Seems very strange to me. Do you think he's telling you how he really feels or is he just afraid of what we might post about him now?simonshack wrote:Dear Lux,lux wrote:May we now post here about Mr. Campbell using his first & last name and/or photos?
Please know that our Matt Campbell has been sending me various e-mails these last few days, regretting that his actions caused Cluesforum to be shut down, saying he now believes NO planes hit the towers (thus 'supporting the SC research') - and even musing that, for what he knows, his brother "Geoff" may not have perished in the tower collapses at all !
Matt also acknowledges that the human tissue that was sent to him from New York may not have been that of his brother Geoff.
An interesting case, huh?
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This little hiatus in the forum´s activities, lamentable as it may have been, goes to show how important a reference, database and gathering place CF has become. Hoi and Simon, a compliment to both for your hard work and A+ results.
Sounds "too good to be true". You don´t suppose it might be someone impersonating him?simonshack wrote:Please know that our Matt Campbell has been sending me various e-mails these last few days, regretting that his actions caused Cluesforum to be shut down, saying he now believes NO planes hit the towers (thus 'supporting the SC research') - and even musing that, for what he knows, his brother "Geoff" may not have perished in the tower collapses at all !
Matt also acknowledges that the human tissue that was sent to him from New York may not have been that of his brother Geoff.
An interesting case, huh?
That's exactly what I was thinking!!lux wrote:Seems very strange to me. Do you think he's telling you how he really feels or is he just afraid of what we might post about him now?simonshack wrote:Dear Lux,lux wrote:May we now post here about Mr. Campbell using his first & last name and/or photos?
Please know that our Matt Campbell has been sending me various e-mails these last few days, regretting that his actions caused Cluesforum to be shut down, saying he now believes NO planes hit the towers (thus 'supporting the SC research') - and even musing that, for what he knows, his brother "Geoff" may not have perished in the tower collapses at all !
Matt also acknowledges that the human tissue that was sent to him from New York may not have been that of his brother Geoff.
An interesting case, huh?
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You mean : the impersonator of an impersonator? :-DFlabbergasted wrote: Sounds "too good to be true". You don´t suppose it might be someone impersonating him?
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Well, no. I think the Matt Campbell I am exchanging mails with is just one of many pathologically greedy individuals who would readily enroll with the Nutwork's get-rich-quick scheme. In Matt Campbell's available videos on youtube, we just see a man reading out of a script. The gory script he reads is surreal (what with the supposed human tissue sent from, uh... the NY Medical Examiner Office? - to the family in 2008!) . Bob Mc Ilvaine is just one of his American colleagues and - to be sure - there is only a meager handful of supposed "mourning 9/11 family members". Here on Cluesforum, we all know who they are.
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgP2NDnDmrE
Please pay attention to what Matt says at 8:05 :
"I vividly remember the day we received some more of Geoff's remains, this was back in 2008: it was his scalp, with hair attached to his skin, the soft tissue of his left ear, his eye socket, his eyebrow, along with some of his right jaw and three teeth."
Ugh.
Good Lord - I sincerely hope that no human tissue EVER arrives in my mailbox, if one of my loved ones dies in a terror attack !
The sheer arrogance of those scriptwriters is - in itself - quite fascinating. They must have a STRONG faith in the public's gullibility.
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Good onesimonshack wrote:You mean : the impersonator of an impersonator? :-D
I just meant, supposing this Campbell persona is firmly supported by whoever hired/created/uses him, this sudden change of heart is highly unlikely and could be an attempt (on part of the same or an entirely different party) to induce you into making a fool of yourself.
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I see what you mean, dear Flabbergasted.Flabbergasted wrote:Good onesimonshack wrote:You mean : the impersonator of an impersonator? :-D
I just meant, supposing this Campbell persona is firmly supported by whoever hired/created/uses him, this sudden change of heart is highly unlikely and could be an attempt (on part of the same or an entirely different party) to induce you into making a fool of yourself.
But no. I think entities such as this Matt Campbell are real persons - touring around the UK (in this case) to uphold the 9/11 myth. Their contract (stipulated with their paymasters) includes contacting / infiltrating the few people like myself - and this forum - who dare question them.
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simonshack wrote:
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY Matt Campbell is saying by the end of this sentence!
"I vividly remember the day we received some more of Geoff's remains, this was back in 2008, it was his scalp, with hair attached to his skin, the soft tissue of his left ear, his eye socket and his eyebrow, along with some of his jaw, and three teeth"
Thank goodness Clues is back up....I was starting to seriously worry! Well done, good resurrection!
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Just looking at pics of Matt Campbell, next to those of vicsim brother "Geoff Campbell". There are some similarities between the two.
It set me thinking. Perhaps the images of "Geoff" (created nearly 13 years ago now), were based on Matt (then 13 years younger too)? Was Matt the genesis for "Geoff"? His face the base image for the face-morphing software?
Since Matt needed grooming to be ready, pre-911, for the role awaiting him - the bereaving brother - he was already on the scene, and assuredly "trustworthy". Perhaps that's the photo genesis for other 9/11 vicsims who left behind living siblings?
A technique which is suspected elsewhere with the Marlon / Mark Duggan PSYOP - a police shooting vicsim created from old photos of the "surviving brother".
EDIT: just to add - congratulations and thank you to all concerned who got the show on the road again!
It set me thinking. Perhaps the images of "Geoff" (created nearly 13 years ago now), were based on Matt (then 13 years younger too)? Was Matt the genesis for "Geoff"? His face the base image for the face-morphing software?
Since Matt needed grooming to be ready, pre-911, for the role awaiting him - the bereaving brother - he was already on the scene, and assuredly "trustworthy". Perhaps that's the photo genesis for other 9/11 vicsims who left behind living siblings?
A technique which is suspected elsewhere with the Marlon / Mark Duggan PSYOP - a police shooting vicsim created from old photos of the "surviving brother".
EDIT: just to add - congratulations and thank you to all concerned who got the show on the road again!
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http://www.the-campbells.co.uk/
http://www.whois.com/whois/the-campbells.co.uk
Registered on: 17-Jan-2000
http://www.whois.com/whois/the-campbells.co.uk
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Dear EE,Evil Edna wrote: Perhaps the images of "Geoff" (created nearly 13 years ago now), were based on Matt (then 13 years younger too)? Was Matt the genesis for "Geoff"? His face the base image for the face-morphing software?
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Perhaps that's the photo genesis for other 9/11 vicsims who left behind living siblings?
As we have seen on many occasions during our many years of vicsim research, it would appear that the various methods of 'vicsim creation' indeed includes that (particularly simple / crude) method you are suggesting. Here is just one such (notable) example:
Howard & "Gary" Lutnick:
http://www.cluesforum.info/newPHP/viewt ... 0#p2389540
Dear Brian,brianv wrote: http://www.the-campbells.co.uk/
http://www.whois.com/whois/the-campbells.co.uk
Registered on: 17-Jan-2000
Nice find. As we have seen on many occasions during our many years of vicsim research (from 9/11 to the Sandy Hoax farce), tribute / memorial webpages exclusively dedicated to the alleged "terror victims" are oft created in advance of the "terror events" themselves!...
603 (9) days before 9/11...1-17-2000 (11).
Welcome back 'Cluesinfo', I thought something was amiss!icarusinbound wrote:simonshack wrote:
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY Matt Campbell is saying by the end of this sentence!
Thank goodness Clues is back up....I was starting to seriously worry! Well done, good resurrection!"I vividly remember the day we received some more of Geoff's remains, this was back in 2008, it was his scalp, with hair attached to his skin, the soft tissue of his left ear, his eye socket and his eyebrow, along with some of his jaw, and three teeth"
Regarding the remains [eye socket, earlobe, jaw and teeth], is it trying to infer as a warning 'See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil'?
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Never mind about whether Geoff existed - what's happened to Rob the younger brother Geoff used to look out for. Why hasn't Rob joined Matt in this crusade to find the truth ?brianv wrote:http://www.the-campbells.co.uk/
http://www.whois.com/whois/the-campbells.co.uk
Registered on: 17-Jan-2000
The brothers obviously like Horse Racing.
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/rac ... k-victims/#
http://www.racingpost.com/horses/owner_ ... owner_form
http://www.the-campbells.co.uk/gcrc.htm
So according to the above link the Campbells got rid of their beloved horse that was dedicated to Geoff's memory.
Yet this domain dedicated to some sort of memory to Geoff, was registered after the Horse was retired.Ascot 8th April 2003
On the advice of Terry Mills, we decided we had no real option other than to sell Geoffstar.
He was proving to be too much of a monkey and our funds had dried up :-(
He went to the Ascot Auctions and was sold for 1,200 guineas.
He will now run for a new owner, under new colours, with a new trainer. Geoffstar keeps his name
http://whois.domaintools.com/geoffcampbell.co.uk
In the link posted by Brianv is this. How can Geoff win an age group Sussex competition when living in Northamptonshire ?
For whatever reason Matt eventually ends up living in Sussex.Geoff was very proud of his younger brother's achievements and took a keen interest in Robert's success in both Local and National Tournaments, especially when he drew with a Grand Master! By the age of 10 Geoff was now playing County standard badminton, winning The Sussex Junior Open at 12. He then moved on to Campion Secondary School at Bugbrooke.
http://m.theargus.co.uk/search/6752333. ... lly_short/His brother Matt, 33, of Hassocks, West Sussex, said: "The last year has been a rollercoaster. It is particularly hard when the media keeps showing the plane crashing into the towers as that is the moment my brother died.
Also the above article mentions vicsim Karlie Rogers who graduated from Sussex University in 1997.
Another connection to Sussex Uni is Fran Anderson maker of the video featuring Matt. (posted by Simon over a chat)
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/fran-anderson/65/380/303Fran Anderson's Overview
Current Correspondent and Journalist at RadTv UK
video producer at paxvista tv and radtv uk
Website Administrator at Accountable Democracy
Education Birkbeck, U. of London
Sussex University
Here's Fran.(warning not for those into viewing eye candy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccEFTfU03cY
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccEFTfU03cY
So was Geoff actually Rob ? seeing as how Rob is conspicuous by his absence.
This site has Matt & Rob living at the same address 13 Stafford Way Keymer Hassocks BN6 8QG
http://www.companydirectorcheck.com/nic ... n-dutton-4
The same address as this company http://www.companieslist.co.uk/08429660 ... es-limited
Which appears to be a house in a non-descript housing estate
Edit :That company is run by Matt's wife, it's operation address is here. http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/s ... y-services
Felix over at Lets roll has posted some good info. on the family.
http://letsrollforums.com/showpost.php? ... stcount=43
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"He went to the Ascot Auctions and was sold for 1,200 guineas."
And...1,200 Guineas = 1,260 Pounds Sterling
I just had a look at the Wayback Machine http://web.archive.org/web/200206082038 ... k/gcrc.htm
And...1,200 Guineas = 1,260 Pounds Sterling
I just had a look at the Wayback Machine http://web.archive.org/web/200206082038 ... k/gcrc.htm
If you would like to donate monies towards training costs to keep 'GeoffStar' racing, please send cheques made out to "Geoff Campbell Racing Club" to PO Box 8, Hassocks, BN6 8WG or contact [email protected].
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So your donation helps keep Geoff's memory a living one, whilst the horse is still alive.Please help us to keep the memory of Geoff a living one, we want to celebrate his life rather than mourn.
If you would like to donate monies towards training costs to keep 'GeoffStar' racing, please send cheques made out to "Geoff Campbell Racing Club" to PO Box 8, Hassocks, BN6 8WG or contact [email protected].