30	Female	85	hypertension, metabolic disease
31	Male	78	hypertension, cancer, metabolic disease
32	Male	85	cardiovascular disease
33	Male	80	cancer
34	Male	86	skeletal lesion
35	Male	61	cancer, congenital genetic disorder, nervous system disease
36	Female	94	hypertension, cardiovascular disease, chronic renal failure
37	Male	73	cardiovascular disease
38	Male	78	hypertension, chronic respiratory disease
39	Female	61	chronic renal failure, metabolic disease, cancer
40	Female	67	cancer, sclerosis multiplex, hypertension
41	Male	84	hypertension, chronic lung disease, chronic renal failure
42	Male	72	chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, arteriosclerosis
43	Male	65	chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
44	Female	77	hypertension, cardiovascular disease, lymphatic system disease, autoimmune disease
45	Male	82	hypertension, femoral neck fracture
46	Male	84	hypertension, traumatic head injury
47	Male	92	metabolic disease, chronic renal failure, cancer, cardiovascular disease
48	Male	74	hypertension betegség, heart disease
49	Female	79	data is being uploaded
50	Male	67	metabolic disease
51	Female	78	cardiovascular disease, chronic renal failure
52	Male	71	data is being uploaded
53	Male	49	hypertension, metabolic disease
54	Male	79	chronic rheumatic heart disease
55	Female	67	data is being uploaded
56	Male	73	data is being uploaded
57	Male	89	data is being uploaded
58	Female	82	data is being uploaded
59	Male	67	chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
60	Female	76	data is being uploaded
61	Female	48	chronic renal failure, metabolic disease, hypertension
62	Female	77	hypertension, chronic renal failure, cardiovascular disease
63	Female	93	cardiovascular disease
64	Female	86	hypertension, metabolic disorder
65	Male	89	cancer, hypertension, chronic renal failure
66	Female	71	chronic kidney disease
67	Male	78	chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, cardiovascular disease
68	Female	66	cardiovascular disease
69	Male	85	cardiovascular disease, hypertension
70	Male	64	chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, hypertension
71	Male	65	hypertension, cerebrovascular disease, metabolic disorder, chronic renal failure
72	Female	89	heart failure, chronic renal failure
73	Male	58	hypertension, cancer
74	Female	73	metabolic disease, vascular disease
75	Male	76	chronic liver disease, cancer, metabolic disease
76	Male	85	hypertension, gastrointestinal disease
77	Female	74	hypertension, heart disease, immune disease
78	Male	60	chronic renal failure, diabetes, hypertension, myocardial insufficiency, chronic circulatory failure
79	Male	85	heart failure, impaired renal function, cancer
80	Female	91	hypertension, cancer
81	Male	62	data is being uploaded
82	Male	84	cancer, heart failure
83	Female	81	respiratory failure, pneumonia, heart and renal failure
84	Female	90	respiratory failure, pneumonia, arterial calcification
85	Male	59	data is being uploaded
86	Male	77	hypertension, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, metabolic disease
87	Female	89	dementia, condition after femoral neck fracture
88	Male	93	cardiac arrhythmia, thyroid dysfunction, hypertension, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
89	Male	89	cardiac arrhythmia, thyroid dysfunction, hypertension, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
90	Male	77	Crohn's disease
91	Female	78	hypertension, arthritis
92	Male	85	cancer, renal failure
93	Female	84	hypertension, metabolic disease
94	Male	70	lung cancer, heart rhythm disorder, ischemic heart disease, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, hypertension
95	Female	78	heart disease, hypertension, musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders
96	Female	90	hypertension, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, extensive vascular disease
97	Male	86	cancer, cardiovascular disease
98	Male	78	cardiac arrhythmia, hypertension, stroke
99	Male	92	chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, hypertension, metabolic disorder
100	Male	66	chronic renal failure, cancer
101	Female	80	pulmonary fibrosis, anemia, gallstones
102	Female	92	hypertension, heart rhythm disorder, arteriosclerosis, chronic renal failure
103	Male	76	data is being uploaded
104	Female	83	hypertension, heart and vascular disease, dementia
105	Female	75	diabetes, hypertension, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
106	Male	46	chronic renal failure, heart failure, atrial fibrillation, thyroid disease
107	Female	66	hypertension, arteriosclerosis
108	Female	89	hypertension, hyperthyroidism, pancreatitis, cancer
109	Female	75	data is being uploaded
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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

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alovas1980 wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:45 pm Mechanical ventilation can cause pneumonia.
Finally, they recognise that ventilating everybody is worsening the situation.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ventila ... ing-2020-4
Coronavirus patients are dying on ventilators. It's leading to a debate over the best way to get oxygen into their damaged lungs.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronav ... ?r=DE&IR=T
80% of NYC's coronavirus patients who are put on ventilators ultimately die, and some doctors are trying to stop using them
...
One of the most important findings in the last few decades is that medical ventilation can worsen lung injury — so we have to be careful how we use it.
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The clown flu is now being relabeled from a flu-like respiratory infection to a blood disease characterized by inhibition of heme metabolism.

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/item ... ism_v7.pdf
(the authors don´t actually use the term "blood disease")
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This is what quarantine looks like on RadarBox:

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https://www.radarbox.com/@2.41699,27.25463,z3
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Here’s my prediction from March 29:
Undoctored wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:35 pm January 11: First coronavirus death confirmed
February 11: Coronavirus disease given a name by WHO: COVID-19
March 11: Pandemic declared

Something is in store for April 11. My prediction is that we will get some kind of official statement that the virus has reached its peak / curve has been successfully flattened / thanks to our “social distancing” we have avoided catastrophe, and that it is now safe for healthy people to lead normal lives.
So how did I do? OK, no rollbacks to the shutdown have been announced yet, but I think I was right in saying we would be shown the light at the end of the tunnel the day before Easter Sunday, and would therefore be rewarded and congratulated for our obedience.

Study reported in The Economist:
The Economist wrote: April 11th 2020 edition
Why a study showing that covid-19 is everywhere is good news
If millions of people were infected weeks ago without dying, the virus must be less deadly than official data suggest
Tweet from from IRS:
IRS wrote: April 11, 2020: #IRS deposited the first Economic Impact Payments into taxpayers’ bank accounts today. We know many people are anxious to get their payments; we’ll continue issuing them as fast as we can. For #COVIDreliefIRS updates see: http://irs.gov/coronavirus
And then this morning (Monday, April 13) the Governor of California had this to say:
San Jose Mercury News wrote: “The curve is being bent because of you,” Newsom said.

After an Easter weekend in which Newsom said officials “did not see the kind of surge that some people had predicted at our parks, our beaches and our playgrounds,” the governor said he had reached an agreement with Washington Gov. Jay Inslee and Oregon Gov. Kate Brown regarding a regional approach to reopening the West Coast economy.

Newsom promised to provide details of the pact at his Tuesday press briefing.
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I appeared on Midnight in the Desert radio show, and discussed September Clues and the Coronavirushoax. Listen here.
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Bologna gets its dancing nurses - they must be aware of sept. clues, cause they chose the Lucio Dalla song attenti al Lupo (beware of the wolf) which in the original video by L.D. plays in a circus!
And what a circus it is.
attenti al Lupo... did they want to say.. don't cry Wolf?
:unsure:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wfpmx0yGXE
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A look at market moves at the time of the Ebola panic in October 2014.

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Suppose that multiplying the S&P 500 Index with the Dollar Index makes for an interesting thing to chart.
This is a chart of that from 2011 to April 2015. The arrows mark the dates of some important events, in some cases like the "Downgrade" or "Taper Tantrum" they mark the day of an event, in other cases like "Syria" or "UKR" they mark the day of a significant event on the timeline of a long-term situation to which the arrow label refers to, so the arrow labels have to be interpreted in context.

Suppose that the high in July 2011 before the downgrade of the US debt is significant, and that the high in May 2013 before the "Taper Tantrum" selloff is significant.
Draw a line that touches both highs and draw a parallel line below that approximately fits the lows between those two highs.
We get a 'channel' which seemingly contains the price movement between May 2013 and October 2014. A channel is a pattern in 'technical analysis', see the Wikipedia article for more information about that. (The quote from a MIT paper there would probably be one of the more interesting ones to point out.)

Before the Ebola panic in October 2014 the market was rising and then the rise paused at the top of the channel. Then in early October the market has began to fall, which on the chart looks like the reversal coincides with the top of the channel. This selloff looks like it was the biggest since 2011. The narrative for it was in part the panic about Ebola, in the headlines at least, also the price of oil began to fall around the same time, similarly to how it has happened now with the coronavirus, worries about economic growth in Europe was another reason.

New articles about the market:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ebola-fe ... 03453.html
https://money.cnn.com/2014/10/15/invest ... orrection/
Ebola timeline:
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/201 ... -timeline/

On October 16 came a soundbite from James Bullard of the St Louis Fed which has "calmed the market." Paragraph 3: https://seekingalpha.com/news/2036825-s ... ht-session
This coincided with the bottom of the channel and the market has turned around there and started going up, and ultimately it has broken out of the channel upwards in November.

There was somewhat of a surprise move by the Bank of Japan on October 31 which might have helped to boost the rise. (Marked on the chart with "Kuroda". "Yellen" and "Draghi" also mark central bank related events.)
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stocks-j ... 00014.html

This pattern, central bank actions preceded by a panicky market selloff, is also somewhat similar to what has happened now with coronavirus, as far as the sequence of events goes, but in 2014 the central bnak actions weren't predicated on Ebola at all, and of course the selloff and actions have been much bigger now.

So if considering the chart above, it's the 2nd time in six years that a virus crisis has unfolded in such a way and with such timing that it has contributed to very significant market moves, and those market moves coincide with projected patterns. The pattern the current crisis coincides with (similarly to the 2008 crisis) was shown in an earlier post:
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Undoctored wrote:


January 11: First coronavirus death confirmed
February 11: Coronavirus disease given a name by WHO: COVID-19
March 11: Pandemic declared

Something is in store for April 11. My prediction is that we will get some kind of official statement that the virus has reached its peak / curve has been successfully flattened / thanks to our “social distancing” we have avoided catastrophe, and that it is now safe for healthy people to lead normal lives.
I had the same thought about April 11. However that is past and France's Micron,( sorry), Macron is now looking at May 11th!
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