Costa Concordia incident, Friday 13 Jan 2012

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Re: Costa Concordia

Postby brianv on February 11th, 2012, 2:39 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldd0Fis-_Pg

:rolleyes: comment

It's become embedded into mythology already
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Re: Costa Concordia

Postby Heiwa on February 11th, 2012, 7:32 pm

If anybody can explain how you locally damage the vertical side from 1 m below waterline down to the bilge of any ship without damaging the bottom/running aground, I will update http://heiwaco.tripod.com/news8.htm#S accordingly.
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Was the big stone (?) we see in the side of Costa Concordia, like a rotten iceberg, floating just below the water before knocking itself in the side? :rolleyes: :P
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Re: Costa Concordia

Postby Heiwa on February 11th, 2012, 9:43 pm

Here is a funny simulation by somebody of CC ripping open its bottom ... but not the side 1 m below waterline.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GCUpkrU67s



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(ADMIN NOTICE fixed the YT link :O) -simon)
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Re: Costa Concordia

Postby nonhocapito on February 11th, 2012, 9:49 pm

Heiwa wrote:What part of above shall be copied/pasted into [Youtube][/Youtube]? I have tried all possibilites except ... ?


The "ID" part of the youtube address is the one that comes after "watch?v="

For example in this case you have
youtube.com/watch?v=-GCUpkrU67s&feature=related
The part that you want to use is -GCUpkrU67s
The &feature=related part and following is not always present. The ID can often be the ending part of the address which makes it all easier. But just consider that the = is where you begin and the & is where you stop copying it.

so, this

Code: Select all
[youtube]-GCUpkrU67s[/youtube]

will work:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GCUpkrU67s

you're welcome :)

Er, in exchange can I ask you to comment on the video taken on the bridge that I posted previously?(visible here: http://video.repubblica.it/dossier/nauf ... 7851/86244)
In your knowledge, is it normal procedure in an emergency to have a person standing there on the bridge doing nothing except filming everyone else? Why would that be done?
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Re: Costa Concordia

Postby Heiwa on February 12th, 2012, 2:26 am

The bridge video looks real. It is suggested the Moldovan dancer aboard is filming (if she is a real person?). Ship doesn't heel much and the watertight doors are open. Then they abandon the ship ... ship still not heeling much. You can still walk on the decks. It becomes very difficult when heel is >18°. The angle of heel can maybe be used to time events?
Thanks for explanation about youtube ID.
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Re: Costa Concordia

Postby fbenario on February 12th, 2012, 2:53 am

Heiwa wrote:The bridge video looks real. It is suggested the Moldovan dancer aboard is filming (if she is a real person?). Ship doesn't heel much and the watertight doors are open. Then they abandon the ship ... ship still not heeling much. You can still walk on the decks. It becomes very difficult when heel is >18°. The angle of heel can maybe be used to time events?
Thanks for explanation about youtube ID.

What proof do you have that any people at all were on this stupid broken boat when it keeled over? How do you know it wasn't already broken, and on its side, when it was towed into place?
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Re: Costa Concordia

Postby simonshack on February 12th, 2012, 2:31 pm

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Re: Costa Concordia

Postby icarusinbound on February 12th, 2012, 6:23 pm



Simon, that has to be the most unrealistic picture *ever*! She looks like a ghost, half-emerging from the ship's wheel...whoever botched-up that composite should be ashamed of their lack of artistic ability.

However...I maybe had a genuine multi-layer Eureka moment this morning....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_(word) wrote: (The ancient Greek scholar Archimedes)...reportedly proclaimed "Eureka!" when he stepped into a bath and noticed that the water level rose—he suddenly understood that the volume of water displaced must be equal to the volume of the part of his body he had submerged. This relation is known as Archimedes' principle.


Suppose the Concordia (or indeed the Sharden...or, similarly the Hudson miracle) were not entirely what the PTB/MSM claimed they were. So, at least, less people/survivors, and a desire to reduce all 'uncontrolled scale variables'.

And a major common factor in all of these 'incidents' is fuel, carried/consumed, and the surrounding water.

If there was any degree of orchestration involved in these events, it would have made a lot of sense for the physical quantity of fuel being held onboard all these floating puzzles to be the absolute minimum required to complete the set-piece manouvre being carried out. There has been some limited mention of Italian naval personnel attempting to de-fuel the Concordia, in order to avoid any kind of additional environmental...BP-style...catastrophe...but, that aside, I wonder if that is just a press-release to provide a back-story?

Is there any way in which a maritime expert such as Heiwa could look at stills pictures of the Concordia, pre-rollover, to estimate whether or not the ship was riding much higher in the water than it should have been, for the amount of fuel that should have been on-board for the extected duration/length of the Med cruise? I mean compared to previous pictures, taken when the Concordia was fully fuelled for the same trip it was meant to be embarked upon.

All Hollywood stunts involving engines use minimal quantities of fuel. Avoidance of fire and pollution, whether on-set or on-psyop, is surely a good idea.

But might it leave an undeniable signature in any base context-setting imagery? I'm meaning straight porthole-to-water measurement, or plimsoll displacement??

Does anyone else follow my logic on this??


Heiwa wrote:
simonshack wrote:I have a question for Heiwa - our experienced naval engineer on board :

So my question would be: Is it plausible that the ship somehow drifted sideways and away from the shore as it sank?


I ask that question and others on my popular web page http://heiwaco.tripod.com/news8.htm .

First, why is the floating, stable ship M/S Costa Concordia heeling to starboard on the photos or why is the ship M/S Costa Concordia heeling at all? OK, the M/S Costa Concordia is trimming on the stern (more on later photos) because the damage/flooded compartments were aft, but there is no reason why the M/S Costa Concordia should heel! Why doesn't the upright M/S Costa Concordia sink uprigth on stern and come to rest on the sea floor ... and remain upright with slight port list? The sea floor is sloping in the other direction (port) so if the ship sinks on the port sloping bottom it would heel to port ... but still remain on the bottom. And be easy to re-float, etc.

Everything is very misty! Ship flying by by night of small island (all people on island sleeping) and ripping open port bilge. Strange. Very strange! Ship's voyage data recorder that is supposed to record everything aboard was then not working since long! Ship owner then immediately accusing the Master of incompetence, etc, etc.

I look forward to the Italian incident investigation and its report.
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Re: Costa Concordia

Postby brianv on February 12th, 2012, 7:17 pm



Captain Skate is a skate, one who shirks his duty.
Capatin Skate is a "ladies man", a gigolo, at Giglio in fact
Captain Skate will skate to avoid prosecution (slang to abscond.)
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Re: Costa Concordia

Postby whatsgoingon on February 12th, 2012, 7:47 pm

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Re: Costa Concordia

Postby whatsgoingon on February 12th, 2012, 8:01 pm

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Re: Costa Concordia

Postby RoyBean on February 13th, 2012, 9:15 am



So...is this meant as a fucking joke? will it soon come out that this pic was a hoax even though the rumor is 'true' ? way too obvious these amateurs are frequent visitors to this forum.

Ugh... the more I look at this dumb shit.... È tutto così profondamente stupido !
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Re: Costa Concordia

Postby reel.deal on February 13th, 2012, 10:30 am


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the original, that the fake derives from ?
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Re: Costa Concordia

Postby nonhocapito on February 13th, 2012, 6:40 pm

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