The Moon Hoax

If NASA faked the moon landings, does the agency have any credibility at all? Was the Space Shuttle program also a hoax? Is the International Space Station another hoax? Do not dismiss these hypotheses offhand. Check out our wider NASA research.

Re: The Moon Hoax

Postby reel.deal on April 21st, 2012, 10:50 pm

icarusinbound wrote:Am I alone in noticing that, with the passage of time A11->A17, as well as increases in mission duration/curious lunar hardware/color movies, there seems to be a matched incremental increase in astronot insanity? Wilder driving of the Rover, more pseudo-drunken tumbles, more crowd-pleasing bunnyhops? - if I'd never seen or heard these guys in action before, the group I'd identify them as belonging to would be...
civil airline pilots with incomplete science diplomas smoking weed on a golf course... Image

... it took six missions before TPTB decided to include the first-ever geologist on the last-ever visit to The Moon Image
(says the Smithsonian...)...pity that he seems to be acting as if he's got a bong hidden inside his PLSS. Image

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: The Moon Hoax

Postby hollycrap on April 21st, 2012, 11:14 pm

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Re: The Moon Hoax

Postby hollycrap on April 21st, 2012, 11:29 pm

Apollo 17 astronut bumps against background screen as a spotlight is intensified and camera panned for the clanger to be less conspicuous

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I know reel we have been into this one but it is very funny :)
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Postby hollycrap on April 22nd, 2012, 3:19 am

So we thought the only LM lift offs from the moon recorded were those for Apollo 15 16 and 17? WRONG!!!

Here is the Apollo 11 lift-off from the moon, believe it or not, leaving a distinctive jet plume behind, contrary to its successors, :o -- of course all of them are fake :)

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Apollo 11 LM lift-off, Apollo 15 LM lift-off and Apollo 17 LM lift-off

Strangely, the plume got extinguished once the ascent stage of the Apolllo 11 LM ran to meet the command module awaiting patiently for its fake mate

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full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNPcbQnEZ2o

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Re: The Moon Hoax

Postby whatsgoingon on April 22nd, 2012, 6:19 am

Someone should see if NASA's polygon model of the Apollo 15 landing site contains the hoax easter egg described in this video. I do not have the software:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AD_Rh84ddh8
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Postby reel.deal on April 22nd, 2012, 8:50 am

whatsgoingon wrote:Someone should see if NASA's polygon model of the Apollo 15 landing site contains the
hoax easter egg described in this video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AD_Rh84ddh8 :huh: :blink: :o


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Re: The Moon Hoax

Postby reel.deal on April 22nd, 2012, 11:17 am

An inconsistent lem

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKK8COoVWX4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKK8COoVWX4
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You get transparent when you are on the moon?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQgWzAXj ... re=related

An update to Apollo weird electronics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsZOaP3j ... ure=relmfu

Apollo mad computer program (Part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0h2z_-Z ... ure=relmfu

Apollo: How the Lem is guided
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KURtOV5p ... ure=relmfu

The big lie of the Apollo reflectors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&featu ... OeFnemVm0o

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Apollogists HATE this guy...

hunchbacked
http://www.youtube.com/user/hunchbacked?feature=watch

About Chaîne de hunchbacked
heres his website...

http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/xpascal/

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Re: The Moon Hoax

Postby hollycrap on April 22nd, 2012, 12:57 pm

whatsgoingon wrote:Someone should see if NASA's polygon model of the Apollo 15 landing site contains the hoax easter egg described in this video. I do not have the software:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AD_Rh84ddh8


First we should find the model, though it looks authentic, unsourced evidence (and even sourced) always gives PANS ammunition to turn their heads away, or act out a tantrum.

See if you can find anything here

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/images15.html#Maps

Holla if you do :lol:
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Postby hollycrap on April 22nd, 2012, 2:08 pm

The inconsistent lem in the Apollo 17 famous sequence discovered by White, can be better visualized using a 3D LM model

I used this model at google sketchup

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ ... 05261195d5

The LM virtually stops rotating roughly at the third frame from the start of the sequence. The illusion of rotation is achieved by the rotating landscape behind and paint ins (if the whole LM is not a paint in itself) by 1960's graphical artists.

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Re: The Moon Hoax

Postby whatsgoingon on April 22nd, 2012, 5:20 pm

I wish I knew what to look for to find the polygon model of A15 landing. Although my inner B.S.-o-meter says that anyone could have laced the file with the fun phrase: "The Moon Landing was a Hoax" :o
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Postby hollycrap on April 22nd, 2012, 9:26 pm

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Reel I made this 3D gif of the the rotating LEM from the perspective of The inconsistent lem in the Apollo 17 sequence above,

Can you try to fit it into the sequence to see how it really should have been seen rotating, :o ---- currently I don't have Photoshop available and working with gimp is extremely painful :(
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Postby hollycrap on April 22nd, 2012, 10:05 pm

The cardboard model of the Apollo 16 ascent stage does not seem to fit the ascent stage of the google sketchup 3D Model :o

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Re: The Moon Hoax

Postby hollycrap on April 23rd, 2012, 4:13 am

hollycrap wrote:The cardboard model of the Apollo 16 ascent stage does not seem to fit the ascent stage of the google sketchup 3D Model :o

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Well, in fact the cardboard model of the Ascent stage of Apollo 16, does not fit the same ascent stage seen on the surface of "The Moon", from the same side, -- AS16-113-18332

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AS16-113-18329HR

which take us to the untold mystery of ...

WHO VANDALIZED APOLLO 16's ASCENT STAGE?

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According to NASA, the problem were the "thermal blankets" :lol: but the thermal blankets underneath appeared intact :rolleyes:

nasa wrote:The ascent stage engine fired as planned and Young and Duke rode the Ascent Stage to orbit. Orion's radar locked onto Casper at a range exceeding 150 miles, and a near perfect rendezvous was achieved. At this point both spacecraft again passed out of sight from Houston around the Moon. When they next rounded the Moon, the two spacecraft were less than six kilometres apart, but a planned TV broadcast of the docking operation proved impossible because of the faulty high gain antenna on the Lunar Module. Young and Duke then inspected Casper's SIM Bay to see if they could determine why some of the experiment were not functioning as planned. Ken Mattingly carried out a similar examination of Orion, noticing that the outer thermal blankets on the rear of the Lunar Module were badly damaged, and hanging off the spacecraft. These had been torn loose at engine ignition on the surface the Moon, but the thermal blankets underneath appeared to be intact.


+> = http://history.nasa.gov/ap16fj/a16summary.htm
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Postby icarusinbound on April 23rd, 2012, 7:43 am

A bit of lateral thinking regarding the supposed LM shots...although the Smithsonian says I'm not allowed directly show the picture here, or copy it, here's a link to a picture of LEM2 on their website http://www.nasm.si.edu/webimages/640/99-15232_640.jpg

Significantly, this isn't displayed as a copy...it's described as being real:

http://www.nasm.si.edu/exhibitions/gal112/ wrote:This is an actual lunar module, one of 12 built for Project Apollo. It was meant to be used in low Earth orbit to test the techniques of separation, rendezvous, and docking with the command and service module. The second of two such test vehicles, its mission was cancelled because of the complete success of the first flight.


How about if someone in the current was to take a sequence of photometric digital pictures of this exhibit, and use them in an attempt at reconciling this existing reality with depicted images from the era? Because here's my angle on this: let's say 12 LMs were actually physically made, and at least half of them are now destroyed on re-entry (or otherwise disposed of, to convince non-insider NASA operatives)....what might the chances be that at least one of the LMs that has become curated as an a museum piece is actually one of the craft that was used in the staged supposed lunar photoshoots? I do remember also seeing one down at the Science Museum in London, so along with the Smithsonian one, so that's a minimum of two.

Does anyone follow my logic on this? If there are subtle technical differences identified, build modifications/upgrades, absent/present thrusters/dishes/antennas, it might be possible with the expertise of Hollycrap and reel to match a curated museum piece as actually being the specific vehicle depicted in the shots for, say A12, by it's physical signature. Then the evidence against the Apollo project becomes a 22ft high 4ton metal bug, rather than a picture.....

And talking of which....has anyone seen any Official Story pictures of the Nots in training, at the Declared Training Location, including shots of them with the LM? I'm very interested to see what they look like, or indeed if such images exist, because if they look too much like Official Story pictures of the land-away, that's hugely significant, and if they look radically different, that's also important, because there'd have been no reason for them to be 'wrong' (or too visually divergent from the published portfolios), due to all that supposedly accurate photo intel and data that'd been gathered by the Surveyor and fly-by missions.

And what are we to make of the amazing A11 lunar take-off shots, the BBC ones with Robin Day (a British Cronkite, you might say). Looks like some very period Fritz Lang/Dan Dare emulsion-scratch animation to me. Plus the other pre-A17 'lunar departures' footage? This is a total surprise to me...I've no recollection of having seen these at the time, nor in the intervening years
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Postby hollycrap on April 23rd, 2012, 1:33 pm

Icarus that photo in the Smithsonian seems to be distorted and/or skewed. However there are a couple of Apollo pics that coincidentally seem to be also skewed and distorted showing the Lunar Lander, one from Apollo 11 and one from Apollo 14.

This one from Apollo 11

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Compare with this front view of Apollo 11 LM ascent stage in the Command Module rendezvous sequence. You can almost see a nut in the window .

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and this one from 14

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