THE "CHATBOX"

[AmongTheThugs]

http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/emergency-alert-system-nationwide-test


Saw this last night. This test will seem real but it's really just a test.

This test will air on 11/9/11

[grav]

(notice the Star of Islam symbol featured in both images)

I can't help but think there is some sort of encoding going on here...

The death of a Tyrant, whose body is being delivered underground, and the miraculous birth of a baby pulled from the ashes of destruction...

[chess_king]

one thing i am unsure of is the population control thing. do they want to limit the population to ten percent of what it is now, like some are saying, or is that disinformation?

an article from "the american dream blog" http://endoftheamericandream.com/archiv ... obal-elite

"In fact, it surely is no accident that the United Nations put 7 Billion Day on the exact same day as Halloween. Perhaps they want to highlight how "scary" it is that we have 7 billion people on the planet, or perhaps they are trying to send us a message by having 7 Billion Day occur on the same day as "the festival of death".

In any event, it seems like way too much of a coincidence that 7 Billion Day just happens to fall on the same day as Halloween.

Today, "sustainable development" has become one of the key buzzwords that those in the radical environmental movement love to use, but most Americans have no idea that one of the key elements of "sustainable development" is population control."

any thoughts on this topic?

[hoi.polloi]

Yes, I am highly suspicious of all "greenwashing" movements that seek to pollute the earnest efforts of true environmentalists.

It's not that all environmentalists are wrong. It's just that too many fail to see the strength in arguing a case for casual, every-day respect of our Mother Earth. They have to latch onto the giant media hoaxes like the "BP oil spill" fiasco and the "radiation spill" disaster and whatever the latest form of "climate change" is.

I am sure the Earth is warming - even according to the skeptics - but is it human caused? And if so, does it matter?

We should be skeptical of people who use the threat of disaster to manipulate us.

Naturally, the human population is a problem when the richest 1% control most of the wealth. I have heard arguments that the Earth could handle 20 billion people. I don't know about those numbers but I know resources are not fairly accessible and therefore the argument that more people = bad by default doesn't hold water with me yet.

[Dcopymope]

one thing i am unsure of is the population control thing. do they want to limit the population to ten percent of what it is now, like some are saying, or is that disinformation?

an article from "the american dream blog" http://endoftheamericandream.com/archiv ... obal-elite

"In fact, it surely is no accident that the United Nations put 7 Billion Day on the exact same day as Halloween. Perhaps they want to highlight how "scary" it is that we have 7 billion people on the planet, or perhaps they are trying to send us a message by having 7 Billion Day occur on the same day as "the festival of death".

In any event, it seems like way too much of a coincidence that 7 Billion Day just happens to fall on the same day as Halloween.

Today, "sustainable development" has become one of the key buzzwords that those in the radical environmental movement love to use, but most Americans have no idea that one of the key elements of "sustainable development" is population control."

any thoughts on this topic?

There are lies, damned lies, and then there are statistics. They throw in statistics behind their bogus argument of overpopulation as if 7 billion is supposed to mean the world is overpopulated. As far as reducing the population by ten percent or more, the video below from Bill gates, one of the biggest supporters of planned parenthood and vaccines, should erase any doubts about that. In fact, you'll see that as far as the general populace is concerned, they don't intend on any of us being alive, because he wants to reduce the carbon emissions down to zero, meaning no one is breathing, except them and their test tube freaks of course, like in Brave New World.

Bill Gates Admits Vaccines Are Used for Human Depopulation:
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQtRI7A064

[simonshack]

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My 'Binladin Connection'



So here's the story: my brother (and former racing driver) Mario was once sponsored by the Saudi Binladin construction firm, for a couple of races back in 1986. How did this happen, you may ask? Well, maybe a little foreword is needed here: Mario's childhood dream of becoming a racing driver had one major obstacle, from the word go: to work up the ladder of the very expensive world of motorsport, you need money. Mario had none (and my father certainly couldn't/and wasn't going to help him) so he soon became a bit of a wizard-sponsorship-hunter; in fact, 95% of his time was spent chasing sponsorship deals - and barely 5% driving racing cars... Sadly, I've not been in talking terms with Mario for a long time (for unpleasant family reasons I will spare you) so I can't ask him to fill me in with all the details of just how he bumped into Yeslam Binladin in London. Anyways, he struck a deal to carry the 'Binladin' logo for a few races that year. I believe Mario struck perhaps a hundred such deals during his career, most of them involving small sums of money. In the motor racing world, I remember, people cracked jokes at the unending changes of stickers on his racing cars, a continuously shifting patchwork which made his mechanics go mad: I think the poor lads spent more time re-decorating his cars - than tending to their engines, set up and performance!

You may well imagine my stupor/horror when, a few years ago, I flipped through my hundreds of motor racing photographs from the late 80's - and bumped into one depicting Mario's car with the 'Binladin' logo! (I had of course seen it back in 1986 - but it didn't quite stick in my mind). The stupor/horror soon turned into uncontainable laughter, as I said to myself: "wait til I post THIS on the September Clues forum!" However, for a number of reasons (including friends opining that "that would be madness") I eventually didn't - and in hindsight, I guess that was one of the silliest mistakes I've ever made. Undoubtedly, the spooks and trolls will dance in circles to have beat me to this 'damning revelation'. So please go ahead and call me stoopid - or suspect me of being a covert Binladin family member. But ultimately, I hope you'll laugh as loud as me at this droll and rather surreal...uh...life synchronicity!

[Maat]

Why on earth would anyone think the 'Bin Ladin' name was anything 'bad' in the 80s anyway? No one had heard of their supposed 'black sheep' Osama at that stage, who was allegedly a Mujahideen 'good guy', sponsored by al-CIA-duh, fighting the "evil Soviets" in Afghanistan
Anyone trying to use that to 'discredit' you only shows their ignorance and desperation, proving they can't find any real mud to throw at all!

Yeah, I quickly realized if you hadn't mentioned your brother before there was probably a 'falling out' — many people have some relative(s) they're not on speaking terms with (I have too!)

Weird synchronicity, for sure (or a sign of your 'destiny' to expose the "terrorist" lie ). But, as John Lennon said, "Life is what happens while you're making other plans."

[brianv]

Here's Mario sporting a Marlboro sash!!

I wonder how many have people have been murdered by their filthy cigarettes? 5m? 10m? 20m?

Osama [BinLadin] pales into insignificance, in fact we know BinLadin didnt kill anyone!

I too have estranged family, nothing weird about that! You can choose your friends but you can't choose your family!

[hoi.polloi]

Yeah and my mom is a Zionist. What can you do? These things happen.

Simon, I am glad you posted this story because I think it is more funny than it is distressing.

I think I remember when you told me about this and wondered if people might assume bad things and I said something like 'the truth is more important' but 'also your feelings' or something. I am glad that your feelings have aligned with the truth and you are alright with this hilarious story being posted because it is amazing.

It's almost like if you mapped your personal family drama on the world stage, you'd have a picture of the drama between the cretins behind the money scams (your brother, no offense) and the normal people trying to mind their own business and make peace between everyone (yourself and your mom).

But it seems that's often the case. Remember when we found that MITRE loyalist whose daughter was seemingly like the greenest Patchouli hippie on the planet? And then you have Dick Cheney's daughter, who - while no doubt fairly conservative - is also a Lesbian fighting for sexual equality recognition in Puritan America.

It seems this is the nature of the world, and at times the nature of the world's problems. If only family members of the news anchors who weren't cowed and beaten and driven mad by being cheated on by their slimy husbands could stand up and say: what you are doing to everyone is wrong and I am leaving you!

But I guess there are so many women actually attracted to assholes that wouldn't really solve anything. I dunno, just tossing some ideas around. Maybe it's a stereotype that these slimy people just want love and they've confused material things for it. Gosh how mushy!

[chess_king]

"An agnostic is someone who says that they can never be sure [about God’s existence], that it’s something unprovable. And they’re right. An atheist is someone who says the same thing, but they’re probably going to go with “no.” A freethinker is somebody who thinks outside of the church."

http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com ... d-skeptic/

http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/

the above often has interesting articles.

http://theintelhub.com/2011/10/30/novem ... -new-code/

a couple questions
- any thoughts on what they are doing november 9

-i am also curious about the "fema" camps touted by alex jones types. can we say whether they are real/not and to what extent?

[chess_king]

something i want to point uot about belief.
"Many kinds of concepts occur without the need for belief. People can invent rules, maps, games, social laws, and models without requiring a belief or absolute trust in them. For example, a map may prove useful to get from point A to point B, but to believe that the map equals the territory would produce a falsehood. Humans invented the game of baseball, but it requires no need to believe in the game, or to attach some kind of "truth" to it. People can enjoy baseball, simply for the game itself. Technological societies invent "rules of the road" and construct traffic lights, signs and warnings. We do not take these rules as absolute but realize that they form a system of conduct that allow mass transit to exist. If any confidence results from the use of models and rules, it should come from experience of past events predicted by the models rather than from the thoughts themselves.

Examples of non-beliefs

Many people misunderstand what constitutes belief and what does not. For many, belief has so infiltrated their minds, that everything perceived or thought incorporates a belief for them, including all of their knowledge and experience. This hierarchical, top-down, approach, in effect, puts such a person entirely within a world of solipsistic reasoning. Why? Because all thoughts describe a belief, for them and since beliefs only occur within the mind, every belief refers to the self.

However, beliefs have no bilateral symmetry requirements; although one can believe in knowledge, one can obtain knowledge without owning beliefs; although one certainly accepts their own beliefs, not all things accepted require beliefs.

Consider that if one defined belief to incorporate all forms of thought, then the word belief would become tautological and meaningless, not to mention that knowledge and experience would fall as a subset of belief. Need I remind the reader that words differ not only in their spelling, but in their meanings? The following gives examples of non-beliefs:

Acceptance: Although belief requires some form of acceptance, not all things accepted require belief (beliefs have no bilateral symmetry requirements). Examples: I can accept the premise of a fictional story, but I do not for one moment believe in it. I can accept a scientific hypothesis without believing in it. Computers accept data and produce solutions, but computers have no consciousness, let alone beliefs. Many arguments can take the form of Devil's Advocate to oppose an argument with which the arguer may not necessarily disagree.

Action: Although many people believe in the actions they perform, one can act without beliefs (beliefs have no bilateral symmetry requirements). Actions can occur out of a desire, a submission to an authority, or by unplanned events or even by mechanical means completely absent of humans. Examples: I can act a part without believing in it. I can act from a set of rules, but I do not need to believe the rules. I might act from an order from the police or government. I may act out of a desire to achieve something. There occurs no action which requires belief.

Agreement: Although belief requires some form of agreement, not all agreements represent beliefs (beliefs have no bilateral symmetry requirements). However, for some people (myself included), agreement requires no belief at all. Examples: I might agree that Captain Kirk served aboard the Starship Enterprise, but I hold no beliefs in Star-Trek fiction. I may agree with the rules of football, but I do not need to believe in football in order to understand the game; I may not even like the game! I may agree with any premise, without believing in it.

Knowledge: Knowledge comes from awareness of the world, or understanding gained through experience. Although people may believe in what they know, knowledge has no requirement for belief (beliefs have no bilateral symmetry requirements). Examples: I may have knowledge of a story, poem or song, but I have no need to believe it. I know the rules of many games, but I do not believe in games. I know the mathematics of calculus, but I do not believe in calculus. I have knowledge of information, but I do not believe in information. I have direct knowledge of my existence through sensations, thought, and awareness, but I do not believe I exist: I know I exist (even though I may not know how I exist).

Information: Although many people believe the information they receive, information received does not require belief (again, beliefs have no bilateral symmetry requirements). Examples: the information from books, stories, science, theories, fiction, religion, etc., all represent communicated ideas, but one does not need to believe in any communication in order to utilize it."

from: http://www.nobeliefs.com/beliefs.htm

have you ever heard of this: E-PRIME, abolishing all forms of the verb "to be."
http://www.nobeliefs.com/eprime.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime

[brianv]

Nice ck!

And yes, I have heard of E-Prime, I have this at hand! I don't say much but I do read a lot!

http://www.asiteaboutnothing.net/pdf_tobeornottobe.pdf -- that's To Be or Not To Be!

[HonestlyNow]

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[pov603]

Just watching The War Game which is something along the lines of a Govt produced movie which was made in the 1960s to prepare the general public [in a mockumentary way] for nuclear war.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059894/


Apparently it was deemed to sensitive to show and was not released until some years later when the threat was preceived to have lessened.

Anyway, the narrator, in a very sombre voice at 13.41 says [whilst introducing/showing a GP/Doctor who is part of a committee formed because of the communist threat and impending war] '...established in preparation for a nuclear strike. The time? 9.11 am, September the 18th...'

This was made in 1965! Coincidence of course...

Edit:OMG [how do I say that as an Atheist?]! At 13.59 the Doctor goes to visit someone at their home and knocks on their door. The house number? 119!

[brianv]

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1103/embassies.html

Speaking this evening, Mr Gilmore said the closure of the embassy in the Holy See was not related to the recalling of the Papal Nuncio from Ireland earlier this year.

They omit a block here!

The fish-god representative was recalled after it was revealed that the "Vatican" was blocking investigations into paedophile activities within the alleged "church" in Ireland!