OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

[Maat]

Didn't really think I would have to prove I know someone.

Seriously, are you bloody retarded?

No, you're just the first person who needs me to document my friendship to a random person I know. Do you document all your friendships and acquaintances?

This is obviously not about any "friendship to a random person", is it! You are trying to claim you know fictitious characters in a major government psy-op hoax! So you are either a completely duped "useful idiot" or a deliberate shill for your lying government & media.

Any normal person who had actually known a victim of a real event would have no trouble with names and credible details to support their claim. They certainly wouldn't bother joining an online site of experienced investigators dedicated to exposing frauds without providing substantial proof — unless they were retarded!

[simonshack]

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EIRIK MORTENSEN - hero of the Breivik saga

I feel the urge to translate this horridly sappy story of hero Eirik Mortensen - as reported by the Norwegian media. Here's my best (English) transcript of the "heroic deeds of Eirik Mortensen". It reads like a copybook script - straight out of the 9/11 manual of hero-building:

HAUGESUND / OSLO (Dagbladet): http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/08/01/nyhe ... /17519239/



Many individuals showed an outstanding courage during the terrorist attack on Utøya. 16-year-old Eric Høie Mortensen is one of the heroes who put their lives on the line to save others.

For 20 minutes he fought against the cold water and Anders Breivik Behring's bullets as he held two other people floating - one severely wounded. He had then already been swimming for his life for 45 minutes.

- I was just going on adrenaline. The only thing I thought was that I had to do it, says Mortensen.

I got eye contact
On the fatal Friday, 22 July, Eirik Mortensen stood in the outer exit of the main house when he heard the first few shots. Suddenly Utøya transformed from paradise to hell. Mortensen ran first into the main house.

- I laid down for a while in the great hall. From that part of the island you can get a quite a good overview, so I raised my head slightly and looked out of the window. Then I saw him shoot people in the tents. Then he suddenly looked up at me. We made eye contact.

Called the police
As the offender progressed down the camping, Mortensen jumped out of the window and ran down to the power house.

- We heard gunshots coming closer. I called the police and told them what was happening. After I had put down the phone, I heard the man shouting that it was safe to emerge, and that the perpetrator had been taken. People stood up and walked up to him, and again he resumed shooting.

Said goodbye
The 16-year-old was sure he was going to die, so he called his parents to say goodbye and tell them how much he loved them.

- The tears were close, but I did not cry. If I had cried, I would have been weaker, and an easier prey to the killer, I thought. I had to handle the situation and keep a cool head, says Mortensen.

Shelter
The shots kept coming closer, but Mortensen was able to seek shelter in a rock crevice along with others. That was when he saw a man who was about to drown.
- He struggled in the water, and it was obvious that he needed help. When the shooting stopped for a while, I stuck my head out to see where he was. Then he looked at me and fired. He hit a tree only twenty inches from my head.

Shot in the groin
After a while, one of the others signaled that the shooter had moved. Mortensen ran towards the water to rescue the man.

- He had a lot of thick clothes on, so I pulled them off him. Then I saw that he was shot in the thigh and groin. I put him on my chest, and kept a hand on the shot wound and one on the jaw so that he could breathe, tells the brave 16-year-old.

Angel vigilance
As they swam for their lives rained bullets around them. When Breivik failed to hit them with the gun, he took up his rifle. -All the time we were fired upon. We tried to dive under water, but we had to up to catch our breath. I saw bullets hitting all around us. We had a guardian angel. After about 45 minutes in the water they caught sight of a girl, who cried out that she was about to drown. She had cramps throughout the body, according to the 16-year-old:

- I thought it was better to die in the attempt to save her, rather than live with the knowledge that I didn't rescue her. I swam away down there, and took hold of her.

Swam for 20 minutes
For 20 minutes, Mortensen swam for his life with the two in tow before the rescue boat arrived. The 16-year-old was completely exhausted and collapsed as he came ashore. He was first taken to a café and then to Sundvollen Hotel, but he vomited and passed out all along. Finally he was taken to Ringerike hospital.

- I had lots of water in the lungs and stomach pains. They thought maybe I had internal bleeding, but I did not.

Do what you must - NOW
The 16-year-old still doesn't know who the girl is or how she's doing. The man's condition should be stable, but he is still in hospital. Mortensen does not want to reveal his identity. Although he does not want to appear as a hero.

- I only did what I had to do, and what I felt was right. I do not see myself as a hero, he says.

He is aware that he would never achieved what he did in the water, had it not been for survival instinct.

- I never thought that I would be able to rescue and swim with two people for such a long trip. But it's different when it's about life and death. You have to do it.

(translation by Simon Shack)

Isn't it a quite compelling tale of heroism ? Uhm - honestly now: WHO THE FUCK WRITES THIS UTTER CRAP?

[Methel]

This happened a year ago, and while I can supply names and details for my close friend I've chosen not to do so out of respect for him.
Eirik though did go to the medias after it happened and as such put himself out there. Unfortunately I don't know him that well. I've spoken to him on perhaps 4-5 occasions. And before all this happened he was just a random person to me.

[Maat]

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EIRIK MORTENSEN - hero of the Breivik saga

HAUGESUND / OSLO (Dagbladet): http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/08/01/nyhe ... /17519239/
Many individuals showed an outstanding courage during the terrorist attack on Utøya. 16-year-old Eric Høie Mortensen is one of the heroes who put their lives on the line to save others.

[...bullshit...blah, blah, barf,...]

Isn't it a quite compelling tale of heroism ? Uhm - honestly now: WHO THE FUCK WRITES THIS UTTER CRAP?

Apparently those with the same creative 'skills' and mental capacity as 'Methel'

Any "30 year old" claiming a 16 year old boy as a "random acquaintance" would be queer enough in real life, let alone a fake media creation

[whatsgoingon]

This happened a year ago, and while I can supply names and details for my close friend I've chosen not to do so out of respect for him.
Eirik though did go to the medias after it happened and as such put himself out there. Unfortunately I don't know him that well. I've spoken to him on perhaps 4-5 occasions. And before all this happened he was just a random person to me.

Nice of you. But is it not moot at this point. The media circus and drumbeat made these children propaganda for Norway and the rest of the World. So why can't you offer his/her name? It is not as if the name is published already. Heck you could pick any name. How would we know? You do not wish to post the name because you will get caught on a detail again. You need to keep it abstract because you are not good on the details.

I guess then we are finished with you. At least I am.

[brianv]

Admit it Methel! You were duped into coming here and presenting your empty case, weren't you?

How did you meet your handler? Fuckface dot con?

[Maat]

I doubt this one needed a 'handler', his intro says it all:

Spend most of my time on gaming, reading (mostly fiction) and surfing the web. Anything to make time go by.
Think that should cover it?

[Methel]

Admit it Methel! You were duped into coming here and presenting your empty case, weren't you?

How did you meet your handler? Fuckface dot con?

That's it. Gate's locked — Maat

[tinfoilbrigade]

Same phony "funeral" pics as all the others: http://nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/troms_og ... /1.7739066
Giggle translation

And what is "wrong" with these pictures?

Gate's locked on this recidivist troll too: aka solheim / kjakan (and evidently also ypsdassom & louiscyphre from July/August last year)— Maat

[brianv]

Membership has been busy in the last few minutes!

What's wrong with this picture?

Since we have exploded the myth of Utoya, there have been numerous new posters claiming to have a friend who is the uncle of one of the victims, when challenged about the identity of this person the poster slithers and slides and changes the subject. Never one piece of evidence is produced to back up their alleged relationship with the alleged uncle of the alleged victim! Then they depart in one fashion or another.

Where are the hundreds of families whose grief we are mocking? Stop sending retards!

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Cheers Maat, I guess that answers my "Who put you up to it" question!

[Maat]

Note, the posts that followed from here have been moved to the Derailing Room thread

[simonshack]

This is only conjecture of course, but Willy Ustad - pictured at right - is an old (former military) man who has written a defamatory article about Cluesforum - on the Adressa avisa, one of the oldest Norwegian newspapers...

He is also the author of the book "UFO in NORWAY":



We have talked about this before on Cluesforum: viewtopic.php?p=2358627#p2358627

Could this "Methel" possibly be a sock puppet of Willy Ustad?

[Maat]

Possible, Simon, but that is actually a well known and ubiquitous internet meme, using a shot of Giorgio A. Tsoukalos "alien expert" from the History Channel's "Ancient Aliens" series
See: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ancient-aliens

[whatsgoingon]

http://www.adressa.no/meninger/article1686996.ece?S%C3%B8k=Send+foresp%C3%B8rsel

Granted this is Google translation, but this shows a lot of desperation on their part. They are trying to lump honest people here in this forum with Breivik and McVeigh. That is kind of hilarious and shows why the international terrorist is no longer being used by TPTB. It appears the threat to the system are honest citizens asking why their governments lie to them about fanciful, farcical disasters. Gee, they are getting so desperate to maintain power over people. Perhaps the people are tired of their junk media and fake disasters and sappy stories of courage and hope and black versus white.

But behind the nick Simonshack hides a grown man who lives in Italy. One must ask what are his intentions to draw a crowd of impressionable and clear simple souls with him into a paranoid world that reminds so much about Breivik and McVeigh.

[simonshack]

http://www.adressa.no/meninger/article1686996.ece?S%C3%B8k=Send+foresp%C3%B8rsel

Granted this is Google translation, but this shows a lot of desperation on their part. They are trying to lump honest people here in this forum with Breivik and McVeigh. That is kind of hilarious and shows why the international terrorist is no longer being used by TPTB. It appears the threat to the system are honest citizens asking why their governments lie to them about fanciful, farcical disasters. Gee, they are getting so desperate to maintain power over people. Perhaps the people are tired of their junk media and fake disasters and sappy stories of courage and hope and black versus white.

But behind the nick Simonshack hides a grown man who lives in Italy. One must ask what are his intentions to draw a crowd of impressionable and clear simple souls with him into a paranoid world that reminds so much about Breivik and McVeigh.

Yeah - in Willy Ustad's mind I'm comparable to Breivik and Timothy McVeigh (and so are ALL of us on this forum). Dontcha love it?