9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc

The notion of 'thousands of victims' was crucial to generate universal public outrage. However, having 3000 angry families breathing down their necks was never part of the perps' demented plan. Our ongoing analyses and investigations suggest that NO one died on 9/11.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread post by MrSinclair » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:11 am

simonshack wrote:
MrSinclair wrote:
That is Peter Hackel on the left without question. I can't say that his stepmother is real but he is
The guy four to his left is James Montgomery , a local blues singer/harp player who also works with Johnny Winter
???

Mr Sinclair: who taught you the English idiom?
I am a victim of an American public school education in a blue collar town.

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Unread post by simonshack » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:19 am

MrSinclair wrote:
I am a victim of an American public school education in a blue collar town.
A victim you may well be. We all are - in one way or another.

However, we may ask ourselves: Do we want to escape "victimness" - or are we comfortable with being fucked on a daily basis?

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread post by MrSinclair » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:29 am

simonshack wrote:
MrSinclair wrote:
I am a victim of an American public school education in a blue collar town.
A victim you may well be. We all are - in one way or another.

However, we may ask ourselves: Do we want to escape "victimness" - or are we comfortable with being fucked on a daily basis?
I view it more as abdicating victimness by refusing to buy into the system that demands it. I think your website and work is doing an outstanding job of serving those who wish to decondition themselves from the programmed and artificial reality the media generates.

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Unread post by Maat » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:07 am

MrSinclair, do try not to use words like "evidence" when relating any kind of hearsay ;)
Anyway, regardless of what indoctrination system we were subjected to, we all still have a choice to overcome it and educate ourselves.

Just have to watch out for those 'speed bumps', man — even honest intentions can get lost in translation :D

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread post by MrSinclair » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:32 am

I looked on youtube and found this "tribute". This includes photos of Paige Hackel with her husband.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vOJ9vQrGuI

To me the tone of it is a bit distant and impersonal and like other tributes I have begun to look at it fails to really say anything about the "departed".

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Unread post by antipodean » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:11 am

MrSinclair wrote:I looked on youtube and found this "tribute". This includes photos of Paige Hackel with her husband.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vOJ9vQrGuI

To me the tone of it is a bit distant and impersonal and like other tributes I have begun to look at it fails to really say anything about the "departed".
That video is no different from this video http://vimeo.com/28390989. Found on the PH Productions website that you linked to previously.

Also you don't often have someone look like their step mother (as well as being a similar age)
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Some say she look's like Peter, or even Hilary Clinton. I see David Cassidy in her.

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What's needed is a picture of Peter Hackel's birth mother, (as suggested by Brianv) who I assume would be an ex wife of his father.

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Unread post by simonshack » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:29 pm

simonshack wrote:*

Now, get this, folks:

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Please go to the official Voices of September 11 Memorial (which is in charge of listing the definitive list of the 9/11 victims for the 9/11 Memorial & Museum at Ground Zero): http://voicesofseptember11.org/dev/memo ... ems=1,6,13

Select letter "W" in the box that says "alphabetically".

Can you find Miss Wainio there among the "W's"? I can't ! Can you ???

I'm awfully shocked! And her sister Sarah should be equally shocked! What about her (step)mother, Esther Heymann? She must be mad as hell!!! :angry: :P
I have quoted my post of October 26, 2011.

The Voices of September 11 Memorial has now reinstated Liz Wainio ! They should pay us for what we do ! :angry: :P

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Damn it - I should have made a screencap last October, as proof of Liz Wainio's absence (until late 2011) from "Voices of September11" - the officially appointed website for the NATIONAL 9/11 MUSEUM AND MEMORIAL. However, here's proof that fellow Cluesforum administrator Nonhocapito double-checked it at the time - and confirmed Wainio's absence:
nonhocapito wrote:October 26th, 2011, 10:27 am

Incredible Simon...

She should be there, in good company between Mary A. Wahlstrom and Gabriela S. Waisman :wacko: :P

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Unread post by Brutal Metal » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:28 am

There has to be a chain of command for this process to add Waino 10 fricken years later, I wonder what the actual person that added it to their website looked like? Did their supervisor say "Hey we forgot one, put her in the database please!" The worker simply responded with a nod! :D

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Unread post by simonshack » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:46 pm

My friend Paul from Ireland (whom I just talked to on Skype for several hours) sent me THIS info:

Four missing Irish alive in NY hospital
http://web.archive.org/web/200410290647 ... le=1524076

Priceless, innit? :lol:

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Unread post by Makkonen » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:00 pm

simonshack wrote:My friend Paul from Ireland (whom I just talked to on Skype for several hours) sent me THIS info:

Four missing Irish alive in NY hospital
http://web.archive.org/web/200410290647 ... le=1524076

Priceless, innit? :lol:
"...under different names in a Manhattan hospital."

:lol:

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Unread post by SmokingGunII » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:00 pm

On the same day, the ashes of Ruth McCourt, who was killed on one of the hijacked planes, were brought to Cork.

Wowser! They returned Ruth McCourts ashes, who was "aboard" UA175. So how did this work exactly? Rescue volunteers sifting through the WTC rubble spot a pile of ash. "Hey guys, I think I've found a cremated body. Get the forensics in to take some DNA." Or perhaps it was the gold wedding ring & Papal coin laying in her wallet that also survived the crash, inferno and collapse, that helped them ID the "body"? :rolleyes:

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Unread post by Makkonen » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:16 am

"Karol Ann Keasler" finally identified, yay! "After almost 11 years"... Image

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... years.html
The remains of a bride-to-be from Brooklyn Heights who died on 9/11 have finally be identified almost 11 years after the terrorist attacks.

Karol Ann Keasler, 42, worked as an event planner for investment bank Keefe, Bruyette & Woods on the 89th floor of the south tower of the World Trade Center.

She was finally identified by New York's chief medical examiner on Friday.

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Karol Ann Keasler, 42, worked as an event planner for investment bank Keefe, Bruyette & Woods on the 89th floor of the south tower of the World Trade Center
Keefe, Bruyette & Woods: http://www.kbw.com/

And what do you know, they have a special section for "9/11 Media Appearances": Image http://www.kbw.com/911/2011appearances.html

Continuing from that Daily Mail article:
'It’s been almost 11 years. And after all this time, I had come to believe that things like this only happen on ‘CSI.’ Susan, her younger sister told the New York Daily News, from her Las Vegas home.

A bone in Karol's foot was found in the months after 9/11 and identified via breakthrough technology, developed since 9/11, that can extract a full DNA profile from a small bone fragment. (So it took 11 years to develop that particular identification technology - what a coincidence. Image)

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In 2005, Karol’s business cards, an emery board and a nail clipper she always carried in a make-up case were found at the site and returned to the family. :puke:

Her sister said that she was not even supposed to be in New York on that fateful day, her sister told the Daily News. :puke: (Just how fucking many more times are they still going to use this "wasn't even supposed to..." - trope re: 9/11??)

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The latest identification brings the number of victims whose bodies or body parts have been recovered and positively identified to to 1,633.
Here "she" is with her simster:
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Unread post by Makkonen » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:50 am

Actually, KBW not only has that bizarre "9/11 Media Appearances" section, but also an "in itself" 9/11 KBW section: http://www.kbw.com/911/index.html
The events of September 11th tragically impacted our nation, our firm and our friends. Sixty-seven of our colleagues died on September 11th. The employees of KBW are forever grateful for the service, friendship and example that our lost colleagues shared with us. Our hearts go out to the families of those who lost loved ones, and KBW has made it a priority to provide assistance to these families. One vehicle for such assistance is the KBW Family Fund. KBW is thankful for the wonderful support that we have received since the tragic events occurred. Below is a list of our colleagues who lost their lives on September 11th.
Obviously no further complicated deductions are needed to declare that KBW is a scam or operating a scam as its "subsidiary". Any New Yorkers around here (esp. near Melville) can pay a visit to their "Family Fund": Image http://www.kbw.com/911/family_fund.html

More shameless & self-promoting propaganda from KBW: http://www.kbw.com/911/triumph.html

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Unread post by pshea38 » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:27 am

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Just talking about this exact image elsewhere.
Karol has two extra knuckles on her right hand! You can just about make
out the tip of her thumb, and the other 4 fingers are (almost?) accounted for.
Her hair parts impossibly over her left ear and her upper lip doesn't meet correctly at the centre.
Her neck is too thin, judging by her necklace and her hair ends perfectly
horizontally over her shoulder.
Is that an extra jointed finger (pinkie?) I see? :blink:
Oh the humanity!

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Unread post by Makkonen » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:10 am

Indeed, pshea38.

And I surely don't need to convince anyone of what an atrocious job the simsters photo is. But just to be sure, scaled up and cropped:

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A family portrait for the ages!

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