9/11 and SEPTEMBER CLUES

[brianv]

"this is the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen, had you actually been there and seen the splattered people on the ground that jumped from the building maybe you would pull your head out of your ass, show some respect you piss poor excuse for a human being, i hope to God your not an American"

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Im 23 years old from a small town in CT. I recently joined the US Army as a 19K(m1 armor crewman). Any questions i will be happy to answer

What, as a 14 YO Christopher doing at the WTC on Sept 11 2001?

http://www.youtube.com/user/countryboy910

I see he's commented on my old pal Muckeltoon's channel also!

"@muckletoon your a fucking retard, it was all an optical illusion huh? show some respect you piece fo sh#t"

[hoi.polloi]

That's amusing, brian. What's with 14 year old know-it-alls?

Must be one of those teenage years.

[brianv]

***Stop Press***

Simon's latest Video "Synched Out" Removed from YT !!!

"This video has been removed due to terms of use violation. "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XHv0PAdeUs

[simonshack]

SYNCHED OUT (original)
can be viewed here :
http://septemberclues.info/faq_1.htm


SYNCHED OUT NEW (at 2Xspeed)
http://www.blip.tv/file/4111297



Youtube has censored it.

But already 8 YT users have re-uploaded it: THANKS TO ALL ! :)

[hoi.polloi]

September Clues is out of bandwidth again. We'll have to check when that happened once we upgrade our monthly limit again ...

[hoi.polloi]

It's back. Holy crap! Users are draining a quarter million megabytes per month from our server. Looks like things are really picking up!

Here's some of our present internal stats, arranged in columns:

Month --- Daily Unique Visits to SeptemberClues.info --- Daily Links to forum.septemberclues.info
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2009
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October --- 206 --- 0

... later ...

2010
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March --- 313 --- 9
April --- 228 --- 16
May --- 227 --- 13
June --- 258 --- 16
July --- 339 --- 12
August --- 417 --- 15
September --- 778 --- 15 (at this rate, we doubled our visitors between August and September and tripled between early spring and September)

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Most popular pages by hits for this month (sept 2010):

#1. (61,000+ hits) http://www.septemberclues.info/vicsims_ ... alyses.htm (on average 3,600 hits per day!)
#2. (60,000+ hits) http://www.septemberclues.info/wtc_airplanes.htm
#3. (42,000+ hits) http://www.septemberclues.info/1sthalf.htm

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Source of hits:



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Approximately 50% of the users who visit the front page click on to the second half of Simon's groundbreaking documentary. (This is a handy divider, because it tells us some portion of that 50% are probably new viewers who haven't seen the second half before.)

CONGRATULATIONS TO SIMON SHACK and ALL THE HELP ON THIS SITE!
Progress is being made.
The number of people who understand this ... is growing.
The perps are even endorsing "September Clues" only to protect their other long-term fakery assets like the Nuke and the Moon Hoax or 7/7.

Let's expose 9/11 and then expose them all for the hoaxes they are.

WE ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE and MAKING THE WORLD A MORE PEACEFUL PLACE!

[simonshack]

WE ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE and MAKING THE WORLD A MORE PEACEFUL PLACE!

:) I love it ! :)
Thanks to ALL indeed !

[brianv]

http://www.ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/R ... pymove.pdf

[idschmyd]

http://www.ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/R ... pymove.pdf

| xij ? xi+k mod(M) j+l mod(N) |, k = 0, 1, ?, M?1, l = 0, 1, ?, N?1 for all i and j.


Interesting read. Shelves steeply when it begins to talk science of image inspection. The above logic of Exhaustive Search means little to me. Do you think these techniques can be employed as of now to get a more scientific opinion on less obviously fake images?

[brianv]

http://www.ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/R ... pymove.pdf

| xij ? xi+k mod(M) j+l mod(N) |, k = 0, 1, ?, M?1, l = 0, 1, ?, N?1 for all i and j.


Interesting read. Shelves steeply when it begins to talk science of image inspection. The above logic of Exhaustive Search means little to me. Do you think these techniques can be employed as of now to get a more scientific opinion on less obviously fake images?

Id, one of the most common photograph altering techniques is the "copy-move". Here's a little demo of what it is and the results of a new Gimp plugin that detects such a forgery.

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It's not ideal but it's a start. Interesting that it was sponsored by the so-called military - not the plugin, the research and numbers that you found so daunting.

[idschmyd]

Interesting that it was sponsored by the so-called military - not the plugin, the research and numbers that you found so daunting.

Yea, noticed the military sponsors. Thanks for the example above. So I understand Gimp can search images for evidence of copy-move and splicing. Did the software add the green and red areas, or is that your addition to highlight the relevant zones?

If there's a moment in the schedule, I'd like to know what Gimp can make of an example image. This one is a biggy from "9/11 photographers" thread, so I'll not post it again. Its the one of Pfeiffer in fetching yellow at the WTC wasteland. Visual observer doubts the relation of foreground and background, at least.


http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n51 ... TC-120.jpg

[nonhocapito]

Its the one of Pfeiffer in fetching yellow at the WTC wasteland. Visual observer doubts the relation of foreground and background, at least.

Pfeiffer! Are you sure? I was asking who this guy was in the other thread... Pfeifer was Chief of Battalion 1, not 52. Why the wrong helmet?

[brianv]

Interesting that it was sponsored by the so-called military - not the plugin, the research and numbers that you found so daunting.

Yea, noticed the military sponsors. Thanks for the example above. So I understand Gimp can search images for evidence of copy-move and splicing. Did the software add the green and red areas, or is that your addition to highlight the relevant zones?

If there's a moment in the schedule, I'd like to know what Gimp can make of an example image. This one is a biggy from "9/11 photographers" thread, so I'll not post it again. Its the one of Pfeiffer in fetching yellow at the WTC wasteland. Visual observer doubts the relation of foreground and background, at least.


http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n51 ... TC-120.jpg

Probably not the best thread for this topic, however....Thats a different forging technique. Path Tool or Intelligent Scissors (with background synthesis)...


nearly 2 mins later....

Oh, and yes, Gimp coloured the affected areas. Red for source, green for destination.

[idschmyd]

Nonho; not sure who it is, now you mention it. Nice yellow though.

Bri, yes, wrong thread. Thanks again. More questions occur but internet must be able to answer them...

[simonshack]

Do you remember "Genghis"?

Another early fan of September Clues...

Watch this historical video - from 8:28 onwards ! :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJy-VKvOWFU

I found the original in my Youtube favorites: At the time, it was posted by the "OzzybinOswald2" channel which, of course, got banned by Youtube... :rolleyes: