Meeting the VICSIM FAMILIES

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I see no reason to believe that these photos aren't genuine from the Ropewalk, if there real I don't know what the Big Deal is? These people could be unsuspecting pawns in this ordeal, throw a few Towson students in that have NO Idea who Waino is, maybe they see some memorial posters etc.. on campus and want to do their part to honor a 911 victim even though she's an impostor...We all know that it doesn't take much for a college student to go to an event at a bar to party, they seem far from somber to me, it just looks like a reason to get hammered!
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There are funny bits surrounding the 3 central figures. Looks dropped into the photo to me:
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It's also trying to look like a simple on-camera-flash candid photo yet virtually no flash shadows
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Thanks for bringing up the zebra, brianv my man. I didn't dare. :)
here's a bonus:

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From https://picasaweb.google.com/towsonalum ... 1507708882

compare to previous

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for which an ELA might be in order...

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From http://errorlevelanalysis.com/permalink/fc6f775/

Disregard the bright lines around the green patch: it probably applies the same exception as around red patches. I am more interested in the weird blue pattern generated by the zebra, and by the zebra alone. What does this mean? The same happens in the second pic:

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From http://errorlevelanalysis.com/permalink/fc6f775/

Also notice how smiles seem to stand out as photoshopped...
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related to the picasa albums, this is where i found them-
http://www.tutigertracks.com/s/108/inde ... 1&pgid=660


this caught my attention, an fbi cryptanalysis shirt-
https://picasaweb.google.com/towsonalum ... 0594003730


his name is almost fully visible upon zooming. if real, then it could be this guy-
http://www.esvia.org/pdf/Regionalcontacts2007.pdf
Maryland / District of Columbia
S.F.E. J Douglas Dunlap
F.B.I. – (CRRU)
2501 Investigation Blvd.
Quantico, VA. 22135
703-632-7352
[email protected]




about rolling rock beer-
http://www.crusadeguild.eu/2011/09/11/s ... patch-com/
"After the solemn commemorations of this weekend, Wainio will sit down with family and friends and remember Lizz with some of her favorite things—Rolling Rock, champagne and stories of her cat.

"There's no glorifying any of it, but we have to celebrate the things that she loved," she said."

a list of attendees and absentees for the 2011 event-
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=279035965456208

there i found the sarah's facebook-
http://www.facebook.com/sarahrachaelwainio

and these albums-
http://www.facebook.com/sarahrachaelwai ... ?sk=photos

after viewing them some thoughts that emerged - everyone is smiling at the 10th anniversary (of shanksville) gathering, from obama, to clinton, to the wainios. i understand when people celebrate one's life instead of being morose, but this event in particular should have been a somber or "solemn" event. personally, i always get choked up and sad when i think of people i knew who have died, no matter how long its been since they died. anytime a memory of them comes to mind, a sadness takes over me, even though im not at a funeral or any other would-be sad place. so i find it very difficult to understand all the smiles i see at this event.

after viewing the "you shine..." album, i again was surprised by the constant glow of smiles, but i was also struck by the many famous celebrities the sarah has been rubbing elbows with in recent years. to an outsider, it might be appear that "lizzie's" (supposed/allged) death has served sarah well.








edited to add other possibilities for the fbi guy-

fbi cryptanalysis doug dunlap
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe ... 8l78l1l1l0

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe ... 3l63l1l1l0


fbi "douglas dunlop"
http://www.google.com/search?q=fbi++%22 ... 72&bih=819


fbi "Doug Dunlap"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe ... 72&bih=819


fbi "james douglas dunlap"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe ... 250l1298l0
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after viewing them some thoughts that emerged - everyone is smiling at the 10th anniversary (of shanksville) gathering, from obama, to clinton, to the wainios. i understand when people celebrate one's life instead of being morose, but this event in particular should have been a somber or "solemn" event. personally, i always get choked up and sad when i think of people i knew who have died, no matter how long its been since they died. anytime a memory of them comes to mind, a sadness takes over me, even though im not at a funeral or any other would-be sad place. so i find it very difficult to understand all the smiles i see at this event.

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Elizabeth Wainio and the Ropewalk Tavern
Article in the Baltimore Sun/Oct. 22, 2001
They stocked some extra Rolling Rock at the Ropewalk Tavern in South Baltimore yesterday because it was Lizz Wainio's favorite beer and her friends, whose tastes run strictly to other American brews, drank the Rock in her honor.

Marc and Bill McFaul, who own the tavern, brought in some musicians and set up a table with a jar for donations in Lizz Wainio's name, and there was a scrapbook of photographs and tributes to her.

This is how the friends of a young, smart, beautiful woman who died in the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, tried to turn their simmering grief into something positive.

That's what Wainio, who died in the crash of United Airlines flight 93 in Pennsylvania, would have wanted.

"She was always looking at the positive in people," said her friend and the tavern owners' sister, Linda McFaul. "She found the positive in everyone. ... Lizz wasn't perfect, but she came pretty close."

"People liked her the first time they met her," said another friend, Wendy Simmons. "She had such positive energy."

Wainio had dark hair and sparkling eyes, a pretty woman.

"Pretty in here," said her stepmother Phyllis Heymann, and she pointed to her heart as she stood with her husband, Ben Wainio, and Lizz's brother, Tom.

The tavern, on South Charles Street near Cross Street Market, was busier than it's ever been on a warm Sunday afternoon in October with the Ravens playing an away game. Marc McFaul promised to take the proceeds from the day's sales of food and drink and put it into a scholarship fund that's been set up in her name at Wainio's alma mater, Towson University. He's going to make a donation to the American Red Cross, too.

There was plenty of chatter and laughter in the Ropewalk. Wainio would have wanted that, too. She was 27 years old, full of future, and she knew how to have fun.

The Ropewalk was Cheers for her, where everyone knew her name, where she shared stories with friends, where she played a mean game of foos ball, and where countless young men fell in love with her.

Sometimes the parties would roll past closing time to someone's house -- maybe Simmons' place or Chanda Jones'. They'd sit up all night, just talking about the things friends talk about. One night last August, Lizz hooked up with Linda McFaul at the Ropewalk after an Orioles game and they stayed up till 5 the next morning, just talking. Lizz caught a couple hours of sleep then bolted to make a commitment -- she'd promised to take her little sister, Sarah, to get her nails done.

"Lizz was very career-minded but also very focused on family and friends," said Simmons, sporting a "Bud Girl" cap inside the bar.

During the last couple of years, after Wainio took a job with the Discovery Channel stores and moved to the New York metropolitan area, she came back frequently to Baltimore and Catonsville, where she grew up, to see family and friends.

"When she visited, she was constantly on the go. She believed she had to spend time with everyone who was important to her," Linda McFaul said.

"Yeah," Simmons added, "she'd be running two hours late sometimes to meet us at the Ropewalk, and you'd find out later she'd been with an uncle or at her sister's play."

Even after settling in Watchung, N.J., and getting big-time busy and successful as a district manager for the Discovery Channel chain, she made a point of driving back to Baltimore for birthdays -- Chanda's in March, Linda's in May, Wendy's in June. They always seemed to end up at the Ropewalk together.

And there were scores of e-mails and phone calls. At least one of her friends always seemed to know what Wainio was doing next -- business trips, vacations.

They knew all about her trip early last month to Italy to be a bridesmaid for a friend from Catonsville High School days who was getting married in Tuscany.

And they knew Wainio was headed to Paris after that to meet another friend, a college chum named Carrie Stricker, and tour the city.

They knew what her last days were like -- back home in New Jersey on Sunday, Sept. 9, catch-up and errands on Monday, Sept. 10. Simmons, who works for CitiFinancial in downtown Baltimore, knew Wainio had to make a trip to San Francisco out of Newark. She heard from her on the morning of Sept. 11.

"I got a voice-mail from her at work," Simmons said. "She said, `It's 6:30. I figured you wouldn't want a wake-up call at home.' She thanked me for all the funny e-mails I'd sent her while she was in Italy and France. She was off to San Francisco for work. `Talk to you soon,' she said."

It was the last time Simmons heard her best friend's voice.

But it was not Honor Elizabeth Wainio's last phone call.

She was among the passengers on Flight 93 who managed to use cellular phones to call loved ones in the frantic minutes after the United Airlines jet had been hijacked. Her friends say Lizz Wainio managed to spend 11 minutes on the phone with her stepmother.

The plane crashed in Shanksville, in western Pennsylvania.

First the fears, then the horrible confirmations spread among her friends back in Baltimore. The tears came in torrents, the anger in a flood. On the night of Sept. 11, her friends assembled at the Ropewalk. Marc McFaul put a case of Rolling Rock on ice. Sandy Singer and Wendy Simmons passed up their usual, Bud Lite, and Linda McFaul and Chanda Jones skipped theirs, Miller Lite. They all drank Wainio's favorite beer instead.

The memorial service was Oct. 8, Wainio's birthday, at Christian Temple in Catonsville.

"I got angry when I walked through the doors there," Linda McFaul said. "Because I should have been walking into that church one day for Lizz's wedding ..."

The day after her friend died in Shanksville, Wendy Simmons received a postcard from Paris. She'd been expecting it. She knew Wainio would have sent one while she was in France. On the postcard, Simmons got instruction on how to order beer in French. "And Lizz said that, contrary to what she thought, French men are quite tall." Simmons, who is tall herself, took the note as a scouting report from a friend.

She laughed, so did Linda McFaul and Chanda Jones and Sandy Singer.

Then tears seeped from eyes again, and someone passed out tissues around a little table in the Ropewalk Tavern.
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2001-1 ... ainio-lizz

List of people claiming to know Elizabeth Wainio:

Marc McFaul (owner of Ropewalk Tavern)
Bill McFaul (owner of Ropewalk Tavern)
Linda McFaul (owners sister)
Wendy Simmons (friend)
Chanda Jones (friend)
Sandy Singer (friend)
Carrie Stricker (friend in Paris)

Also, subtle David Angell reference with the Cheers mention?

And why are they calling Esther Heymann "Phyllis"?
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upstream wrote:
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Holy cow! This has to be the shittiest shoop job ever! :o

Lightened (gamma correction only):
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Lighter, showing the paint [note: real photos fade out evenly]
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Enlarged from 1st gamma corrected. Warped face and..demon eyes :blink:
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Oh wait, maybe this IS the real Obama sin Laden :lol:
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Check this out: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 799&type=3

Jet-set Sarah... :blink:
Looks like losing a sister on 9/11 is a quick way to mingle with the "celebs"...

With "Giuliana" (that's the way Giuliani's name is spelled in the pop-up description of this picture)
(to see Rudy in drag - go here: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... liani+drag )
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With Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz ( aka "Jon Stewart" - aka Mr "FAKE NEWS DESK": http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p2350209 )
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With Dr. Drew - the TV host of "Celebrity Rehab":
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With Kiefer Sutherland...
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At the Jerry Springer TV show...
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With Paul Greengrass - director of "United 93" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_93_%28film%29 :rolleyes:
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When blackening the "photos", they over-painted that asswipe Jewart's head and the other asswipe actor whose name thankfully escapes me! Im not even going to bother examining them. Who's the mixed-race clown with the teeth?
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This from her "10th anniversary" bookface album:

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Dear reel.deal, you write
reel.deal wrote:
its got absolutely NOTHING to do with 'photoshop knowledge', and everything to do with...
why the f^*k are these 3 'different' Cintamani Sweet portraits the same basic template image,
and why does 1 of these feature the Wainio family, and why does the Wainio family approve
all the proven photoshopped imagery of their "9/11 victim daughter, Honor Elizabeth"... ?

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now look again at the 3 Cintamani Sweet 'portraits' above;
that is photoshop. no 'knowledge' required.
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I only count 2 different portraits in your GIF of Cintamani Sweet, not 3. Which third portrait are you talking about?

Don't mistake this post as me claiming that Cintamani Sweet is a real person. Not sure about that yet.
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Sarah Wainio / New York Times...
Facebook /the National September 11 Memorial & Museum...and Bill "How dare You" Clinton...
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2 ... sville-pa/

"To help facilitate the conversation, Facebook worked with the National September 11 Memorial & Museum, to introduce a new application last week as a tribute to those who died. People who use Facebook were invited to dedicate their status, update their profile photo, and tell their family and friends how they’re remembering and honoring the victims. Former President Bill Clinton, Mayor Michael Bloomberg were among the people who urged people to dedicate their profiles."
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