ENDEAVOUR - and the spaced-out NASA efforts

[Jonathan]

@ reel.deal
I really appreciate your work, even more the humor you do it with,
although it is sometimes hard for me to comprehend.
...because I'm not native to the english ... and I might sometimes miss out on some pointe.

Cheers

[reel.deal]

ISS-11_Discovery_heat_shield_photograph

The sun is low against the clouds, the long shadows cast directly to the left, or 'WEST'...
The sun is high against the shuttles' burners, the short shadows cast are projected NORTH N/W...





That reminds me, i must bring that washing in...

[Jonathan]

@reel.deal
and once again - nice work, particularly on the first one!
I'll stop that now - be sure of my appreciation...

[reel.deal]

ya know...
This threads just over 3 months old, none of us had even considered the NASA Shuttle missions could be fake.
Personally, i just kinda presumed NASA would have got their shit together & were just relieved to have left
all the 'moon-landings' with 'moon-frogs' far behind. Innocent, naive me.

This thread is exactly what makes this forum great, the only site that always dares to go where all others
fear to tread. Its the international and collaborative analysis that works so well... Thanks for the props,
i think your posts are on point aswell...
salut ! sante ! prost !

[Jonathan]

yea I know

and I was reluctant - as always before...

... but not anymore.

What I've seen now ... here - and have been pointed to...

Not reluctant anymore but open to what is - or seems to be.

It does not scare me - it opens a whole lot of other possibilities besides of that what we are shown.

Not bad neccesarily - but different from what we are lead to believe by these pictures.

...no conclusions yet, except that most all of the visual evidence is ... not real...

(for whatever reason - quite obvious to me in some cases, not so in others like this one...)

I think I'd like "sante !"

but it's gonna be:
prost !


[edit]
gps:
51.284387,12.336524
the green arrow a little down from "A" in google maps
the lake I'll be swimming in at 10 am tomorrow morning

Have a nice one!

[fbenario]

This threads just over 3 months old, none of us had even considered the NASA Shuttle missions could be fake.

I think the clear implication of all Simon's work on shuttle images/videos is that the shuttle missions were faked.

[reel.deal]

http://www.universetoday.com/26623/how-fast-does-the-earth-rotate/

hmm... so the earth spins @ 1,040mph/1,675km/h, 465 meters/second. thats more like it.
NASA... 'spins' @ '17,000mph'...
really.

[Jonathan]

17.000 mph
really?

yes, assuming the propositions are correct

Earths diameter is about 12.750 km.
ISS orbits at about 353 km above the ground.
Thats a circle of 13.456 km diameter.
Circumference is roughly: 42.273 km
@ 91 minutes orbital period that is a speed of 27.872 km/h
or 17.319 mph

close enough

(12750+353+353)⋅3,1416⋅60/91⋅0,621371

[edit] corrected - I left out half the height

[reel.deal]

EARTH ROTATION RATE: 1040mph x 24901.5 miles. Spinning one revolution in 23 hours, 56 minutes and 4.1 seconds.
SHUTTLE EARTH ORBIT: 17000mph x 26000 miles. Spinning one revolution in 1 hour 30 minutes. 16 revolutions = 1 day.

http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudent ... e_5-8.html

How long does it take the space shuttle to reach the space station?
About 66 hours... or '48' ?

So thats x 50 shuttle EARTH orbit rotations before it catches the '17,500mph' ISS...
50 times round the earth.
right!

How many laps round the moon did the LEM take to catch back up to Apollo 11 then ?...
hmmm... Apollo 11 went to the moon, faffed around for at least couple days,
return-voyaged yet another 250,000 miles,
then landed in the Atlantic...
in 6 days flat.

It takes the space-shuttle 3 days just to reach the ISS INTERNATIONAL SPACE-STATION.
'200 MILES UP'...
What the hell they doing ?!?

[reel.deal]

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/videogallery/index.html?media_id=108444791

YO, NA$A!
I'M VERY SORRY, YES YOU ARE RIGHT, ITS TOO DARK TO SEE ANY STARS IN SPACE.
I WATCHED YOUR ISS IRENE VIDEOS & SEE THAT THE STARS ARE TOO DIM TO EVER VIDEO OR PHOTOGRAPH.
IF YOU COULD SEE ANY STARS IN SPACE THEN THEY WOULD SHOW UP AS FIXED POINTS OF LIGHT ON THESE
KERAYZEE CUT-N-SPLICED TO SHIT 2 MINUTE-EXPOSURE CLIPS...

I'VE GOT IT NOW, POINT ANY FIX-MOUNTED STILL OR VIDEO-CAMERA AT THE STARS FOR A 120-SECONDS EXPOSURE AND...
NOTHING.
YOU CAN POINT ANY CAMERA, ANY EXPOSURE TIME - AT THE SUN... NADA. SOLID BLACK VOID.
GOT IT.
RED MARS? SRARKLING VENUS? THAT WE'VE ALL SEEN FROM EARTH WITH OUR OWN NAKED EYES...
IN SPACE ? FORGET IT...

I FEEL SO STUPID NOW... EXPECTING TO SEE REAL PHOTOS AND VIDEOS OF THE SUN & STARS IN SPACE.
JUST BECAUSE I SEE THEM FROM EARTH - WITH MY OWN EYES! ...WHAT AN IDIOT!

THANKS FOR THE FEW FUN FAKED PRETEND IMAGES OF STARS IN SPACE YOU GAVE US.
THANKS FOR THE FEW FUN FAKED PRETEND IMAGES OF THE SUN...
ITS TOO DARK IN SPACE TO SEE THE SUN.
NOW I UNDERSTAND.
NO $TARS.
NO $UN.

[pov603]

Note that the above images were 'technically' taken from space as apparently 100km and above qualifies therefore if these were taken at 65miles, that about suffices.
I was intrigued by the fact that the curvature of the earth does not have any stars visible and even if the Engineers on the ground were desperate to see the Earth from 'space' surely enough of them would be wondering whether space and the stars viewed outside of the atmosphere looked the same as those visible at night through the atmosphere.

Looks like they do look different!

Photos were taken from a link at the website below:

http://www.airspacemag.com/space-explor ... Photo.html

[simonshack]

This threads just over 3 months old, none of us had even considered the NASA Shuttle missions could be fake.

I think the clear implication of all Simon's work on shuttle images/videos is that the shuttle missions were faked.

Indeed. That is the implication.

In due time, I will put together a summary of this thread. Right now, the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 hoax is coming up - so we'll have to focus on that. However, I now believe the NASA image-fakery staff was involved in the farcical 9/11 imagery.

[reel.deal]

Fell upon this... - http://www.jonathanhagos.com/teaching/the-pursuit-of-flighta-fear-of-falling/

This is Joseph Kittinger. The performance I want to show you is footage from his participation in Project Excelsior.


Between 1959 and 1960, Kittinger, then of the United States Air-Force took part in three such projects.
Kittinger's first jump was made from about 76.000 feet, a malfunction in his parachute caused it to open after
2 seconds into his fall, it wrapped around his neck causing him to lose consciousness. He went into a spin of
120 revolutions per minute, where the G force at his extremities were calculated to be over 22 times the force
of gravity. Fortunately Kittinger was jolted from unconsciousness by his automatic emergency parachute.
Three weeks later he performed his second jump was from 74,700 feet with no reported incidents.


On his third and final jump, this time from 102,000 feet the pressurization for his right glove malfunctioned
causing his hand to swell up to 4 times its normal size.
He fell for four minutes and 36 seconds, reaching a maximum sped of 614 miles per hour, setting, amongst
other records, the fastest speed by a human being through the atmosphere of the earth


This is an excerpt from a lecture I gave at Oxford Brookes University called 'The Pursuits of Flight/A Fear of Falling'
- which you can see here.
The Man who fell from Space - by Jonathan Hagos
http://vimeo.com/21619868

How high does the "space" shuttle orbit, again ?!?

[Unleashed]

Good question, Reel Deal.
As I stated on another post, I saw the shuttle once.
I live about 300 or so miles north of Kennedy.
When I saw it, it had already levelled out horizontally.
It was probably 25 miles East of my position maybe and from my vantage point
roughly a mile up. Not much more, I wouldn't think. I saw it above a treeline that started 400ft.
from where I was standing. The trees being about 90ft high. If I placed my thumb even with the treeline and raised the index finger of my right hand, it would have been about 2-3 inches above it.
Whatever that calculates out to be. Far lower than I was expecting it to be. I watched it for almost 3 seconds.

Obvious rooster tail of flame out the back as it headed Northeasterly.
Somewhere, but obviously not UP.

[reel.deal]

These 2 'photos' look to be around 30,000 & 40,000 ft up. NA$A would for sure cry 'telephoto-foreshortening'
if challenged about it, but then, how far apart can the ISS international space station & space-shuttle
actually be, if the shuttle cargo doors are open ? Its just gotta be pure bullshit... straight up.
The shuttle would ONLY EVER have the doors open if engaging directly with the space-station...

These images are for dramatic effect, but fail completely. Its miles too low, literally,
& would drop like a brick out of the sky, if the pics were 'real'...
30.000'ft = 5.68181 miles. The 'Irene'-tracking ISS said they are 240 miles up.

What a joke !!! The shuttles' altitude is approximately 97.63257917 % off...
This doors-open 'cargo-deploying' shuttle is at 2.4 % of the altitude of the ISS its 'docking with' !!!
This is just beyond stupid. ha ha ha! ...un-freekin'-real !
Shuttle levelling-off already within sight, you say ? ...interesting...