ENDEAVOUR - the 30-year Space Shuttle hoax

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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby Dcopymope on October 5th, 2011, 10:09 pm

lux wrote:
simonshack wrote:Of course, they could have opted to show us normal-looking aerial shots (without those stupid chopper skids swivelling in front of 'the camera'). But I guess the less-than-genius-B-movie producers of the 9/11 movie-for-TV felt the need to make really, really, really sure that television viewers got the impression of seeing the 9/11 events from above - as if they were there themselves, hovering in a TV chopper. As I have often asked in the past, why should we assume that the depraved maniacs behind this heinous hoax were supersmart and infallible?


Yes, I see what you're saying. They think it looks more "cinéma vérité" and therefore more "real" and less staged to have little "errors" like a shaky camera or chopper-skids-in-the-shot. Same with the spider-on-the-lens "error" I suppose. Makes sense to me.

Of course, those who know what's really going on also know that when they see tricks like that it's all the more reason to believe that it IS fake. :D



They are only "supersmart" and "infallible" in that they have a perfect understanding of how we as humans tick, and they develop a number of techniques to manipulate us, starting from birth. They know through mass psychology and history that the masses will believe anything as long as you present it to them the right way, no matter how ridiculous we on this forum think it may be, the masses will buy it hook like & sinker. It’s all a stage play they wrote centuries ago that we have been conditioned from birth to act out, so whatever it is they want to sell to us, they have stick to that script. They may not be “supersmart” or "infallible" in the strictest sense of the terms, but they are extremely clever, like magicians. We may think they are “less-than-genius-B-movie producers”, but that is exactly why the masses believe in it all, because their entire life is a movie or a TV show.
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby lux on October 5th, 2011, 10:59 pm

^ Yes, and anyone who sees through the deception is "crazy."
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby Dcopymope on October 5th, 2011, 11:05 pm

lux wrote:^ Yes, and anyone who sees through the deception is "crazy."


Right, I would say that anyone who see's through the movie is "crazy".
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby Maat on October 5th, 2011, 11:58 pm

Oh my gourd! Talk about "crazy", how about this example of just how far they know they can go and get away with it.

Not to be outdone by American "space shuttle" fakery, the Soviets created their own version, but it was supposedly unmanned and remote controlled! :blink:

Per Wiki:
The Buran spacecraft (Russian: Snowstorm or Blizzard), GRAU index 11F35 K1 was a Russian (Soviet) orbital vehicle (in Russian terminology: "орбитальный самолет", "orbital airplane") analogous in function and design to the US Space Shuttle and developed by Chief Designer Gleb Lozino-Lozinskiy of Energia rocket corporation. To this day, Buran remains the only space shuttle vehicle from the Soviet Buran program that was launched into space before the program closure. The Buran completed one unmanned spaceflight in 1988. The program was cancelled in 1993. In 2002, the Buran was destroyed when the hangar in which it was stored, at the Baikonur cosmodrome, collapsed.[2]

How 'convenient'! :rolleyes:

The only orbital launch of Buran occurred at 3:00 UTC on 15 November 1988 from Baikonur Cosmodrome Site 110/37 [...]
From the very beginning Buran was intended to be used in both fully automatic and manual mode. Although the program accumulated a several-years delay, Buran remained the only space shuttle to ever perform an unmanned flight in fully automatic mode until 22 April 2010 when the US Air Force launched its Boeing X-37 spaceplane.
The automated launch sequence performed as specified, and the Energia rocket lifted the vehicle into a temporary orbit before the orbiter separated as programmed. After boosting itself to a higher orbit and completing two revolutions around the Earth, ODU (engine control system) engines fired automatically to begin the descent into the atmosphere. Exactly 206 minutes into the mission, the Buran orbiter landed, having lost only five of its 38,000 thermal tiles [!] over the course of the flight.[6] The automated landing took place on a runway at Baikonur Cosmodrome where, despite a lateral wind speed of 61.2 kilometres per hour (38.0 mph), it landed only 3 metres (9.8 ft) laterally and 10 metres (33 ft) longitudinally from the target mark.[6] The unmanned flight was the first time that a spacecraft of this size and complexity had been launched, completed maneuvers in orbit, re-entered the atmosphere, and landed under automatic guidance.

Take that, you American amateurs! Image

Right click-> view image for full size:
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"Visitors at the 38th Paris International Air and Space Show at Le Bourget Airfield line up to tour a Soviet An-225 Mechta aircraft that is carrying the Space Shuttle Buran on its back." (by MASTER SGT. DAVE CASEY, 12 June, 1989)
@ http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... 89%29.JPEG

I love the light blue outline around the nose & wing of the shooped "Buran spacecraft" & An-225 , no brightness or color level changes required to see it (+ screwy shadows as usual) ^_^
This image is a work of a U.S. military or Department of Defense employee, taken or made during the course of an employee's official duties. As a work of the U.S. federal government, the image is in the public domain.

[PsyOp message: Ooh looky, those bad, bad Soviets copied us — see how really, really great our technology really is? :P]
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby proloft on October 6th, 2011, 4:38 am

That photo, when viewed in full size, is so horribly faked that even I can see it.

It reminds me of a sticker book that I had as a child; the people, planes, luggage trucks, and the distant guardrail especially,
look like die-cut stickers!
It looks as though the only thing not pasted on is the tarmac itself.

Am I overly enthusiastic here or does anyone else see that?
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Re: BURAN - and the cut-out spaceship stickers

Postby reel.deal on October 6th, 2011, 11:47 am

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Re: deluded kidz - and their delusional stars paintings

Postby reel.deal on October 6th, 2011, 11:49 am

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deer nassa ower teecha got reely cross and mad in class today and i got a F grade and
she skrible over all my stars in my space pikchur and i got a 1 out of 5 stars rating and
then she toled us that we ar silly bad stoopid kids and spacemans sayed you carnt see
any stars in the space and jus becoz we can all see all the stars in the space wiv ower
owned eyes we ar been very silly to paint stars in ower pikchurs and ther is not any
never no stars in space pikchurs photos bye spacemans
love from
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby simonshack on October 7th, 2011, 6:55 pm

Maat wrote:Oh my gourd! Talk about "crazy", how about this example of just how far they know they can go and get away with it.

Not to be outdone by American "space shuttle" fakery, the Soviets created their own version, but it was supposedly unmanned and remote controlled! :blink:

Per Wiki:
The Buran spacecraft (Russian: Snowstorm or Blizzard), GRAU index 11F35 K1 was a Russian (Soviet) orbital vehicle (in Russian terminology: "орбитальный самолет", "orbital airplane") analogous in function and design to the US Space Shuttle and developed by Chief Designer Gleb Lozino-Lozinskiy of Energia rocket corporation. To this day, Buran remains the only space shuttle vehicle from the Soviet Buran program that was launched into space before the program closure. The Buran completed one unmanned spaceflight in 1988. The program was cancelled in 1993. In 2002, the Buran was destroyed when the hangar in which it was stored, at the Baikonur cosmodrome, collapsed.[2]

How 'convenient'! :rolleyes:

The only orbital launch of Buran occurred at 3:00 UTC on 15 November 1988 from Baikonur Cosmodrome Site 110/37 [...]
From the very beginning Buran was intended to be used in both fully automatic and manual mode. Although the program accumulated a several-years delay, Buran remained the only space shuttle to ever perform an unmanned flight in fully automatic mode until 22 April 2010 when the US Air Force launched its Boeing X-37 spaceplane.
The automated launch sequence performed as specified, and the Energia rocket lifted the vehicle into a temporary orbit before the orbiter separated as programmed. After boosting itself to a higher orbit and completing two revolutions around the Earth, ODU (engine control system) engines fired automatically to begin the descent into the atmosphere. Exactly 206 minutes into the mission, the Buran orbiter landed, having lost only five of its 38,000 thermal tiles [!] over the course of the flight.[6] The automated landing took place on a runway at Baikonur Cosmodrome where, despite a lateral wind speed of 61.2 kilometres per hour (38.0 mph), it landed only 3 metres (9.8 ft) laterally and 10 metres (33 ft) longitudinally from the target mark.[6] The unmanned flight was the first time that a spacecraft of this size and complexity had been launched, completed maneuvers in orbit, re-entered the atmosphere, and landed under automatic guidance.

Take that, you American amateurs! Image



I presume you have somehow missed the dedicated Buran thread, Maat? http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=968

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I have a feeling you're gonna love it ! :lol:
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby Maat on October 7th, 2011, 11:58 pm

simonshack wrote:I presume you have somehow missed the dedicated Buran thread, Maat?
http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=968

I have a feeling you're gonna love it ! :lol:

:lol: You're right, Simon, I did miss the Buran thread and I certainly do love it! :lol:
(The Chinese "weightless" fakery was priceless too! :rolleyes: )

So I guess I only added further confirmation to their obvious 'joint venture' shuttle silliness with this stoopid fauxto & caption :D:
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@ http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... 89%29.JPEG
"Visitors at the 38th Paris International Air and Space Show at Le Bourget Airfield line up to tour a Soviet An-225 Mechta aircraft that is carrying the Space Shuttle Buran on its back." (by MASTER SGT. DAVE CASEY, 12 June, 1989)
This image is a work of a U.S. military or Department of Defense employee, taken or made during the course of an employee's official duties. As a work of the U.S. federal government, the image is in the public domain.

** Including their 'coincidentally' favorite numbers too, of course (Numerological addition & reduction to single digits, except 'master numbers': 11, 22, 33):
"38th": 3 + 8 = 11 & "12 June 1989" - 3 + 6 + 9 = 9
Number on the An-225 plane: "387" = 9 or 11+7
"Launch of Buran ('snowjob'): 3:00 UTC on 15 November 1988" — 3 + 15 = 9 + 11 (full date, 15-11-1988 = 7)
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby Maat on October 9th, 2011, 10:55 am

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The 1st Scuttled Shuttle Scam: Challenger

When I started looking into the "Challenger" and its "Disaster" (of a) story, a number of things hit me like a "flying brick"!
i.e. The repetitively familiar numbers (starting from Apollo 11 on) in dates, times etc., crew members' origins, and implausible 'events' in the plot lines. Quite apart from every "photo" being a lousy shoop job!

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@ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Space ... TS-6._.jpg

Space Shuttle Challenger (NASA Orbiter Vehicle Designation: OV-099) was NASA's second Space Shuttle orbiter to be put into service, Columbia having been the first.... Its maiden flight was on April 4, 1983 [=11], and it completed nine missions before breaking apart 73 seconds after the launch of its tenth mission, STS-51-L [51+L=3=9] on January 28, 1986 [1+28=11], resulting in the death of all seven crew members.


The "Challenger Disaster":
The spacecraft disintegrated over [*9 miles above] the Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of central Florida at 11:38 am [11 + 11=22] EST (16:38 UTC) [7+11].

On March 8 [3+8=11], 1986, a search team found the crew cabin; it had not been destroyed in the explosion. The bodies of all seven crew members were found, still strapped into their seats....
Autopsies were done but exact cause of death was inconclusive.
* 48,000 feet = 9.09090909 miles

NASA history: Kerwin, Joseph P. (1986). "Challenger crew cause and time of death"

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@ http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... 001867.jpg – Ref http://grin.hq.nasa.gov/ABSTRACTS/GPN-2000-001867.html
[Update note: http://www.challenger.org/about/gallery.cfm has been removed]

Crew members:
Francis R. Scobee – Mission Commander — Apparently no life or pictures outside NASA (very 'vicsimmy')
Michael J. Smith – Pilot — Same + "Smith was portrayed by Brian Kerwin in the 1990 TV movie Challenger".
Judith A. Resnik – Mission Specialist 1 — First American Jewish astro-not; 1st Jewish woman 'in space'. Recruited by "Lt. Uhura" of Star Trek, Nichelle Nichols, for NASA
Ellison S. Onizuka – Mission Specialist 2 — 1st Asian American 'in space'
Ronald E. McNair – Mission Specialist 3 — 2nd African-American astronaut. Also recruited by Nichelle Nichols
Gregory B. Jarvis – Payload Specialist 1 — **
Christa McAuliffe – Payload Specialist 2 — 1st "Teacher in Space" & subject of full scale media propaganda campaign for the "mission".
**The remains of all seven astronauts from the Challenger disaster were discovered in the crew decks on the ocean floor. Gregory Jarvis' remains were discovered in the lower mid-deck along with fellow astronaut Ronald McNair and school teacher Christa McAuliffe. During salvage operations to raise the crew deck from the ocean floor, Jarvis' body escaped from the wreckage, floated to the surface, and disappeared back into the sea. On April 15, 1986 [=7], on the last scheduled attempt to recover wreckage, Jarvis' body was rediscovered and returned to shore.

From Time Magazine:
[Dr. Marvin Resnik, father of Judith Resnik]. The Resniks want no funeral service; they have asked NASA to cremate their daughter's remains and scatter them over the ocean, where Challenger met its end. [ :blink: ]
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... -4,00.html

'Scraping the bottom' with more grotesque idiocy from MSNBC:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3078060#.To_wOnL7_kU

Main indoctrination center:
http://www.challenger.org/

Photos of the Challenger crew in 'training' at NASA: http://www.challenger.org/about/gallery.cfm
(Note: that 'photo gallery' is very hard to find on the site, 1st found via Google images!)


Nichelle Nichols, NASA Recruiter:
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@ NASA's GRIN site (Great Images in NASA)
Actress Nichelle Nichols was born in Robbins, Illinois on December 29, 1936. She played Lieutenant Uhura the Communications Officer on the U.S.S. Enterprise in the original series, Star Trek. ...
From the late 1970's until the late 1980's, NASA employed Nichelle Nichols to recruit new astronaut candidates. Many of her new recruits were women or members of racial and ethnic minorities, including Guion Bluford (the first African-American astronaut), Sally Ride (the first female American astronaut), Judith Resnik (one of the original set of female astronauts, who perished during the launch of the Challenger on January 28, 1986), and Ronald McNair (the second African-American astronaut, and another victim of the Challenger accident).

Wiki:
After a 32-month hiatus, the next shuttle mission, STS-26 [7th flight of the Discovery], was launched on September 29 [9+11], 1988


Where it began: Space Shuttle Enterprise

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@ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Enter ... flight.jpg
The Space Shuttle Enterprise (NASA Orbiter Vehicle Designation: OV-101) was the first Space Shuttle orbiter. It was built for NASA as part of the Space Shuttle program to perform test flights in the atmosphere.[2] It was constructed without engines or a functional heat shield, and was therefore not capable of spaceflight....

Construction began on Enterprise on June 4, 1974. ...originally planned to be named Constitution and unveiled on Constitution Day, September 17, 1976 [hidden 22]. A write-in campaign by Trekkies to President Gerald Ford asked that the orbiter be named after the Starship Enterprise, featured on the television show Star Trek. Although Ford did not mention the campaign, the president—who during World War II had served on the aircraft carrier USS Monterey (CVL-26) that served with USS Enterprise (CV-6)—said that he was "partial to the name" and overrode NASA officials.
That's their story :P

On January 31, 1977 [=11], it was taken by road to Dryden Flight Research Center at Edwards Air Force Base, to begin operational testing.
[...]
The initial nine-month testing period was referred to by the acronym ALT, for "Approach and Landing Test". These tests included a maiden "flight" on February 18 [=11], 1977 atop a Boeing 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA) to measure structural loads and ground handling and braking characteristics of the mated system.
[...]
On August 12 [=11], 1977, the space shuttle Enterprise flew on its own for the first time.

Retirement:
With the completion of critical testing, Enterprise was partially disassembled to allow certain components to be reused in other shuttles, then underwent an international tour visiting France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom, Canada, and the U.S. states of California, Alabama, and Louisiana (during the 1984 Louisiana World Exposition). It was also used to fit-check the never-used shuttle launch pad at Vandenberg AFB, California. Finally, on November 18 [=11+9], 1985 [total=7], Enterprise was ferried to Washington, D.C., where it became property of the Smithsonian Institution.

Beginning as an imaginary spaceship on a TV series,
Star Trek did continue: written and produced by NASA!


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@ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_S ... 001363.jpg
The Shuttle Enterprise rolls out of the Palmdale manufacturing facilities with Star Trek television cast members. From left to right they are: Dr. James D. Fletcher, NASA Administrator, DeForest Kelley (Dr. "Bones" McCoy), George Takei (Mr. Sulu), James Doohan (Chief Engineer Montgomery "Scotty" Scott), Nichelle Nichols (Lt. Uhura), Leonard Nimoy (the indefatigable Mr. Spock), Gene Rodenberry (The Great Bird of the Galaxy), and Walter Koenig (Ensign Pavel Checkov). Date: 17 September 1976. Author: NASA
Source: Great Images in NASA

And they're obviously still 'grinning' from ear to ear <_<

If their obsession with 7, 9, 11 numerology isn't bad enough, the fact that they would actually need or use a Sci-Fi TV actress to recruit astronauts should be enough to know just how 'real' the "Space Shuttle Program" was. :rolleyes:
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby simonshack on October 9th, 2011, 1:22 pm

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:lol: I was also once recruited to fly the Enterprise !


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtXATrfC9HQ
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby Maat on October 9th, 2011, 2:15 pm

Exquisite irony, eh Mr Shock? Image Looks like that one just boomeranged on 'em Image
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby lux on October 15th, 2011, 1:50 pm

Maat wrote:
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More inconsistent & fake flash shadows.
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby Maat on October 15th, 2011, 9:37 pm

lux wrote:More inconsistent & fake flash shadows.

Oh yes, it's a cheesy one. But out of the 16 in that 'gallery', this 1st one takes the cake don't you think?:

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@ http://www.challenger.org/about/gallery.cfm?index=1 [Edit NOTE: the original gallery in which this image was posted has since been removed! :ph34r: ]
"(From left) Ellison Onizuka, Barbara Morgan (Teacher in Space alternate), Dick Scobee, Christa McAuliffe, Judy Resnik, Michael Smith, and Ron McNair."
Mr Ozinuka shoulda left those Disney 'shrooms alone too eh! :blink: :rolleyes:
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Re: ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

Postby lux on October 16th, 2011, 12:17 am

Maat wrote:
lux wrote:More inconsistent & fake flash shadows.

Oh yes, it's a cheesy one. But out of the 16 in that 'gallery', this 1st one takes the cake don't you think?:

Image
@ http://www.challenger.org/about/gallery.cfm?index=1
"(From left) Ellison Onizuka, Barbara Morgan (Teacher in Space alternate), Dick Scobee, Christa McAuliffe, Judy Resnik, Michael Smith, and Ron McNair."
Mr Ozinuka shoulda left those Disney 'shrooms alone too eh! :blink: :rolleyes:



Enlarging above photo section between Michael Smith & Ron McNair (I only added arrows & numbers and brought up levels a bit):

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1. Mystery white object on Smith's arm (looks like leftover image fragment from another photo)
2. Odd horizontal lines here - seems to split Smith's hand and continues onto McNair's arm
3. Odd pixel blocking on McNair's arm (like arm was drawn in with a clone tool or copy/paste)

I also notice some crew have ID tags and some don't. My guess is it's a composite photo shopped together from 2 or more others.

But, why? (one might ask)
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