The Moon Hoax

[reel.deal]

[icarusinbound]

icarus, it would be nice to catch a transcript reference to an earth rise from the moon's surface, because as we have seen above there are no earth rises on the Moon.

Having searched all the Apollo LM transcripts for the word/words "earthrise", there only appear to be a couple of references...but this is when the LM/CM combo is in orbit, rather than when it's...let just say stationary. Intriguingly, there's no A11 LM transcript...curious. I've not sifted through what they call the 'Tec Ground-to-Air' documents, yet. Usefully, the version of Adobe Reader I've got on this machine is early enough to do a wordsearch across multiple documents, and that facility is either missing or too 'streamlined' to let me do it in Reader v.10 and onwards.

I wonder where did they store all that fuel for first braking fully loaded CM/LM into Moon orbit and then, after LM had spent 23 244.1 lb of fuel going down to/up from Moon, and second accelerating almost empty CM/LM 6000 kmh out of the Moon orbit ... to get home.

Twenty-three thousand pounds of thrust, or 23,244 lb dead-weight of fuel?

If it's fuel quanities...I know that the energy densities for actual rocket fuel/oxidisers etc will be vastly higher than for gasoline, but let's just do some crazy arithmetic estimates using gasolene/petroleum. Taking an over-simplified weight-to-volume figure of 7lb per gallon (that's just a guesstimate gallon, which I'll take as mid-way in volume between a US mini-gallon and an imperial big-gallon) would equate to 3,320 gallons- or say 14 m^3. Assuming an isometric container, this alone would have a WxHxD of 2.4m (which happens to be about the minimum height for most domestic floor-to-ceilings)....which is clearly impossible, since we're talking about the available fuel storage capabilities of the CM, not a Saturn V. Would someone please take apart what I've worked-out, here, as it's just careful semi-logical guesswork....

[Mickey]

Sadly coming to realize that the whole "Chandrayaan" mission was a giant hoax in itself too.

http://www.isro.org/satellites/moonimages.aspx

from wickedpedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandrayaan-1

The Terrain mapping camera on board Chandrayaan-1 , besides producing more than 70,000 three dimensional images, has recorded images of the landing site of US spacecraft Apollo 15, rubbishing conspiracy theories that the US mission to land on the moon four decades back was a hoax.[90][91]

^^ ^^

[reel.deal]

i wouldnt be so harsh... Chandrayaan-1 really did try its best...
unfortunately its always exceptionally difficult for a sat-cam to
focus on planet Earth after drinking spirits heavily all night...

[hollycrap]

Check this one out...



And this one is the moon seen from my backyard with a telephoto lens.

[AnonymousTruther2]

Let's face it. Traveling into space is not possible. But that's a blessing. Otherwise they would have mounted
millions of bombs and war paraphernalia on all kinds of spacecraft. This makes me feel more safe

Everything is a farce.

hollycrap... hope you're up for having a look at the Nuke Hoax thread sometime,
check this vid out for starters, be interested to hear your thoughts...
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=452

The Nuclear Bomb Hoax - TV Fakery and PSYOP

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXxIhWIdhW8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXxIhWIdhW8

LOL! Wow! Lots of "my" videos are promoted. That's nice. Thanks. I'll try to keep this channel alive and not shut downed like all the others.

[reel.deal]

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Theres LOADS of people ANNIHILATING the Apollo Moon Landings Myth. i read recently somewhere approx 7% of Americans and a 1/4 of Brits reckon the Moon Landings are fake. sounds about right. us jaded 'cynical' Brits are naturally more averse to Mickey Mouse Toy Storys from the
land of 'make believe' bullshit, from just across 'the pond'...
The research here though is 'boldly going where no mans been before' - just like the MOON - which is great. Its starting to take the form of a holding pen where all the best fakery-proof is being extracted from all sources and pooled and collated together.
The better the Apollo Moon missions are trashed here, then all the better anyone who bothers to take an interest can easily see the countless irreconcilable incongruities. i.e. FAKE written all over it; wrote LARGE in red, so to speak...
So before 1984 gets approved and the UK govt legally keeps all my calls, voicemails, texts, emails, bar-tabs etc to use against me,
and while i still have some gifs riding high in google image 'fakery' searches, before the UK & google censor it all, 'China style',
theres never gonna be a better time to get close to 'wrapping this up', nailing it down, for once & for all.
I regard the Moon Landings as the best 'IN' into fakery exposure, then from there, its not such a stretch for 'regular joe' to have his curiosity piqued enough to then look at, say, 'Nukes', then maybe, say '9/11'...
the whole house of cards...
viva la resolution!

[Farcevalue]

Sadly coming to realize that the whole "Chandrayaan" mission was a giant hoax in itself too.

http://www.isro.org/satellites/moonimages.aspx

from wickedpedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandrayaan-1

The Terrain mapping camera on board Chandrayaan-1 , besides producing more than 70,000 three dimensional images, has recorded images of the landing site of US spacecraft Apollo 15, rubbishing conspiracy theories that the US mission to land on the moon four decades back was a hoax.[90][91]

^^ ^^

I found this line from the article interesting as well:

"Over a two-year period, it was intended to survey the lunar surface to produce a complete map of its chemical characteristics and three-dimensional topography."

Hmm, 30 years after people were walking all over that thing, we may finally get an idea of what it looks like and is made of. Perhaps I should get a crew out to the lot where the house I have been living in for 10 years is built to do a study and see if the land is inhabitable. If they would have brought some surveying equipment instead of golf clubs, we could have saved a bundle!

[hollycrap]

^ ^ ^

Theres LOADS of people ANNIHILATING the Apollo Moon Landings Myth. i read recently somewhere approx 7% of Americans and a 1/4 of Brits reckon the Moon Landings are fake. sounds about right. us jaded 'cynical' Brits are naturally more averse to Mickey Mouse Toy Storys from the
land of 'make believe' bullshit, from just across 'the pond'...
The research here though is 'boldly going where no mans been before' - just like the MOON - which is great. Its starting to take the form of a holding pen where all the best fakery-proof is being extracted from all sources and pooled and collated together.
The better the Apollo Moon missions are trashed here, then all the better anyone who bothers to take an interest can easily see the countless irreconcilable incongruities. i.e. FAKE written all over it; wrote LARGE in red, so to speak...
So before 1984 gets approved and the UK govt legally keeps all my calls, voicemails, texts, emails, bar-tabs etc to use against me,
and while i still have some gifs riding high in google image 'fakery' searches, before the UK & google censor it all, 'China style',
theres never gonna be a better time to get close to 'wrapping this up', nailing it down, for once & for all.
I regard the Moon Landings as the best 'IN' into fakery exposure, then from there, its not such a stretch for 'regular joe' to have his curiosity piqued enough to then look at, say, 'Nukes', then maybe, say '9/11'...
the whole house of cards...
viva la resolution!

Hopefully soon everybody will know The agencies are advertising a modern myth ....



https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Moon_Landings_Hoax

[hollycrap]

Auto incriminating evidence

Apollo 11 Video & telemetry gone


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0hsMJj9Q-A

Dismiss the part of the reflector: it's well known that you can bounce a laser on the Moon with no reflectors on the Moon's surface at all, it's been done routinely since the early 1960's.

[icarusinbound]

Auto incriminating evidence

Apollo 11 Video & telemetry gone


Dismiss the part of the reflector: it's well known that you can bounce a laser on the Moon with no reflectors on the Moon's surface at all, it's been done routinely since the early 1960's.

Hold on- this is totally in conflict with the pseudoscientific excuse that Apollo Apoligists were being reported here as using, to explain the unlikely lighting/infill illumination throughout the lunar landing photographic record. Whilst I haven't seen a reference cited here on Clues as to exactly where this 'non retro-reflective' property of moon minerals is touted, this can't be claimed by supporters of the Official Story to be non-Newtonian up close, and then utterly conventional at a distance. Even they couldn't support that level of micro/macro split-brain contradiction.

The YouTube imbed for a 'Did We Go' movie...it's a bit folksy. Why aren't the Apollogistian scientists being more defensive? Why wasn't the Archives Curator at Goddard being adversorally cornered? "ok, so you guys have tragically lost all the telemetry from man's first-ever boots-down trip to the Moon...how safe are the other five sets, and can we please borrow some showreels for peer review on Clues Forum".

Has the film been made? Do we now have a parallel to the WTC societal conjuring trick of TPTP-supported disinformation false debunking? Why did I get a bad feeling of infotainment superficiality and dramatic production values from that video? There was an implicit shared joke dimension to what we saw there, and it smells bad. This was as non-incisive as a Discovery Channel Ghosthunter-type 'investigation'. Too much clapper-board and face-powder, not enough burning torches and pitchforks.

[Howie]

The laser reflector does nothing to prove man went there, unmanned surveyer probes could put it there.

If that's the best proof Jay windley & his trolls can come up with then I want to see Neil Armstrong swearing on the bible.

[nonhocapito]

The YouTube imbed for a 'Did We Go' movie...it's a bit folksy. Why aren't the Apollogistian scientists being more defensive? Why wasn't the Archives Curator at Goddard being adversorally cornered? "ok, so you guys have tragically lost all the telemetry from man's first-ever boots-down trip to the Moon...how safe are the other five sets, and can we please borrow some showreels for peer review on Clues Forum".

I tend to agree with you, it gives me the same feeling as Sibrel's videos with the bible prop & harassed actornauts. (Previously discussed in this thread here and subsequent posts: viewtopic.php?p=2363523#p2363523) Why would NASA leave their guys out in the lurch like that? Why should NASA admit anything is missing to a random guy with a camera? How do you even gain access to a center that holds FAKE information? Of course nobody who is not a friend is really allowed to get there and see the empty shelves...

[EDIT: re-reading today my statements about Sibrel's videos, I must correct them in even stronger terms: I am even more convinced that Sibrel is a paid agent and a shill! Not only for the absurd bible prop; not just for the ability he shows to approach all these actornauts; not simply for his harassing, revolting demeanor; but because the "leaked" footage of "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" cannot be real leaked footage! The footage shows astronauts really in space, in low orbit around the earth: but we know there are a lot of reasons to doubt any Apollo launch ever even happened! If this is true, either Sibrel was fooled, or his work must be pure disinfo...]

[Farcevalue]

Of course nobody who is not a friend is really allowed to get there and see the empty shelves...

I've heard this is why Fort Knox is under such heavy guard.

[simonshack]

[EDIT: re-reading today my statements about Sibrel's videos, I must correct them in even stronger terms: I am almost sure Sibrel is a paid agent and a shill! Not only for the absurd bible prop; not just for the ability he shows to approach all these actornauts; not simply for his harassing, revolting demeanor; but because the "leaked" footage of "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" cannot be real leaked footage! It cannot be real at all, since it shows the astronauts really in space, in low orbit around the earth, when now we know there are a lot of reasons to think that no Apollo launch ever even happened!
If this is true, Sibrel's work must be pure disinfo...]

Dear Nonho,

Precisely my thoughts. But I wouldn't quite call the Sibrel antics "disinfo". I think we need a NEW term for the stuff that Sibrel does. May I hazard to propose a neologism for it? I'd call it "defuso" - as in: "the act of defusing a widespread rumor/revelation (concerning, for instance, a top-secret government hoax) which threatens to expand and explosively expose a given, highly-sensitive secret to a wider, critical mass."

In other words, Bart Sibrel's "astronaught stalkings" are meant to defuse the widely diffused anger that large numbers of Americans have nurtured/accumulated for decades towards the professional NASA liars. Everyone of them would like to punch those liars on the nose (yet Bart - just like in the cartoons - when harassing Buzz, gets punched on the nose himself!)

"Defuso". Hope you like it.