9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc

The notion of 'thousands of victims' was crucial to generate universal public outrage. However, having 3000 angry families breathing down their necks was never part of the perps' demented plan. Our ongoing analyses and investigations suggest that NO one died on 9/11.

Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby guivre on May 27th, 2012, 8:06 pm

How convenient to die on Memorial Day weekend, when we're already getting enough pro US military propaganda.

Did we ever get a story of why she's holding the death card here?

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby Maat on May 28th, 2012, 10:33 am

ninetynine wrote:RIP Sandy Dahl, sim-wife of sim-pilot Jason Dahl

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/ ... ptain-dies

"Sandy Dahl, the widow of the pilot of the flight that crashed into a Pennsylvania field on September 11, 2001, has died...

Love their 'sources': "her charity says [she died of natural causes]" — "A family friend tells...[she died in her sleep]" Poor li'l 'orphan' :rolleyes:

[PerpSpeak: "has died" = character role terminated —> retired/reassigned; "natural causes/in sleep" = script N/A —> writers retired/reassigned :P]

9/11 widow in bitter burial dispute

She has sued to be buried next to husband, who piloted Flight 93
JOE RODRIGUEZ, San Jose Mercury News

Published 06:30 a.m., Sunday, December 17, 2006

Caption: (on image posted above)
Sandra Dahl holds a photo of her husband, Jason, an ace card and their wedding photo after taking a ride on his behalf in an F-16 fighter jet in 2004 at Buckley Air Force Base, Colo. Now the widow has filed suit to have his remains moved from California to Colorado. Photo: JOHN LEYBA, AP / HC
Source: http://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/ ... 902936.php
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby Utah on June 2nd, 2012, 7:17 am

Mr. Dahl was another one of these characters with little photographic or other record, yet did have a grieving family member running around doing 'never forget' photo-ops and running a 'scholarship' fund. I suspect more 911 actors like Mrs. Dahl will soon abandon the charity scam and propaganda operations to retire or get re-assigned as the hoax wraps up. More phony relatives of vicsims will drop dead, commit suicide, die in mysterious car wrecks, etc, just like the 911 eyewitnesses "bumped off" in this crude truther propaganda piece:

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby Maat on June 2nd, 2012, 11:23 am

Ah yes, a lot of actors in this farce have been 'retired/reassigned' in various melodramatic ways to keep "truthers" spinning off the track. :rolleyes: Like fake witness/agent "Kenny Johannemann" (who had apparently appeared on the Jenny Jones show as well).
I commented on this one a year ago:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0_Ns2ShYKc
[Huge list of perp/truther sites in Notes]

My comment (half way down comments page 4), with strangely no reaction/reply:
Just another spook actor (note mask overlay in street scene), had to 'kill' off his fake ID lol Planned years ahead, the area was cleared of all civilians beforehand: NO planes, NO victims (nor ever intended), NO "amateur" film exists (electro-jammed). Just war ratifying illusions created by a few operatives & media execs 'in the know' from an Op Comm Center. We were conned by an elaborate movie, with a cast of crappy actors to demolish some old asbestos buildings & 'justify' a profitable war.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby SmokingGunII on June 2nd, 2012, 12:10 pm

Let's not forget the untimely deaths of "Barry Jennings", whistleblower trapped in B7 (heart attack) & "Wendy Burlingame" , daughter of "Chic" , pilot of "AA77" (apartment fire).
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby fbenario on June 3rd, 2012, 1:14 am

Maat wrote:My comment (half way down comments page 4), with strangely no reaction/reply:
Just another spook actor (note mask overlay in street scene), had to 'kill' off his fake ID lol Planned years ahead, the area was cleared of all civilians beforehand: NO planes, NO victims (nor ever intended), NO "amateur" film exists (electro-jammed). Just war ratifying illusions created by a few operatives & media execs 'in the know' from an Op Comm Center. We were conned by an elaborate movie, with a cast of crappy actors to demolish some old asbestos buildings & 'justify' a profitable war.

Totally excellent summary.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby hoi.polloi on June 4th, 2012, 3:46 pm

It reads like the back of a September Clues book jacket.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby fbenario on June 5th, 2012, 4:47 pm

Wow. What a great article, leading me to a conclusion I had never before considered. Obvious implications for why so many vicsim tributes read like bad novels.
Driven By Desire

Which leads me to the one rule in fiction of which I am certain: Characters want things badly, and they want them now. The bully, the martyr, the lover and the thief are all driven by their desires. And, mind you, there's nothing casual in their undertakings. They connive, they spin, cajole and bargain to get what they think they've got coming. It could be love, or money, or revenge or something much more elemental. In "Les Misérables," Jean Valjean stole bread.

Characters want, therefore they do; desire drives the action. It is what makes characters real, and it is the writer's job to connect the characters' wants to the reader's own longings. Like characters, readers want justice, love, redemption, freedom, connection. Desire propels. Mistakes, irrevocable blunders get made. The story quickens.

But while characters want things desperately, only rarely can they have them. Drama lies in the frustration of desires.
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Characters in fiction are not real people, any more than dialogue is exactly how people talk. Characters are "über"; they are like bouillon before you add water. And so are their desires. The writer's art lies in creating a convincing illusion, a heightening of desire and difficulty—all for the reader's entertainment.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... P_review_0
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby Utah on June 6th, 2012, 4:03 am

Nice link, fbenario. Two implications for vicsim tributes come to mind:

1) The staged vicsim tributes seem so bad because creating convincing characters and writing realistic monologues or dialogue (or tributes, in this case) is actually quite hard to do well.

The team assigned to backstop these flimsy characters used established dramatic tecniques, but lacked the skills and experience to produce a product both entertaining and realistic. Hence the 'bad novel' parellel fits nicely: Hack authors trying to follow a 'proven forumla'.

2) Fake tributes were deliberately written with an emphasis on entertainment and not realism.

While the tributes don't pass the smell test of a critical reader/ investigator, the average sappy American visiting tribute websites is more than willing to suspend disbelief and go along for the ride. Many such fools then contributed an authentic tribute to the imaginary victim they never knew! This crap was written for the masses, and the masses are full of suckers.

3) Drama tactics do not equal drama talent. (See 911 actors!)
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby simonshack on June 7th, 2012, 12:19 pm

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Yesterday, a Youtube user ("happymealmobster") posted this comment on my channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gORu-68SHpE

sorry but no. i knew someone in the towers who died. i went to his funeral

happymealmobster
1 day ago


So I asked the mobster: "Do you care to mention his name? You know, just to honor his memory!" The short reply was:

Christopher Noble Ingrassia.

happymealmobster in reply to simonshack (Show the comment) 14 hours ago


So I checked up this Ingrassia - and immediately found two 'curious' portraits of him "it" - and a commemorative plaque with two names: Christopher Ingrassia and "fellow Watchung, NJ resident" Honor Elizabeth Wainio:

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( source of commemorative plaque image: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sheenachi/2989492495/ )
( source of upper Ingrassia image: http://www.cantorfamilies.com/cantor/js ... sp?ID=3677 )
( source of lower Ingrassia image: http://www.chrisclassic.com/ )


Christopher Noble Ingrassia- from Watchung, NJ, 28, allegedly died in the twin towers (a Cantor Fitzgerald amployee)
Honor Elizabeth Wainio, from Watchung, NJ, 27, allegedly died in Flight "United 93".

So now we have two "9/11 victims", united by residence, age (almost), death and ... photoshopping. <_<


The Christopher N. Ingrassia Memorial Organization http://www.chrisclassic.com/

THE CHRIS CLASSIC GOLF OUTING SPONSORSHIP FORM: http://www.chrisclassic.com/sponsor_form.htm

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http://www.chrisclassic.com/course.htm

I would hereby like to thank Youtube user "happymealmobster" for this interesting information.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby brianv on June 7th, 2012, 12:43 pm

simonshack wrote:*
Yesterday, a Youtube user ("happymealmobster") posted this comment on my channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gORu-68SHpE

sorry but no. i knew someone in the towers who died. i went to his funeral

happymealmobster
1 day ago


So I asked the mobster: "Do you care to mention his name? You know, just to honor his memory!" The short reply was:

Christopher Noble Ingrassia.

happymealmobster in reply to simonshack (Show the comment) 14 hours ago


So I checked up this Ingrassia - and immediately found two 'curious' portraits of him "it" - and a commemorative plaque with two names: Christopher Ingrassia and "fellow Watchung, NJ resident" Honor Elizabeth Wainio:

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Christopher Noble Ingrassia- from Watchung, NJ, 28, allegedly died in the twin towers (a Cantor Fitzgerald amployee)
Honor Elizabeth Wainio, from Watchung, NJ, 27, allegedly died in Flight "United 93".

So now we have two "9/11 victims", united by residence, age (almost), death and ... photoshopping. <_<

The Christopher N. Ingrassia Memorial Organization http://www.chrisclassic.com/

THE CHRIS CLASSIC GOLF OUTING SPONSORSHIP FORM: http://www.chrisclassic.com/sponsor_form.htm

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http://www.chrisclassic.com/course.htm

I would hereby like to thank Youtube user "happymealmobster" for this interesting information.


Achtung Wachtung! "Ve vill conduct ze mock funerals for ze mock victims"

In which capacity did he/she attend the funeral? Is he/she a "family friend" or "relative" or actor?

Invite him/her over here Simon!

edit/ if they haven't already been previously been banned *sigh* :rolleyes:
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby Maat on June 7th, 2012, 1:43 pm

I posted a reply to the little twerp, 'encouraging' him to visit here too ^_^

Ah, there is one other image...

Ingrassia sim family "memories": http://blog.nj.com/njv_bob_braun/2009/0 ... ms_li.html [9-11-2009]

With a special one-off shoop for the occasion:

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Courtesy of the Ingrassia family
A copy photograph of Christopher Ingrassia a 28 year-old trader who worked at Cantor-Fitzgerald and was killed in the World Trade Center on Sept. 11.

And a little goofy back-story from sim gramma for 2010 :rolleyes:
http://wusatv9.gns.gannettonline.com/ar ... /-1/sept11
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby brianv on June 7th, 2012, 5:00 pm

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Yes Maat, I was just looking at that rather "Jayhanesque" Ingrassia!

The copy bit intrigued me too!!

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Simmetry :unsure:
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby Maat on June 7th, 2012, 5:11 pm

brianv wrote:Simmetry :unsure:

:lol: ...at the cemetery simetery too :P

Simmetry wireless"Anytime, anywhere...it's a good call!" ;)
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby whatsgoingon on June 7th, 2012, 6:52 pm

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