9/11 SIMCITY

[michael]

I actually do not know how to show swf and gif's, it'd be nice if any moderator makes this swf visible: https://853291088992288294-a-1802744773732722657-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/sikkodepo/home/2nd_crash_noheli.swf?attachauth=ANoY7cqlbGVAUOIfrI1YTIIkn1WlKZ69BPquCset0o1hi-ACmJOUiXDf-mm3ntId3fr5KQ05XbL9YbrMhr-pOMofOnVpb9GnGExLLZSkCKgDXg3bzX8sp5hQ_FXvrM7FIcnUtWFwpMZhNPcfivVcx46IysZxREPNskAs0mduvWrgNLEl7kFAabAfrvtlGJMzIhtPPaYi3Kp_NNhV0uyLgHKkPNy0VsVpyYtqgZx1vR7wsv9m38zZo1g%3D&attredirects=0

Sorry about that messy link, but please click to the FIRST link and watch it to the end, just 20 seconds.

It's a comparison between ABC live shot and one amateur video, there's no copter on ABC, because it's FAKE.

And amateur video could be a real shot of explosion, since the missile can not be seen because of camera sight.

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Here's a quicker link to it...Great job, Michael! (upload on septclues.com courtesy of Simon)
http://www.septclues.com/ANIMATED%20GIF ... noheli.swf

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[Brutal Metal]

I like ^ this footage AND REALLY what are the chances of some random college girl who Happened to shoot a video on 911 ending up a Hollywood Producer? Are you aware the number of Mass Comm degrees dispersed in this country yearly? I got one of em in 89

[pawelos77]

This shadow is possible, because the only source of light for this fireman is reflection of the sun on the buildings and yes- you can have the shadow in the shadow-go on the street and check it out. Same shadow has the man crossing the road. There is no sign of the green screen. I'll tell you what is wrong with this video. The explosion is a wee too early, but you have to slow it down and zoom it as someone did on You Tube. So please remove this gif because it makes the forum less credible for the casual viewer.

[Brutal Metal]

^^^ oops we got an expert!

[simonshack]

This shadow is possible, because the only source of light for this fireman is reflection of the sun on the buildings and yes- you can have the shadow in the shadow-go on the street and check it out. Same shadow has the man crossing the road. There is no sign of the green screen.

Pawelos,

I think it is highly doubtful that the building would bounce off enough light to make these crisp leg shadows - in a shaded area.
But we could always travel to NYC (Lispenard St / Church St intersection) this coming September to see if this is possible.



Here are two Google Earth images - just for a wider view of the intersection:


Does this person have a shadow - in her shaded area? ( "X" is the location of the fireman in the Naudet video)


I also think it is highly doubtful that someone painted that white stripe during the time supposedly elapsed between the Naudet image and the Vigilante image. And no, it is not any sort of reflection (bricks tend to reflect very poorly): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwKQXsXJDX4



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But of course - there are countless other problems with the Naudet's "FLIGHT11 strike" video clip - such as...





THE PLANE FACTS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkZKOqYMbXo

[Equinox]

This shadow is possible, because the only source of light for this fireman is reflection of the sun on the buildings and yes- you can have the shadow in the shadow-go on the street and check it out. Same shadow has the man crossing the road. There is no sign of the green screen.

Pawelos,

I think it is highly doubtful that the building would bounce off enough light to make these crisp leg shadows - in a shaded area.
But we could always travel to NYC (Lispenard St / Church St intersection) this coming September to see if this is possible.



Here are two Google Earth images - just for a wider view of the intersection:


Does this person have a shadow - in her shaded area? ( "X" is the location of the fireman in the Naudet video)

Boom! Thanks for showing this...Simon. Yes It really answered my question to this quite some time ago as well .... I was looking for these photos They are here viewtopic.php?f=17&t=807&start=45 ( also I think they debunk a september clues thread) can you re-direct me to that debunk thread?

Lets not also forget the other Naudet/Vigilante differences...

[Equinox]

This shadow is possible, because the only source of light for this fireman is reflection of the sun on the buildings and yes- you can have the shadow in the shadow-go on the street and check it out. Same shadow has the man crossing the road. There is no sign of the green screen.

Pawelos,

I think it is highly doubtful that the building would bounce off enough light to make these crisp leg shadows - in a shaded area.
But we could always travel to NYC (Lispenard St / Church St intersection) this coming September to see if this is possible.



Here are two Google Earth images - just for a wider view of the intersection:


Does this person have a shadow - in her shaded area? ( "X" is the location of the fireman in the Naudet video)

9-11 WTC Attacks Original Sound. Steve Vigilante

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwKQXsXJDX4

Quote:
“Some footage I shot on 9-11-01. This is never before seen footage and has never been released. I chose to upload it because I feel it has historical importance.”
Here is a Shot from the video.

Released 2010-
Here is a Shot from the video.




911 WTC Naudet first strike full

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBphzj7h9J8

2001--- Naudet first strike.

Quote:
The red-versus-white discrepancies observed above cannot be ascribed to any chromatic distortion or white-balance issues

I believe a little while back reel deal And I worked out the truck is in the same spot but everything is thrown out of perpspective. That was correct reel?

[Brutal Metal]

Has anyone seen the new photo collage of Enterprise's final flight? Kind of weird they chose the New York skyline as a location One question I do have? The airliner that it's docked to is quite decipherable from a distance, you can see the color,windows,etc.. even though there's quite a bit of cloud cover. The footage we've seen of 911 doesn't have Any photos So clear?

http://news.yahoo.com/space-shuttle-ent ... 42158.html

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[Brutal Metal]

HaHa NICE reel deal, I like the GIF you made!

[pov603]

Can someone living near Manhattan go to this location in the coming early Sep' 2012 and take a photo from the same vantage as Naudet did and see if someone crossing the street casts a shadow going the wrong way?

It may need a few tries on different days with cloud cover etc but may be worth the 'experiment' to see what transpires.

[SmokingGunII]

No need, Pov. It can't happen in the real world. Like I've said before, watch the guy crossing the road in the Naudet video. He doesn't look up once, which is strange when you think there should be a 737 reaming it's way over his head at less than a 1000 feet high!

[Equinox]

No need, Pov. It can't happen in the real world. Like I've said before, watch the guy crossing the road in the Naudet video. He doesn't look up once, which is strange when you think there should be a 737 reaming it's way over his head at less than a 1000 feet high!

Smokey, Thats a very smart answer and very spot on.
Simon made a REALISTIC epic audio /video of what a real plane top speed into a sky scraper would sound like...
Turn the speakers up..
http://blip.tv/september-clues/fly-over ... ng-2520214

Also what the plane would at least closely look like to....


Hey smokey you and I, have both tried to record a plane flying over head just by glancing up. It's impossible with out shaking and losing sight of it.. check it out.... And the plane looks real because it is real. The soundtrack is more louder than the naudet video and was flying twice as high and also the engines only revving on half the speed 240 mph.
Speakers up

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVNgZwFVzdQ

[Equinox]

Simon, I am not sure this particular part of synched out was added to the movie by you ( because I cannot seem to see it on any others.) Or if someone else has added it to your video.


But It got me thinking about this shot...



And after a few days researching it. You are 100% correct about the background NOT appearing in the CNN shot.
I have verified all views and compared the closest I can find using angles in real life and using to scale 3D land scape.

The background from across the Hudson River SHOULD be there.






Extra Extra read all about it!!!!...
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