9/11 SIMCITY

It has taken less than 10 years to pry open the can of worms enshrouding the pathetic 9/11 scam. The central role of the major newsmedia corporations to pull off this sordid "terror" simulation has now been comprehensively exposed. Before joining this forum, please get familiar with the research at: http://www.septemberclues.info

Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Postby simonshack on April 8th, 2011, 4:23 pm

Terence.drew wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za7KcfagFQE&feature=feedf

An Analysis of WKNY footage featuring transparent people converging shadows and babies whose hair grows wildly over a few seconds.

The voice of the narrator ... have heard it before but can't place it.


Oh yes - it's "911SPLIT SECOND" by Yotube user Seeknowevil. He sent a link to me the other day and I meant to post it here but it slipped out of my mind - thanks Terencedrew.

All 11 parts are well worth watching - he's done a really good job and his voice over is crisp and articulate. We've been exchanging a few mails and, apparently, he had not seen all of my clips such as FOXED OUT and SYNCHED out, so I sent him the links.
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Postby reel.deal on April 8th, 2011, 4:54 pm

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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Postby simonshack on April 8th, 2011, 8:02 pm

Great post reel.deal ! :) I've also been working on the WTC collapse-imagery today. Here you go:
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THE SWAYING ANTENNA
(Note: all dotted lines are vertically aligned/parallel with the body of the WTC building)

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Pictures 1-2-3 are frames from a video credited to one “Etienne Sauret”, a French filmmaker who allegedly roamed around Manhattan filming the morning’s events. It is a quite steady shot, seemingly filmed with a tripod-mounted camera. At no time in the clip do we see the WTC antenna leaning West: as the collapse starts, it gently comes straight down and then tilts/falls progressively Eastwards. 1-2-3.

Picture A is a frame from an anonymous ‘Camera Planet’ video (from Steven Rosenbaum’s perp archive). It is a very jerky, seemingly hand-held shot, and the full antenna is only briefly framed such as in this split-second instant (A). I’ve applied a red-scale filter to it for the purpose of this analysis - just to distinguish it from the Sauret sequence. This antenna clearly tilts Westwards.

The very first observation we may do here is that PictureA and Picture1 appear to represent the exact same moment in time. We can verify that by comparing the smoke patterns. This moment occurs within 1 second of the start of the WTC1 collapse. Admittedly, the full height of the antenna is not shown in Sauret’s shot. Yet, if you have a chance to watch the full Sauret video, you will notice that the antenna, (from its perfectly vertical pre-collapse position) never sways in any direction in the first few seconds of the collapse; it then proceeds to tilt Eastwards decisively, and disappears in the smoke.

Before we go any further, let us look at the (slightly different) perspectives of these 2 videos: to be perfectly honest, I have not been able to identify the (apparently identical) building seen at left of both shots. However, given the exceptional height of the WTC towers in relation to other NYC buildings, what we see here appears optically absurd. Where are these 2 cameramen located? Are these views even possible from any existing vantage point in Manhattan, however distant from the WTC? In any case, no existing zoom lens can focus a nearby building as sharply as a distant one.

And the final question is: how can the antenna be tilting West in Picture A? To be sure, and as long as we trust Isaac Newton, we may raise fundamental questions as to the physics of this occurrence: can a pencil placed upright on a milk carton sway first right – then left - if the milk carton collapses? How about a 110m tall antenna? <_<


The "ETIENNE SAURET" WTC1 collapse clip:Image
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Postby SmokingGunII on April 8th, 2011, 8:42 pm

Hi Simon

Whilst I wouldn't wish to claim that the footage you are analysing is real, the angles you are disputing are very possible. The antenna is, in fact falling backwards and not to one side. From "Sauret's position" the antenna would appear to fall slightly east. From the Rosenbaum collection of fakes, the perpective would make the antenna appear to fall to the west. We can see from the CP image (showing the side of the mysterious building) that it is shot from much further west. Thus, the antenna falling backwards would appear to fall west is consistent.

Fake but not impossible.
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Postby nonhocapito on April 8th, 2011, 8:57 pm

SmokingGunII wrote:Hi Simon

Whilst I wouldn't wish to claim that the footage you are analysing is real, the angles you are disputing are very possible. The antenna is, in fact falling backwards and not to one side. From "Sauret's position" the antenna would appear to fall slightly east. From the Rosenbaum collection of fakes, the perpective would make the antenna appear to fall to the west. We can see from the CP image (showing the side of the mysterious building) that it is shot from much further west. Thus, the antenna falling backwards would appear to fall west is consistent.

Fake but not impossible.


I'm not sure about the different angle, because the perspective of the tower is more or less the same.
I would love a gif of the camera planet video next to it for comparison, but it does seem a serious inconsistency...
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Postby SmokingGunII on April 8th, 2011, 9:33 pm

Nonho - I wouldn't worry too much about perspectives from fake imagery - much rather concentrate on the mysterious building on the left. I would be grateful if somebody could tell me it's location.
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Postby reel.deal on April 8th, 2011, 10:10 pm

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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Postby nonhocapito on April 9th, 2011, 12:05 am

SmokingGunII wrote:Nonho - I wouldn't worry too much about perspectives from fake imagery - much rather concentrate on the mysterious building on the left. I would be grateful if somebody could tell me it's location.


You just discussed angles and perspective. Why then should I not worry about it? :blink:
The point of the tower being seen from the same angle is that not being much difference of POV, the antenna should fall the same direction. :P
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Postby simonshack on April 9th, 2011, 1:37 am

SmokingGunII wrote: We can see from the CP image (showing the side of the mysterious building) that it is shot from much further west. Thus, the antenna falling backwards would appear to fall west is consistent.

Fake but not impossible.


Dear Smoking Gun,

"Much further West"? Well, let's stay serious, my friend: If it's the same 'mysterious building' on both shots, the 2 cameramen still have it clearly framed in the (left) foreground of their shots. So they must be filming, in any event, from the same street. So how much "further West" can that be? And would that slight vantage point difference explain the different antenna angles/tilts?

But hey, are you familiar with Manhattan? If so, please help me understand where these shots were taken from. Keep in mind that the 'mystery building' appears taller than the twin towers themselves... :P

Last, but not least: how did Mr.Sauret keep both the mystery building AND the WTC in perfect focus?
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Postby Heiwa on April 9th, 2011, 6:36 am

simonshack wrote:The "ETIENNE SAURET" WTC1 collapse clip:Image


NIST suggests that fire/heat weakened the steel columns in perimeter walls and the inner core so that the top part C above the fire zone (filled with smoke) could drop down on the bottom part A below the fire zone (not filled with smoke) and crush A into rubble B. Top part C should therefore be intact all the time while crushing down A.
It is not seen on the faked Sauret video. Top C apparently disappears (or is smashed to pieces?) and is replaced by smoke puffing out in all directions. It is physically impossible. Prove me wrong and I pay you € 1 million!! http://heiwaco.tripod.com/chall.htm or http://heiwaco.tripod.com/tower.htm .
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Postby Heiwa on April 9th, 2011, 9:51 am

I have described the faked, animated destruction of WTC1 at http://heiwaco.tripod.com/nist3.htm and below; Pictures are copied from faked video available on Internet:
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Fig. A1 - The upper part C (floors 97-110 + mast) rests on the lower part! Destruction has not started. At right insert is shown upper part in original position. The smoke doesn't look very convincing! So much smoke from a little office fire?
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Fig. A2 - Destruction and collision (sic) have started!! The upper part C (floors 97-110 + mast) (95% air) is destroyed (using Photoshop!), while roof line and mast move down 5 floors or 18-19 meters. It, the upper part, should however remain intact and not get smaller and it should now crush down WTC 1 lower structure according US authorities! The animators are doing a lousy job! They add ejected, false smoke to cover up their mistakes, Hollywood style!
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Fig. A3 - The upper part C (floors 97-110 + mast) is completely destroyed,i.e. removed by Photoshop, but mast can still be seen. Debris is ejected sideways at high velocity. This is obvious fake animation - top Photoshopped and more smoke added! Why would debris be ejected sideways?
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Fig. A4 - The WTC 1 lower structure top part explodes in a cascade of debris! The upper part C and mast is fully destroyed or removed and cannot produce the destruction of the lower part. What we see! It looks as if a bomb has gone off inside WTC 1 blowing debris sideways. No upper part C is crushing down anything here, i.e. what you see is a Photoshopped, Hollywood animation.
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Fig. A5 - More debris is thrown out sideways (more bombs go off!) and false smoke is ejected upwards! Evidently not a result of the upper part C being intact and crushing down lower structure as per US authorities. It, the upper part, has already disappeared or gone up in Photoshopped smoke. The animators add more smoke for effect!
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Fig. A6 - There is no sign of an intact upper part crushing WTC 1! Why does US authorities suggest that a skyscraper can be destroyed by a small top upper part one-way crushing down (sic) much stronger, bigger structure below by gravity and fire up top? Anybody can see on animated photos above that WTC1 is blown apart from top down and that the upper part is blown apart first. It cannot happen in reality, i.e. what we see is an animation, Hollywood style. It was also shown 'live on TV' in USA on all five major TV channels. Imagine that! Faked footage was shown live on TV on 911! I pay anybody €uro 1M proving me wrong!
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Postby SmokingGunII on April 10th, 2011, 7:32 pm

simonshack wrote:
SmokingGunII wrote: We can see from the CP image (showing the side of the mysterious building) that it is shot from much further west. Thus, the antenna falling backwards would appear to fall west is consistent.

Fake but not impossible.


Dear Smoking Gun,

"Much further West"? Well, let's stay serious, my friend: If it's the same 'mysterious building' on both shots, the 2 cameramen still have it clearly framed in the (left) foreground of their shots. So they must be filming, in any event, from the same street. So how much "further West" can that be? And would that slight vantage point difference explain the different antenna angles/tilts?

But hey, are you familiar with Manhattan? If so, please help me understand where these shots were taken from. Keep in mind that the 'mystery building' appears taller than the twin towers themselves... :P

Last, but not least: how did Mr.Sauret keep both the mystery building AND the WTC in perfect focus?



Simon

With reference to your first paragraph - I would be quite confident in saying that the two cameraman (if they exist) would not be in the same street. The tower is in the far distance, which means that any change of perspective from the viewpoint would make little difference to the perspective of the tower, but objects nearby, such as the mysterious building would show noticable differences.

Am I familair with Manhattan? well, I've only been there once but have know most of it intimately thorugh my research over the years. This is why I ask the question for somebody to identify the "mysterious" building for me. I can't. And I have no idea how far from WTC it is supposed to be. You appear to have the same problem. :)

Finally, I very much doubt Suaret's footage is genuine but it is certainly possible to have near and far objects in focus even with a telephoto lens, distorting perspective.

http://damncoolpics.blogspot.com/2007/0 ... sions.html



As I said. If anyone can identify the mysterious building, I would be very appreciative. Or perhaps we should ask Etienne where he was positioned when he shot his footage?
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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Postby reel.deal on April 11th, 2011, 9:45 pm

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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Postby SmokingGunII on April 12th, 2011, 9:21 pm

Great find, RD. :)

I have added Suaret's location to my basic 3d of Manhattan, which I created originally to question the Naudet vantage point and have since added more of the camera witness locations. Anyway, below is the result from Sauret (I have given him an eye level of 20m and added the height of 101 AofA which is 92m). As I would expect, whether the footage is tampered with or not, the angles all hold out. The other reddish building is B7.

Not sure what the metal pole could be at that height, though?

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Re: 9/11 SIMCITY

Postby reel.deal on April 13th, 2011, 12:04 am

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