OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Discussing the most relevant "sequels" or "reminders" of 9/11. The so-called "War On Terror" appears to be a global scam finalized to control and manipulate this world's population with fearmongering tactics.

Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Postby traumabasedmindcontr on February 10th, 2012, 12:23 am

traumabasedmindcontr wrote:
Heiwa wrote:ABB is showing off today at Oslo:
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Source: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslo ... d=10077840


Who writes this stuff!?? On the above page, we read:

- Etter det jeg forstår, var dette en hilsen rettet mot det høyreekstreme miljøet, for at det ikke skulle være tvil om hvilket miljø han tilhører, sier Breiviks forsvare Vibeke Hein Bæra til VGTV etter rettsmøtet.
(- From what I can understand, this was a "salute" directed to circles of the "right-wing", so that there would be no discussion as to his political affiliation, says Breiviks defender Vibeke Hein Bæra to VGTV after the proceedings.)

Can it ever be said clearer than this? We are not watching genuine human beings, acting in "authentic" ways. What we are are watching is a "production", where what is acted out is carefully calculated to give desired responses. There is no authentic "Breivik". There is only the created image of Breivik - who is now our very own scandinavian "Immanuel Goldstein", there for us to project our hate towards.



I'm quoting myself, just to add the following: It appears - at least to me - as if the "Breivik as conservative extremist"-story might have been a little bit too confusing for many in the intended audience. Therefore, in the very first moments of "Breiviks" apperance before us (after months of absence) he performes a stylized nazi-salute (and for those of us who didn't understand Breiviks gestures as such, his defenders are there to reassure us that that was indeed what we saw). With this Breiviks turn as "conservative extremist" is effectively over, leaving us to ponder why he put together a 1 500-page Manifesto, describing himself as not being a "traditional right-winger".
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Postby icarusinbound on February 10th, 2012, 1:14 am

traumabasedmindcontr wrote:Therefore, in the very first moments of "Breiviks" apperance before us (after months of absence) he performes a stylized nazi-salute
Should that Right-wing salute not be flat-palmed? This gesture almost looks more like Black Panther...or even Stonewall :wub: .

A question relating to official Norwegian Police handcuffs: in the 'initial capture' shots, and in court, ABB is shown as being restrained (barely) with classic ultra-basic chain-link handcuffs (S&W style), the cowboy type much-beloved in US cop movies.

Is this actually the type used everywhere in Norway? I think the (partially-bilocating) officers seen in the city shots appear to have the small belt-pouches consistent with the cowboy/chained type, but a cross-reference with experiential reality would be good (ideally not from a detained Norwegian...an informed one will do fine). I can't find a picture from the island images that shows the type apparently being carried by the 'capture team'....

I'm surprised that the initial Utoya grab-team (and also the court officers) didn't have him in rigid-linked restraint cuffs, Hiatt-style..like thisImage.
Are these not used at all in the country??

And in court: a multi-murderer permitted to wear a neck-tie...seriously? An device for suicide, or murderous strangulation, in a potential court hostage stand-off: why?

Whilst the accused perhaps needs the right to...appear...to look to be 'respectable' in court, ABB's whole dressed look is far too... manicured. You might say, almost manufactured.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Postby traumabasedmindcontr on February 10th, 2012, 3:27 am

icarusinbound wrote:
traumabasedmindcontr wrote:Therefore, in the very first moments of "Breiviks" apperance before us (after months of absence) he performes a stylized nazi-salute
Should that Right-wing salute not be flat-palmed?


I did say "stylized".

http://www.vg.no/bildespesial/spesial.php?id=8659
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Postby nonhocapito on February 10th, 2012, 4:22 am

The sign made no sense, really. it almost make you think they had an actual person and not a digital creation to act this thing, maybe a morphed-over doped actor that messed up. Or they are just messing with us. Or they are playing rock paper scissors again.

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Postby Maat on February 10th, 2012, 10:20 am

Nice faux-to collection @ http://www.vg.no/bildespesial/spesial.php?id=8659 — Scanpix, Reuters & AFP all represented.
They even included Exif metadata for that touch of 'authenticity' :P

Funny thing is, they don't need color levels changed to see how unreal they are.
[right click to view full size]
e.g. 'I heart you, big guy!' :rolleyes: — funky 'shadows' (written note on cop's palm?) & what are the white lines on Andersim's wrists supposed to be?
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" Behring Anders Breivik incarceration meeting on Monday. Photo: AFP PHOTO / DANIEL SANNUM LAUTEN"
Jeffrey's Exif data (no camera): http://regex.info/exif.cgi?b=3&referer= ... .85419.jpg

Classic white cut-out lines in this one can be seen without darkening to highlight it:

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"Anders Behring Breivik i retten hvor han fotograferes frivillig for første gang siden den 22 juli. Forsvarerne Geir Lippested og Vibeke Hein Bæra. TROND SOLBERG/VG"

Jeffrey's Exif data (camera, but no flash): http://regex.info/exif.cgi?b=3&referer= ... .61356.jpg
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Postby simonshack on February 10th, 2012, 11:24 am

PROFESSIONAL VIDEO CAMERA RESOLUTION?
Well, Maat - they seem to be slightly better at crafting still images - than when they try to dabble in animation...

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:lol: :lol: :lol:
This is hilarious. I have never quite seen something as bad as this.

AND NO - this has NOTHING TO DO with "poor Youtube .flv video compression" - since the TV banner text is quite crisp and dedined.

source video: (feel free to pause the video at different places - and verify for yourself.)

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_n__5rqK2A



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( Only the "LIBYA STREET PROTEST" imagery 'beats' the farcical "Breivik in courtroom" monstrosity: )
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Postby Makkonen on February 10th, 2012, 12:50 pm

http://www.vg.no/bildespesial/spesial.php?id=8659


Hey, this is gravely disappointing!
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Where is the famous multi-windowed black car we fell in love with?
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Postby Makkonen on February 10th, 2012, 1:54 pm

Continuing from
http://www.vg.no/bildespesial/spesial.php?id=8659 ...

KALEIDOSCOPE

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Is such a drastic change in color tones supposed to be possible and/or acceptable in legit photographs?

However, these are the worst offender...
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A light show in the tunnel? :huh:

But I guess that might have been one of Anders' requirements, seeing as he's got the moves...
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"Do the disco!"
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Postby Kentrailer on February 10th, 2012, 5:47 pm

Thanks to nonhocapito, we have our first completely obvious screw-up recognized- the non syncing camera flashes.

I added a few of "his" pictures for comparison, showing they are shopped, and quick reminder of how advanced CGI is getting:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxYNrTyf7_A
Norwegian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec8W_mSR70U (hope some Norwegians see this, not sure what tags to use exactly).

I'm still waiting for the next obvious give-away, but for me, the camera flashes not syncing really is solid evidence.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Postby Heiwa on February 10th, 2012, 6:30 pm

Today the Oslo law court decided further action around ABB!
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks ... 59474.html
Two new experts, Terje Tørrisen and Agnar Aspaas, shall in a neutral way (?) observe ABB 24h/day, 4 weeks, to find out if he is healthy or mad and in writing report to the law court. ABB has informed he will not cooperate. :o

If ABB intends to commit suicide, as I expect him to do :P , he has to do it when Terje Tørrisen and Agnar Aspaas look on! B)
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Postby I@N on February 10th, 2012, 11:56 pm

His eyes color is still not clear to me. Blue? Dark blue? Green? :blink:
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Postby pov603 on February 11th, 2012, 7:29 am

Makkonen wrote:I think we need to ignore (although I salute your patience, Simon) the attempts of users like sparkoflife to derail this topic into various red herrings and strawmen. There's no time or need for that. All of our energies must be used to gather the most convincing and comprehensive collection of evidence of fakery here. This is a critical moment.

Sometimes the media has done the investigative job for us and everyone, like for example in this picture (http://www.iltasanomat.fi/ulkomaat/brei ... 57873.html):

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Now, even if one believes that both allegedly authentic photographs represent a real person and that person is the dreaded Breivik, even ignoring the vastly different hairlines on the two photos, there is NO way for anyone to believe, at face value, that these photos represent a person with the same date of birth. No way. Or does "being" a Mason suddenly make one look authoritatively older, i.e. make one age through sheer Masonic prestige alone?


It's weird looking back at some of the earlier pixels pictures and see how different 'he' is now.
They've made him more sinister-looking since the 'arrest'.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Postby traumabasedmindcontr on February 13th, 2012, 2:35 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't "Breivik" of february 2012 look a whole lot like Richard "Aphex Twin" James did, back in his "Windowlicker"-days (= in 1999)??

http://photos.lucywho.com/t2099524/aphe ... cover.html
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Postby traumabasedmindcontr on February 16th, 2012, 11:13 pm

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Postby Makkonen on February 16th, 2012, 11:32 pm

Maybe the design team behind "Anders" had several inspirations/references for the end product, thus resulting in the kind of "guy" we know now.
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