OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Discussing the most relevant "sequels" or "reminders" of 9/11. The so-called "War On Terror" is a global scam finalized to manipulate this world's population with crass fear-mongering tactics designed to scare you shitless.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread post by traumabasedmindcontr » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:12 pm

simonshack wrote:
RoyBean wrote:Tamta Liparteliani wtf?
Great find, Roy. Magic done. :)
As brianv rightly says : we have our Elizabeth Wainio of the "Norway Attacks".

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http://www.septemberclues.info/vicsims_ ... alyses.htm


The only truthful words the corporate newsmedia has printed so far :
'Norway's 9/11'" In what was being described as 'Norway's 9/11'..."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Utoya.html
If this has been mentioned on the forum prior to this, please forgive me, but I thought it important to mention that according to reports, "Tamta Liparteliani":s funeral was attended by none other that Georgias controversial President, Mikheil Saakashvili(!!). What's up with that!?? How often does a head of state (of even the smallest of countries) attend a funeral of one (1) victim of a violent crime...??


http://ajaratv.ge/en/?page=shownews&id=11374
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"Tamta Liparteliani has been buried at the ancestral cemetery in Kutaisi, Imereti region of Georgia .The funeral was attended by President Mikheil Saakashvili and Norwegian diplomats.

Prior to the funeral, Tamta Liparteliani’s body was laid in the church. Bishop Kalistrate said ‘Kutaisi and whole Georgia are in great sorrow. Two spiritual children of the church were in Norway. The evil killed one of them. She was the only child of her family’.
According to Natia Chkhetiani, a girl that was along with Tamta in Norway during the tragedy, ‘People, like Tamta, are rarely born. I am happy I spend a part of my life with her. I want more now to live in order to do my best to perpetuate Tamta’s name’.

Tamta Liparteliani was killed along with other 83 people by terrorist Anders Breivik in a camp in Norway on 22 July. Her body was brought to Georgia on 4 August."

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread post by brianv » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:55 pm

They are all in it together!

The last thing they want is people finding out the truth about governments and these criminal states known as countries. And how the voting system is a joke and how banks are founded on monopoly money. The internet had to be controlled and this is how they are doing it! We can expect a continuation of these psyops less their charade be discovered!

I know, I'll kill a bunch of kids and hand the church, state, media and the military terrorists a propaganda gift and I'll spend the rest of my life in jail or probably get killed - way to go!

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread post by simonshack » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:29 pm

http://ajaratv.ge/en/?page=shownews&id=11374
Tamta Liparteliani was killed along with other 83 people by terrorist Anders Breivik in a camp in Norway on 22 July. Her body was brought to Georgia on 4 August."
Wha-at???

Over TWO weeks later, this Georgian ajaratv news outlet was still going with that "92 dead" figure???(84 in Utøya and 8 in Oslo)...Pathetic.

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REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION FROM THE OSLO POLICE DISTRICT


Btw folks, I am still waiting for a due reply from Unni Grøndal - the head of the media section for the Oslo Police District.
(see this earlier post : http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p2362657 )

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Unni Grøndal - Oslo police press officer http://www.politiforum.no/id/4074

I have now reiterated (by e-mail) the below request to Mrs Grøndal on 3 occasions. She just doesn't reply. I will therefore post (for the record) this 'confidential' e-mail of mine to Mrs. Grøndal - right here on the forum.

Needless to say, I am extremely disappointed with this inexplicable silence and lack of accountability on the part of my fatherland's authorities. And let me be righteously outraged and even a bit pompous about being repeatedly snubbed in such a crass manner : As a direct descendant of Nicolai Wergeland, one of Norway's founding fathers, I expect the Norwegian government to summon the Oslo Police district to respond to the below request for clarification.


Oggetto: Request for clarification - Oslo/Utøya attacks
Da: simonshack@libero.it
A: <unni.grondal@politiet.no>
Date(s): (Same e-mail sent on 3 occasions: on 24/11/2011 - on 26/11/2011 - and on 03/12/2011)

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Dear Mrs.Grøndal,



I am the administrator of cluesforum.info, an internet research community focusing on news media propaganda and general criminal activities around the world.

On our forum, we started a discussion topic on the day of the 22/7 Oslo attacks; it has now reached well in excess of 100.000 views: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1022

Our readers (including alleged survivors of the attacks) have raised a number of questions concerning publicly released news media and police reports connected to the Oslo attacks. This is to ask you for an official clarification regarding a police report published at your website http://www.politi.no in the aftermath of the event, titled “92 døde - søket fortsetter”: http://www.webcitation.org/60OUs6TEC

As we understand, this Oslo police report was issued on 23/7 2011 - almost 24 hours after the event. Here is an English translation of your report’s introduction:

“The status as of 15:30 today is that 85 are confirmed dead at Utøya and 7 in Oslo. These figures may change. Searches continue in the waters around Utøya.”

In fact, the”92 confirmed dead” figure was also widely reported by the press: http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/23/nyhe ... /17429023/

Since the final total death toll of the Oslo attacks was later adjusted to 77, we have the following questions to submit to you, as we understand that you are in charge of the press relations for the Oslo police:

1: What was the source of that early, erroneous information? Was it not police staff? If not, who was in charge of counting the bodies in Oslo and on Utøya island?

2: If, for any reason, the police itself was not responsible for computing that inflated body count, how could the police possibly have taken the chance to release totally unverified information (of such highly sensitive nature) to the press? Moreover, why did your report include the word “bekreftet”(confirmed) to describe the status of a provisional body count - which turned out to be grossly inaccurate?

3: If this error was the result of ‘bad communication’ (as was stated in the press - an explanation which defies belief), has the Oslo police taken any measures to ensure that such a blunder never occurs again?

Thanks in advance for a kind response to our legitimate questions. We believe the public at large deserves answers to this incomprehensible occurrence.

Simon Shack
Lest anyone may think I have mailed this request to the wrong e-mail address, please know that I firstly contacted a colleague of Mrs. Grøndal - Mr. Øystein Stavdal Paulsen. He duly responded to me - within 5 hours of my e-mail to him. Here is the prompt reply Mr. Paulsen sent me:
Oggetto: SV: "92 confirmed dead in Oslo attacks"
Da: osp@politiet.no
A: "'simonshack@libero.it'"<simonshack@libero.it>
Data: 24/11/2011 22:37

Hi,

you will have to contact mrs Unni Grondal of the Oslo Police District as she is the head of the media section.

unni.grondal@politiet.no

Oystein Stavdal Paulsen,
National Police Directorate // 22/7-evaluation team
The above mail is the only one I have received so far from the Oslo Police district.

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread post by oktavian » Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:52 pm

Norwegian lawyers asks to invite new experts for ABB.
Husbi and Sorheim’s report is fake?

http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/12/22/nyhe ... /19527314/

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread post by Maat » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:59 pm

oktavian wrote:Norwegian lawyers asks to invite new experts for ABB.
Husbi and Sorheim’s report is fake?

http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/12/22/nyhe ... /19527314/
Oktavian,

It is all fake!
You were directed by Simon 3 weeks ago to introduce yourself more appropriately here. Please do so before posting again. Thanks.

That article is just more nonsense dragging out this ridiculous parody in a lame attempt to sound 'credible' and keep it in the public's mind: Google translation

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread post by simonshack » Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:25 am

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"MONEY FOR NOTHING - BRICKS FOR FREE"
Taxpayers will foot the bill for Norway's new government buildings



Did you wonder - where's the cash? Where's the motivation behind this Oslo PsyOp?

If anyone is wondering how the Breivik PsyOp could possibly generate huge amounts of cash for the folks behind the hoax (all indications pointing to Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg and his "Arbeiderpartiet" - the ruling Norwegian Labour Party), here's an interesting article - published only 4 days after the event:

http://mobil.bt.no/nyheter/okonomi/Ofre ... 44241.html

The article says, in substance, that if Breivik himself cannot cover the expenses of his deeds, there's a Norwegian law that says that, in the case of a defendant not having enough money to cover the costs of his criminal deeds, the state will cover for those expenses. In other words, the Norwegian taxpayers will pay for the destruction (AND RECONSTRUCTION) of the government buildings (2.4 billion Nkr) and for the family members claims (300million Nkr).

To put this into perspective, 300mil Norwegian kroners are roughly $50million US dollars - and 2.4 billion Nkr are roughly another $400million !

In other words, the Arbeiderpartiet stands to make about 450 million dollars out of this hoax.

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread post by brianv » Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:16 am

simonshack wrote:*

MONEY FOR NOTHING

Did you wonder - where's the cash? Where's the motivation behind this Oslo PsyOp?

If anyone is wondering how the Breivik PsyOp could possibly generate huge amounts of cash for the folks behind the hoax (all indications pointing to Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg and his "Arbeiderpartiet" - the ruling Norwegian Labour Party), here's an interesting article - published only 4 days after the event:

http://mobil.bt.no/nyheter/okonomi/Ofre ... 44241.html

The article says, in substance, that if Breivik himself cannot cover the expenses of his deeds, there's a Norwegian law that says that, in the case of a defendant not having enough money to cover the costs of his criminal deeds, the state will cover for those expenses. In other words, the Norwegian taxpayers will pay for the destruction of the government buildings (2.4 billion Nkr) and for the family members claims (300million Nkr).

To put this into perspective, 300mil Norwegian kroners are roughly $50million US dollars - and 2.4 billion Nkr are roughly another $400million !

In other words, the Arbeiderpartiet stands to make about 450 million dollars out of this hoax.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread post by Norìg » Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:51 pm

simonshack wrote:In the Great PsyOp manual, there is evidently an all-important chapter urging the scriptwriters to include 'psychologically compelling' references to the human senses - visuals, smell, touch, etc... all aimed to inject some 'hard-core reality' in the utterly unreal, outlandish tales they are supposed to sell to the public.
And also here:

"- I can still smell some of my boy in there [in his room]. He is still very close."

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks ... 27060.html

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread post by Maat » Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:22 pm

Norìg wrote:
simonshack wrote:In the Great PsyOp manual, there is evidently an all-important chapter urging the scriptwriters to include 'psychologically compelling' references to the human senses - visuals, smell, touch, etc... all aimed to inject some 'hard-core reality' in the utterly unreal, outlandish tales they are supposed to sell to the public.
And also here:

"- I can still smell some of my boy in there [in his room]. He is still very close."

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks ... 27060.html
Oh yes, that reminded me of my all-time favorite :lol:
simonshack wrote:@ October 1st, 2010, 9:48 am http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p2244991
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To raise our spirits, let me submit just a sample of the ignominiously stupid sort of tripe to be found - almost invariably - in the online tributes and elsewhere. It is supposedly written by Britt Ehnar, the alleged mourning mother of the lone Swedish 9/11 vicsim "David Tengelin":

"Normally when you had been at home and returned to New York you left things here and there for me to pick up later. The last time you only left a pair of used socks on the floor. I did not have time to wash them before 9/11. I still have not and I never will. I smell them every day and they smell of you David. I am so afraid that your smell will vanish. I can see the shape of your feet in the socks. There are some tiny spots of dirt on the outside, and inside I can see tiny pieces of skin, which have come from your feet. This is all I have left of you. I do not usually like the smell of used socks, but these mean everything to me. They contain the last scent you left behind."

I love you,
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Peeeww! :blink: :rolleyes: :P

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread post by traumabasedmindcontr » Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:40 pm

Maat wrote: Oh yes, that reminded me of my all-time favorite :lol:
simonshack wrote:@ October 1st, 2010, 9:48 am http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p2244991
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To raise our spirits, let me submit just a sample of the ignominiously stupid sort of tripe to be found - almost invariably - in the online tributes and elsewhere. It is supposedly written by Britt Ehnar, the alleged mourning mother of the lone Swedish 9/11 vicsim "David Tengelin":

"Normally when you had been at home and returned to New York you left things here and there for me to pick up later. The last time you only left a pair of used socks on the floor. I did not have time to wash them before 9/11. I still have not and I never will. I smell them every day and they smell of you David. I am so afraid that your smell will vanish. I can see the shape of your feet in the socks. There are some tiny spots of dirt on the outside, and inside I can see tiny pieces of skin, which have come from your feet. This is all I have left of you. I do not usually like the smell of used socks, but these mean everything to me. They contain the last scent you left behind."

I love you,
Mom
Peeeww! :blink: :rolleyes: :P
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread post by simonshack » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:24 pm

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THE BREIVIK PSYOP FOLLOW-UP: A SURREAL, PREPOSTEROUS MESS

The folks managing the Breivik PsyOp are quite evidently losing their marbles. Let me just update all our readers concerning the recent developments of the Breivik affair - pertaining in particular to the "psychiatry-experts' forensic 244-page report about Breivik's mental health". There has, unsurprisingly, been a great uproar in the Norwegian press about the experts' conclusion that "Breivik suffers from paranoid-schizophrenia, so therefore, cannot be accountable under Norwegian Law for his deeds"...(YES - that is a pretty accurate summary/translation of the psychiatric report, believe it or not!).

Before I get on, let me just reaffirm what the extensive research on this Cluesforum.info thread has established: Anders Behring Breivik is not a real person - only a digitally-moulded entity manufactured to stage a shocking 'terror-attack' in Norway. Unsurprisingly, the attack was immediately billed as "Norway's 9/11" - while the press hammered into the public the notion that "Norway will never be the same again". We have all seen this before - and the motivations for enacting such PsyOps should be no mystery for anyone familiar with this forum's efforts.

As it is, this Breivik saga is now getting, by the day, more and more nonsensical and surreal. By surreal, I mean not only "detached from reality" - but also utterly contradictory and laughably absurd for such a highly sensitive, legal procedure unfolding in a modern and advanced country like Norway : for instance, have you ever heard of a serial killer being allowed to continuously express his opinions (and concerns) about the forensic reports of his own mental condition? - all whilst the press reports, step by step, his continuous changes of heart and outrageous demands?

Here's a little chronology of Breivik's comments and concerns - as reported by the Norwegian press this month:

December 3, 2011
"Breivik points out errors in almost every page of the report"
(quoting lawyer Odd Ivar Grøn)- " Breivik disagrees with the conclusions. He is concerned that the experts don't have the necessary experience with political ideologies." :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslo ... d=10024406

December 5, 2011
"Breivik feels that the conclusions (of the report) opens new opportunites"
Anders Behring Breivik does not wish to contest the forensic psychiatry report - according to his lawyer.

(In the attached video, Geir Lippestad asserts that Breivik has "no negative views" about the forensic report - and that Breivik feels it may actually open "new opportunities").
http://www.aftenposten.no/webtv/--Breiv ... 13674.html

December 16, 2011
"Breivik: 80 percent of the report is wrong"
(Quoting Breivik's lawyer, Geir Lippestad): "Breivik contends that 80 percent of the conversations, and of the contents of those conversations which the(forensic psychiatry) experts say have taken place, have NOT taken place."
http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/innenriks/bre ... 62927.html

:blink: :huh: :rolleyes:



But here's the very sublime cherry on this soggy cheesecake:
December 23, 2011
"Breivik will not ask for a new team of experts"

"Anders Behring Breivik and his lawyers have agreed not to ask for new experts to visit/assess him" - says his lawyer Geir Lippestad.

Instead, the terror-accused 32-year-old wishes to bring in (contract) persons with knowledge of history, political science and with a politically-motivated stance towards the trial which will start in April next year.

- He has not designated any concrete persons. This will be our job in the near future, says lawyer Geir Lippestad to VG Nett."
:o :rolleyes:

http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslo ... d=10024945
What a gigantic farce is being played at the expense of the Norwegian people. Poor, poor Norway.

But let us keep our senses on track to try and smell out/figure out what's really going on here - and what all this madness is all about. Please contribute with your own thoughts hereafter - but let me just propose my two pence worth of conclusion: the gist of this PsyOp is to implement a US-style "Patriot Act" crackdown in Norway. All these outrageous press reports appear specifically designed to outrage the Norwegian populace - and to make the people themselves ASK for tougher, police-state control and legislations. In fact, the overwhelming type of public comments/reactions one can find (I have read quite a few of them)to Breivik's alleged pretenses, are of utter disgust - over how leniently Breivik is treated by the Press/the Law/etc - and how very poorly the Oslo police/security forces performed during the "attacks". Sadly, most people in Norway have fallen for this ridiculous PsyOp, hook line and sinker.

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread post by HonestlyNow » Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:28 am

Did you all catch the (U.S.) Premiere of Terror Island ?
(I just missed it.)

Documentary Channel -- Terror Island (2012) -- Next showing 11pm (est)
"A horrific act on July 22, 2011 in Norway" 1hr 15min

DOC Store price $27.99

"TERROR ISLAND" is unlike any documentary you've ever seen. It's exclusive U.S. premiere is Sunday night on Documentary Channel. It is available for sale only in the DOC Store.

On July 22, 2011 in Norway, two horrific acts took place that will forever be remembered in the minds and hearts of every Norwegian. The first was a car bomb explosion in Oslo in the executive government quarter; this explosion killed eight people and wounded several others, with more than 10 people critically injured. The second attack occurred less than two hours later at a summer camp on the island of Utøya in Tyrifjorden, Buskerud.

The camp was organized by the youth division of the ruling Norwegian Labour Party. A gunman dressed in an authentic looking police uniform and showing false identification gained access to the island and subsequently opened fire at the participants, killing 69 attendees, including personal friends of Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg and the stepbrother of Norway's crown princess Mette-Marit. This makes it the deadliest attack in Norway since World War II. "TERROR ISLAND" documents the horrific spree by the assassin, Anders Behring Breivik, and gives witness to the pain, as well as the courage, to those who suffered, those who lost their lives and those who managed to survive. (59 minutes, DVD, 2011)


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Yes, and a Happy New Year to All !!

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread post by bostonterrierowner » Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:59 pm

I noticed something interesting this morning when I started my PC and went on a big news portal to check on today's dose of propaganda . I saw the title reading :

"New facts on norwegian massacre. Was it a lie ? " http://wiadomosci.wp.pl/title,Nowe-fakt ... caid=1dab0

I was stunned. Are they really going to admit that it was bullshit ? :)

According to the article Breivik's claims to be a part of the "international terrorist organization" was pure fabrication but some sublime message was smuggled into MSM :)

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread post by Kentrailer » Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:45 pm

So, has everyone seen this Tamta Liparteliani video with more pics?


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUYDKXoq0WI

This one as well:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivv7wUwxjyE

I have been putting together a video that included Tamta and talked about the photoshopping.. but then I wanted to make sure there wasn't any more pictures of her, and there appear to be quite a few:

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Is it possible that some of the vicsims are actually real people, just hired for pictures and the perps are doing obvious photoshops for us to expose, only later to be proved wrong by a video or something that surfaces?

That way- the rest of the research gets dismissed by association?

Anyway, if anyone can find some obvious problems with those pictures that would be great- What do you guys think?
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Interesting: So, I have been using tineye.com to try and find if the pictures were manipulated.. I put in the image Image and tineye says that there are zero matches for it online.. VERY strange as I know it's online.. same thing for all the other pictures I have entered so far...

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Another edit: I think I just found the video I was worried about
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoSULXhb2VA
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