THE "CHATBOX"

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Yeah, I'm fine, been here a few times now.

They have called me everything now, schizophrenic, schizo-affective, bi-polar, chronically depressed, psychotic etc.

I was withdrawing from the last couple of years of an anti-psychotic injection I had to get once a month or the cops would pick me up. I stopped it about 8 months ago and the tail end of the withdrawal spun me out a bit and my family got worried i was relapsing into my 'mental illness.'

It started when I was put on an SSRI in my early twenties because I was supposedly depressed (I was on the dole and just skated all day, so I had to be depressed, right?) and I had a psychotic episode, not uncommon with SSRI's. Once your in the system, its hard to get back out. we have very harsh laws in Victoria, the psych services have authority even over the police. Problem is, my family prefers me on the meds, so when i get off em and start acting like myself, they think i'm losing it. They mean well, I suppose, but once your in the hospital they make you involuntary and you can't leave.

I'm forcing them to use security on me for the injection because this time I'm determined to resist. They have a couple of my friends on multiple injections and pills for years now. Its easy for most people to accept the diagnosis and believe in the system and the 'science.' They just get the non-conformists and try to mould their brains, pretty much. Also, every time I get more active online, I always seem to end up here. not that that proves anything, but it makes me wonder.

They made a mistake with me this time, I hope, anyway. I got an independent psychiatrist who agrees I've never had schizophrenia so i don't belong on an anti-psychotic. I contacted a local lawyer and I'm threatening legal action if they don't cease treatment and release me immediately.

I see these 'psychotic' episodes as a kind of shamanic type experience. there is a good side to the mind breaking down, it allows you to interface with the other world and bring back wisdom, if you know what you're doing. they just hate that because they are scientific materialists and they can't stand evidence of spirit.

Its also interesting that almost all the psychiatrists in this town are Indian. They just don't understand the roots and meaning of the western spiritual traditions and they think if you don't wank and look at porn and watch t.v. you are ill. No joke, those are some of the questions they ask when they assess a patient. they instruct you to masturbate every day and encourage use of porn. Strange people.

Once i was in my little room in the hospital and a young female nurse told me I had been diagnosed with schizophrenia because when they first locked me in solitary I prayed. She said: 'God doesn't exist, therefore you were talking to someone who isn't there, and that's a symptom of schizophrenia, that's how we know you have it.' They are really mixed up people.
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I wrote this and and made them put it in my file here at the hospital. i also sent it to a local compensation lawer.


All missing dates, lengths of time and dosages mentioned in this document can be obtained by accessing my medical records kept by either Doctor === or ____ Psychiatric Services.

On the d/m/y, following a drug induced breakdown due to ice use, I was diagnosed with schizophrenia and placed on a treatment order and put on a depot of Invega Sustena. Although I disagreed with the diagnosis I had no choice but to accept the treatment as I was bound by the treatment order and if I refused the depot I would be hospitalised again. I suffered from many well known side effects of this medication such as lack of motivation, negative and flattened mood, lack of joy or enjoyment of life, passivity, loss of sexual function and weight gain, but accepted the situation hoping I would eventually be able to one day come off it and again live a normal life as I had before.

? months later I got a job that I quickly learned and became proficient at. After a period of ? months from starting the treatment I was taken off the treatment order but continued to go for the depot. After a period of ? months getting the depot while off the treatment order I decided to slowly come off the Invega. On the d/m/y I consulted Doctor === and told him my history in the psychiatric system. He agreed that I was not schizophrenic but had experienced my past breakdowns due to the use of amphetamines and other psychedelics. He said my breakdowns were drug induced. He agreed to follow my progress and gradually lower my Invega dosage until I could completely cease the treatment.

Over a period of ? months my dose was reduced from ?mg to ?mg and that was to be the final dosage before I stopped completely. Everything was going well on this lowest dose but due to work constraints I missed the last appointment with Doctor ===. As I was no longer under any obligation to continue the treatment by law, or to consult any doctors concerning my treatment I made an independent decision to stop taking the injection and see Doctor === only if I experienced difficulties with the withdrawal. As time progressed I experienced various withdrawal symptoms known to be associated with Invega withdrawal such as obsessive and intrusive thoughts, lack of focus and concentration, memory lapses and failures and severe nightmares but I coped with these as best I could and they were not severe enough to consult Doctor === further.

Around the 15/5/2017 to 4/6/2017 the withdrawal symptoms, especially lack of focus, obsessive and invasive thoughts, memory lapses and severe nightmares, became worse but I decided to persist with my plan to completely cease the treatment as I wanted to be free of synthetic chemicals and I did not like the side effects. During this entire time I continued to work at my job and fulfil all my other life responsibilities with no problems at all. I can provide a statement from my employer at the time, confirming that I was able to cope with these symptoms and still do my job and interact socially as usual.

Around this time I smoked some weak marijuana a few times after work in the evening or on the weekend and my family became concerned, as they believe, wrongly, that marijuana had contributed to my mental health issues in the past. The truth is that I had only ever experienced breakdowns following amphetamine abuse, and in one case, the use of psychedelic drugs, and never from the use of marijuana. One of the reasons I smoked it was to relax my emotional and mental state as the withdrawals were getting towards the hardest part. I knew that there would be a particularly difficult final phase of withdrawal because I had previously been on a Risperdal depot and had experienced the withdrawals from that medication and this was similar. I was prepared to face these difficulties and still managed my life effectively even through almost all of this phase of withdrawal.

On the 5/6/2017 I had a particularly difficult day at work due to very intrusive, obsessive thoughts and severe memory lapses and difficulty focusing. As a result of these difficulties with the final withdrawl phase I was unable to complete my work day and had to go home early. My employer was very understanding and allowed me to leave early as I had an excellent record at work, having only had two half days off in two years of work. When I got home I was tired and mentally stressed, but no more than any other person would have been had they been in my position.

I went to bed and slept, but just before I woke I had a very severe and frightening nightmare that I woke from just as my father arrived at my house. I realised I had slept through my alarm and missed my train and would not be making it to work that day. This was disappointing and I was quite shaken from the nightmare, so my father and I went for a drive to get a coffee and chat. I returned home and started to relax and feel much better. I felt that I was finally through the worst of the withdrawals and I was fully prepared to attend work the following day and resume my normal life.

I spent the morning catching up on some shopping, writing emails and other things while relaxing at home and felt quite a bit better after a short nap with no nightmares. As I was sitting drinking coffee and reading a book, and feeling in a really good place after so long withdrawing, there was a knock at the door and I found ### there with two policemen. they asked me to accompany them to the psychiatric hospital for an assessment. As I was feeling much better I went willingly, expecting to be found to be mentally healthy and released. during this time I was conversing rationally and in a normal way with the police and other people I encountered on my way to the hospital, and also while at the hospital waiting for the assessment.

When the time came for my assessment, Doctor +++ simply stated that I was experiencing early warning signs of a relapse of schizophrenia and dismissed the notion that I was merely suffering withdrawal symptoms. She said I needed to be hospitalised and put back on medication. Naturally this was quite distressing for me and I disagreed strongly and argued the point, as would anyone who had gone through so many years of medication and withdrawal due to misdiagnosis, and about to be put through it all again. I argued the point and insisted that I should be allowed to go home as I was expected at work the next day and my status was as a voluntary patient.

Doctor +++ did not listen to my point of view and did not even ask me about my mental or emotional state, she just made a judgement based on hearsay from my family and her own pre-concieved notions and I was not properly assessed at all. I was behaving rationally and reasonably and put forward my case clearly and logically, and although I did speak forthrightly and with conviction and perhaps with some strong emotion, she seemed to think this confirmed her viewpoint and she insisted I be made involuntary and forced to receive two injections of anti-psychotic medication and kept in hospital for over a week with not even escorted leave to have a cigarette outside.

As a result I was forced to give up a new job I was soon to begin. Due to the loss of income it is also likely I will have to find somewhere else to live and this only adds to the feeling of being mistreated by the Doctor +++ and the system as a whole. I consider her actions an injustice and strongly disagree with her diagnosis. It is not fair that when someone disagrees with the doctor's opinion this is taken as further proof of their illness. I should have been properly assessed and Doctor === should have been consulted as he was the psychiatrist I chose independently when I decided to cease the treatment.

Withdrawal effects from anti-psychotic medication should not be seen as evidence of illness as these are well known to occur when a person is coming off such powerful medications and this fact should have been taken into account, however Doctor +++ didnt even mention this or ask me about it. She just made a snap judgement and when I asked for a second opinion she refused to help me get one and simply handed me over to the nurses for the injections.

I believe I have been misdiagnosed (and so does Doctor ===) and have suffered an injustice, I demand that my case be reviewed and I be released from the treatment order she put me on, released from the hospital and allowed to continue my life without injections or other treatments and go back to working with Doctor === as the psychiatrist I chose of my own free will. I also ask that Doctor === be consulted to give his account of my meetings with him, and that his opinion that my breakdowns were drug induced, and not due to chronic schizophrenia, be considered before I am forced to receive any more medication against my will.

All of the symptoms that I displayed, and that were considered early warning signs of a relapse into schizophrenia are well known to be associated with Invega withdrawal and my case should be reconsidered in light of this fact. I have already lost a job due to Doctor +++ negligence and most likely will have to downgrade the location and quality of my dwelling as well. In addition, I am have been unable to locate and retrieve my car for a full week (it is parked somewhere in -----, I don't remember where, and it may well have been stolen, broken into or vandalised.) If I am not released from the treatment order, released from hospital and taken off the depot I intend to pursue legal action against Doctor +++ and the Psychiatric Services and any nurse on duty who fails to act on the contents of this document, in order to be compensated for loss of income and any other losses incurred due to my mistreatment.

At the next available opportunity I demand the right to legal representation and that any and all treatments cease until this has been arranged. I also demand that my property be returned to me and that I be released from hospital immediately and allowed to return to my home and resume my life.

I also sent a copy to the local paper. i hope it works.
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I hope that it works too. For what it is worth I think you are right. I looked up the withdrawal symptoms of Invega, they are very serious indeed. Do you have any friends or other family that can help you?
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No. I'll wait a few hours and see if the lawyers reply to my email.

My immediate problem is I miss my Switch and PS4. Wipeout Omega just came out and I had pre-ordered it so that's annoying. They have a Wii here with Zelda Twighlight Princess and Super Mario Galaxy. I've finished Zelda before but not Galaxy and they are good games, and I have my laptop and net. I'm working on some science fiction stories and a novella I want to finish so I have that to do. Also I have a guitar to play and I play bass so it should improve my technique picking those thin strings.

I'll probably be here at least two more weeks, but I really need some weed to counter the Invega, its the only thing that helps. Some people just drink through the day but I don't like alcohol. Once I'm out I'll get some bush bud and smoke a joint and play some Wipeout and jam with my friends.

I just don't want to get my brain all locked up again, its a real struggle to stay motivated but I think I have adapted through the last lot so I should be right. The worst was haliperidol that they put me on in 95 or whenever, that was evil, evil stuff. The Soviets used to use it to break political prisoners because of the level of akathisia it induces. Wiki says:

'Akathisia is a movement disorder characterized by a feeling of inner restlessness and a compelling need to be in constant motion, as well as by actions such as rocking while standing or sitting, lifting the feet as if marching on the spot, and crossing and uncrossing the legs while sitting. People with akathisia are unable to sit or keep still, complain of restlessness, fidget, rock from foot to foot, and pace.'

Pretty accurate. At least its not so rough now, you can still get stuff done on Invega, Its more of a spiritual battle.

Personally I sense a great shift taking place around the world. Something is changing on a deeper level than we see but its there if you seek it out. I think the bad guys are running scared, they know their time is short. People are so deceived and the sceptics like us are so few its literally hopeless. So we need what Philip k Dick wrote about - A Divine Invasion. If there's gonna be a cosmic battle between good and evil playing out on earth I would rather be on the front line than spectating or indifferent. Ultimately, God (or Nature, Ultimate reality, the Cosmos, whatever you want) is providing this experience for my betterment and preparation for the future. We are all being prepared for something in my view.

Anyone with faith, pray for me :)

Per aspera ad astra!
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:) well, if there is a firmament around the planet if ever we wish to get to space it will have to be 'through hard ships to the stars' in deed...
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Maybe we can equip our craft with a pod-missile and blast our way through.

Got out today, tribunal hearing in about a week.
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I have a question regarding 9/11 that I can't find an answer to via the search engine: Have you, (longtime) members of this forum, found any reason(s) why this particular date was chosen? Was the date itself of any importance symbology-/astrology-/history-wise or was it rather chosen as a matter of strategy like waiting for a specific moment when various key positions could all be held by people in the know so that most of the potentially unforeseen obstacles of that very day could be prevented (if there ever were any real obstacles to fear)?
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animus » June 20th, 2017, 2:06 pm wrote:I have a question regarding 9/11 that I can't find an answer to via the search engine: Have you, (longtime) members of this forum, found any reason(s) why this particular date was chosen? Was the date itself of any importance symbology-/astrology-/history-wise or was it rather chosen as a matter of strategy like waiting for a specific moment when various key positions could all be held by people in the know so that most of the potentially unforeseen obstacles of that very day could be prevented (if there ever were any real obstacles to fear)?
After I'd first heard about 9/11 on the radio driving to work, the first thing I did when I got to my desk was to look in the diary for significant dates.
I noticed that September 18th was New Year's day in the Jewish calendar. Then I thought today (Sept 11th) must be Xmas day in the Jewish Calendar.

To some purists the Millennium actually started in 2001. Going by the Jewish Calendar you could say it was the 2,000th anniversary of the birth of Christ .
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antipodean » June 20th, 2017, 7:01 am wrote:
animus » June 20th, 2017, 2:06 pm wrote:I have a question regarding 9/11 that I can't find an answer to via the search engine: Have you, (longtime) members of this forum, found any reason(s) why this particular date was chosen? Was the date itself of any importance symbology-/astrology-/history-wise or was it rather chosen as a matter of strategy like waiting for a specific moment when various key positions could all be held by people in the know so that most of the potentially unforeseen obstacles of that very day could be prevented (if there ever were any real obstacles to fear)?
After I'd first heard about 9/11 on the radio driving to work, the first thing I did when I got to my desk was to look in the diary for significant dates.
I noticed that September 18th was New Year's day in the Jewish calendar. Then I thought today must be Xmas day in the Jewish Calendar.

To some purists the Millennium actually started in 2001. Going by the Jewish Calendar you could say it was the 2,000th anniversary of the birth of Christ .
Yes. It's the right time of the year to launch new products, movies, etc.. That's all no gobbledygook.
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antipodean » Today, 11:01 wrote:
animus » June 20th, 2017, 2:06 pm wrote:I have a question regarding 9/11 that I can't find an answer to via the search engine: Have you, (longtime) members of this forum, found any reason(s) why this particular date was chosen? Was the date itself of any importance symbology-/astrology-/history-wise or was it rather chosen as a matter of strategy like waiting for a specific moment when various key positions could all be held by people in the know so that most of the potentially unforeseen obstacles of that very day could be prevented (if there ever were any real obstacles to fear)?
After I'd first heard about 9/11 on the radio driving to work, the first thing I did when I got to my desk was to look in the diary for significant dates.
I noticed that September 18th was New Year's day in the Jewish calendar. Then I thought today (Sept 11th) must be Xmas day in the Jewish Calendar.

To some purists the Millennium actually started in 2001. Going by the Jewish Calendar you could say it was the 2,000th anniversary of the birth of Christ .
This has been discussed before. Believe it or not, the hypothesis that the birth of Christ was to be set on the 11th of September has been around for a while (before 9/11) and you only have to google it.

In an esoteric mindset, such as the one we can imagine dominates the minds of the pigs in charge, it would be easy to see 9/11 as the end date to the age of Pisces and thus of the age of Christianity, which lasted for 2000 years, welcoming the new "aquarian age" or whatever. 9/11 would then become this big, dramatic defining moment marking the end of an era, in line with all the declarations that "everything will be different now" etc.

Such centrality of Christianity as the real target of these times of (fake) terror seems to be quite readable now that the anti-Christian anti-old world global campaign is running amok (good luck with the alternatives), and seems to be consistent with a zionist-freemasonic alliance of sorts.

However, "eras" hardly ever "end" with a big splash or a big boom. Rather, they fade away quietly. 9/11 is artifical under this aspect, too. It seems to me more like smoke and mirrors, some delusional intent to cloak with Kabbalistic mystery and an esoteric aura a simple criminal act against the people perpetrated by a gang of corrupted, small-minded gangsters.
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So, it’s Friday, and I just wanted to say that those of you that have suspected Trump to be some kind of NWO marionette or bad guy now officially have been proven wrong. Look at this. He will install solar panels onto his Mexico wall, and Mexico will probably have to pay for those as well. Brilliant. Just brilliant. </irony>

http://nordic.businessinsider.com/trump ... -the-sun-1

Edit: Actually it's Thursday, but it feels like Friday in Sweden since we have midsummer's eve tomorrow :)
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The repercussions - not!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/liv ... ve-updates
Seriously, what are these fucking companies that hire the hacks to write this junk? 11 victims and 9 something-or-others and "Osborne". London type rag is the worst of all. I don't understand how people can treat all "news" like this equally with the high production bullshit. Is it just to get people to absorb the shit subconsciously? How do people fall for this?!

Sorry for not having a more cogent post. I am almost stunned by the stupidity of the so-called "news" and how people keep gobbling it up without any question of its authenticity, lack of need to check facts, etc.
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I agree Hoi, where are people's intelligence when absorbing what they read?

We had a story here in the Detroit area this week where a school district shut down all its schools and school activities because some teenage boy who used to attend one of the schools, had not returned to a juvenile detention facility after a visit with family and they suspected he had stolen his grandfather's gun. There was no threat made against the school, any students or faculty or family member, but the "logical" thing to do was scare the local population with a ridiculous story. I got to the comments praying somebody would say what I was thinking which was why the hell would you shut down schools and after school activities when there was no threat? Critical thinking has almost disappeared in the modern adult, and yet they think they're smarter than ever with their technology toys.
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I've no idea what's going on with this other than it seems contrived (by the media that is):

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-29154929
The family of a teacher found dead on an Indian Ocean island say they are "in a nightmare" after being told the trial of four men accused of murdering him will not be held until next year.
Carl Davies, 33, from Kent, died on Reunion Island in November 2011.
First off, it seems strange they said 'November' instead of a specific date...very 'un-beeb-like'...
Then there was his picture with the prominent "K" in the backdrop...the 11th letter of the alphabet.
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His age was '33'.
His arrival was apparently 07/Nov, he went missing on 09/Nov...11/9 in US and 9/11 elsewhere...
The Murder investigation seemed to have delayed until 19/Nov...ten days later as reported in the press or eleven days later counting 09/Nov as day one...
Mr Davies, a former marine, is believed to have arrived on the French-governed island on 7 November 2011.
His body was discovered two days later and a murder investigation started on 19 November.
Vincent Madoure, 30, was found guilty of murder in a trial on the island.
I can't help but see his name parodying 'innocent? Mad, oh you are!'.
Why do they roll out this shite or is it just so to distract gullible people (counting myself) into even debating/mentioning it?
It just seems such a hollow story.

Edit: just to clarify, for what it's worth, the original link above is to an earlier version of the story, the latest one was on bbc's webpages 24/Jun'17.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-40386539
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