9/11 and SEPTEMBER CLUES

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Postby hoi.polloi on April 2nd, 2010, 2:59 pm

Video evidence is the only evidence they can't take away.



And unfortunately, the only "evidence" that it leaves behind is:

1. There was a video creator

2. Likely, there was a single video creator making all of the photos and video and modifying them to appear more different than they actually are, regardless of diversity of original creators

3. The management team is using a script to make all the videos coincide

4. Someone wrote that script

and

5. Those operating significantly "on script" tend to be lying bastards covering up an enormous government-approved banking crime against the American people and the people of this world who suffer the consequences (e.g.; wars, doctrine, dogma)

We want to know who can be held accountable for writing this script and pushing it through which channels. That is why September Clues is the most significant research into criminal war-crime activity on the planet.
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Postby simonshack on April 7th, 2010, 6:24 pm

hoi.polloi 4 Apr 2 2010, 01:59 PM wrote:
Video evidence is the only evidence they can't take away.


And unfortunately, the only "evidence" that it leaves behind is:

1. There was a video creator

2. Likely, there was a single video creator making all of the photos and video and modifying them to appear more different than they actually are, regardless of diversity of original creators

3. The management team is using a script to make all the videos coincide



The 'beauty' of all this is that they are formidably inept :

I feel the need to re-post their latest resounding fiasco here on the September Clues Q&A thread.
It's from the 'DIMITRI KHALEZOV' thread to be found here http://z6.invisionfree.com/Reality_Shac ... =166&st=30


SAURET versus KHALEZOV - WTC1 collapse imagery

In a nutshell, this is what it's about : A picturesque 'russian military expert' named DIMITRI KHALEZOV released (March 2010)on Youtube a 26-part video (no kidding) explaining to the world that nukes were used to bring down the towers. He loves to look at the fake videos to make his case, so he shows us once again all sorts of clips from the 9/11 fake-image database. I just love it when, each time he introduces a clip he says: "Look at this movie..." :lol:

"DIMITRI KHALEZOV nuke theory part11": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5DeeHCC ... re=related


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5DeeHCCROg


Now, in part 10 of Dimitri's Youtube exposé, he shows the infamous collapse-clip credited to movie-maker 'Etienne Sauret'.
This is when it gets, shall we say, amusing...

Please count the WTC beams on the 'original' Sauret clip (They should be 57):

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source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQhq2ihqzn4

Please count the WTC beams here on Dimitri's version of the same clip:
I can't see more than 39, no matter how hard I try! :blink: (*squinty eyes*) :blink:

Not only that - but the beams here are also askew!...
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They just keep messing around with that crappy software they used for the entire pool of
9/11 computer animations - and their poor supervisor must have developed severe glaucoma by now.

It is - definitively - case closed for this chapter of the research, folks:
NONE of those silly 9/11 collapse videos are any more real than Santa Claus.


The tower collapses were of course the LAST thing they would have wanted to show the world on TV. ANYONE still looking at the videos for 'scientific analyses' aimed at determining what knocked them down is a fool or/and a shill.

In reality, they obscured the WTC complex behind a thick smokescreen - it's the oldest trick in the miltary book. It took them about an hour to do this - that's why they had to fill in that morning's TV-time with the inane Pentagon and Shanksville diversions. No one was able to see the 2 collapses behind that smokescreen - much less capture them on film.
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Postby simonshack on April 16th, 2010, 8:43 pm

fbenario 4 Apr 16 2010, 06:58 PM wrote: Do you find the analysis of shadows helpful and worthy of repeating to others?




One image-comparison may suffice... :

NORTH FACE OF WTC IN SUNLIGHT________________________NORTH FACE OF WTC IN SHADE
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The lefthand picture is credited to GAMMA press (unknown author) and is from a videoclip shown on FOX,CNN and countless other TV channels around the world.

The righthand Picture is credited as of caption ("Sean Adair-REUTERS ")

And no : Shadows do not disappear depending on the angle you watch them from.
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Postby simonshack on April 17th, 2010, 12:33 am

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Postby Surcouf on April 17th, 2010, 9:11 am

fbenario Posted on Apr 16 2010, 07:58 PM
Simon, here's a video that MartinL just posted on Facebook. It analyses shadows to show that the planes, and thus the 9/11 videos, were faked. Do you find the analysis of shadows helpful and worthy of repeating to others?


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TV Fakery - *Enlighting The Shadows* 911 / WTC / RasgaSaias/Azimuth Angle/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjb8RLMoKS0





" ... 3D graphic applied on real footage .." at 1.05

"...compare with this video recorded by the same person in the same place moments later ..." at 7.02


Does Martin L now promoting Distraction ?
Some explanation/clarification is definitely needed from the 911 Nordic movement !!
Everything might not be faked ...
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Postby MartinL on April 17th, 2010, 10:59 am

Surcouf @ Apr 17 2010, 09:11 AM wrote:
fbenario Posted on Apr 16 2010, 07:58 PM
Simon, here's a video that MartinL just posted on Facebook. It analyses shadows to show that the planes, and thus the 9/11 videos, were faked. Do you find the analysis of shadows helpful and worthy of repeating to others?


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TV Fakery - *Enlighting The Shadows* 911 / WTC / RasgaSaias/Azimuth Angle/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjb8RLMoKS0





" ... 3D graphic applied on real footage .." at 1.05

"...compare with this video recorded by the same person in the same place moments later ..." at 7.02


Does Martin L now promoting Distraction ?
Some explanation/clarification is definitely needed from the 911 Nordic movement !!


Wow, yeah, I might have been a bit quick on posting that.

I found the shadow-analysis interesting and I have a lot of people on Facebook that see my daily postings. I should of course have put a warning on top of the video (like I often do) but I didn't. I posted it with the heading "Thoughts?" and Fred replied:

"Every single video of 9/11, including the 'eyewitness' videos, is entirely fake."

My response to the thread: (just posted)

I agree with Fred.

1. It's dedicated to the fabricated victims on 9/11.
2. The planes are of course fake.
3. The videos themselves are fake.... See more

So all in all it's a distraction, even though it gets the shadow-mess up right..

http://www.septclues.com/PICTURES%20sep ... IR%201.jpg

http://www.septclues.com/ANIMATED%20GIF ... ooGood.gif

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Simply put, I wanted other peoples input on the video and I was not focused enough to put warnings/etc on the video. I probably don't have to either, considering people on Facebook know my stance on VicSims, TV fakery, Total fakery.

If they don't I have a chance of explaining it to them if they leave a comment on a video such as this.

Ok?
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Thanks for putting up the comparison Simon. It would be good if most of what once was to be found on 911movement.org could be available here after a while... that would probably help a lot of people to understand the total fakery - just like it helped me when I started to look into it.

Feel free to ask for further clarification/explanation.... (by PM so we don't pollute the thread)
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Postby simonshack on April 17th, 2010, 2:29 pm

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NO - I DO NOT DOCTOR THE 9/11 IMAGERY


I have, once again, been accused of 'doctoring' the 9/11 imagery in order to deceive the world... :rolleyes:
http://www.oldelmtree.com/discussion/in ... 2#msg76862

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Check it out on the TV archives here:
http://www.archive.org/details/bbc200109112104-2146 (at 0:12sec)

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Check it out on the TV archives here:
http://www.archive.org/details/fox5200109112143-2225 (at 16min43sec)

Enough is enough. The age-old issue of the sourcing of the 9/11 images should now be put to rest. It is up for anyone who wishes to challenge my work on this preposterous basis to provide proof of any falsification of mine - and produce the sources to support it: Not the other way round. I believe this is a reasonable request of mine at this advanced stage of my research. It is unreasonable to expect me to provide - each and every time I post an image - its exact location in the archives or any other official source. It is a very time-consuming process, yet one which I will gladly undertake in the future (hopefully with some outside help) for the purposes of the inevitable courtroom hearings.

These gratuitous, hit-and-run claims of doctoring on my part are the silliest and most absurdly ironic form of attacks on my research; since my work consists precisely in exposing doctored imagery, they smell more of provocation than honest, legitimate questioning. I will therefore kindly ask any such 'challenger', once corrected, to show elegance by retracting and offering a note of apology, such as: "NO, Simon Shack does NOT doctor the 9/11 TV archive imagery nor any other related video material. I stand corrected."

Thanks.
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Postby simonshack on April 17th, 2010, 4:02 pm

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We TV fakery researchers are oft accused of having fanciful imaginations.
It is people who want this to be real imagery who have fanciful imaginations.
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Postby Realism911 on April 17th, 2010, 4:41 pm


I remember you used to have two different animated gifs, one for the divebomber, one for the level approach.. that was the most convincing to me are those anywhere?

Kentrailer,

All my gifs/pics and downloadable research material is here:
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Please diffuse and disseminate as much as possible ! :) (thanks for always quoting http://www.septemberclues.info !! )

ALQUAEDA vs DIVEBOMBER shots
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I could see how faked and setup the Gamma Press Mpeg looks way before I even heard of September clues even come out. After reading that forum I saw nothing that consisted as to coming close to proper research (except of course the Sep clues videos they were copying from here : loll:). no one can be taken seriously in this research by coming out saying they "think" someone doctored a tape. Or they "think" they know what happened... Actions speak louder than words so if something is to be challenged I say let "proof" be brought to the table.

The above post written by Simon quite a while ago now and shows a classic example of tireless effort That he has shown to people that have asked so many specific detailed questions regarding the videos over the past couple of years. And in my opinion the time for pointless questions is over. All of the September clues footage is real and unhampered with. Find out for yourself it is!
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Postby simonshack on April 17th, 2010, 5:23 pm

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This was shown LIVE on CBS:

THE "DIVEBOMBER" (as seen on Live TV)
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It was then cut to another "camera".

The 7 seconds-before-strike section from CBS seen in the post above was only shown later - but it is obviously meant to be the continuation of that shot from the same CBS "camera".

I will now say something I have refrained (for years) from saying for fear of sounding 'arrogant' : ANYONE who cannot see the problem here is either an individual with severe cognitive issues - or a government agent. Period.
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Postby fbenario on April 18th, 2010, 1:54 am

simonshack 4 Apr 17 2010, 12:23 PM wrote:

I will now say something I have refrained (for years) from saying for fear of sounding 'arrogant' : ANYONE who cannot see the problem here is either an individual with severe cognitive issues - or a government agent. Period.


They might also just be people who don't have any obvious cognitive problems in the rest of their life, but who are WAY too comfortable with American Exceptionalism, that whatever America does is by definition both right and good. This pretty much describes every single person I know in the entire world, other than about a dozen of you here on this forum.

Stupid sheeple. I hate and despise the comfort most Americans take in US military action "to keep us safe". What a vile, evil, veil over the truth, and what murderous bulls**t.
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Postby Realism911 on April 18th, 2010, 2:24 pm

I am resubmiting what "EXACTLY" Simon and I are comparing in the above conversation......

25 Degrees VS 0 Degrees

This “9.03 CBS LIVE SHOT”. Clearly shows a plane operating as Flight 175 heading towards the South Tower of the World Trade Center at 09:03 am.
“THIS” Shot is what we were shown live on CBS? THE "DIVEBOMBER" (as seen on CBS Live TV) 9.03am. It clearly shows “FLIGHT 175” as it emerges from “WAY HIGH" above the trade centre complex. Source -9/ 11 TV archives-- http://www.archive.org/details/cbs200109110831-0912 @ 31:39.


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Then we can then see the camera shot changes. But the remainder of the footage is played again, you can see the final 7 seconds again @ 40.50. ..If you continue to go through the CBS archives that day it appears a lot on their news updates....(If anyone is wanting too see the Full DiveBomb approach It was played after 4 pm later that day. Source 9/11 archives-- http://www.archive.org/details/cbs200109111609-1651 @ 27.55.)


This a comparison Betwen the "CBS LIVE SHOT" and What the FBI found on the Al-qaidia website.

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Video fakery here. :D
The above Dive Bomber VS Al- AL- Qaeda proves easily fabrication Quick math’s to prove it.
CBS Shot=== "flight 175" final approach WTC at an aprox 25 degree angle.
Al-Qaeda Shot==== "flight 175" final approach to WTC at aproxx 0 degree angle


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Postby simonshack on April 20th, 2010, 6:26 pm

Please note that the 2 above clips are synched correctly.
Both show the first puff of smoke on the East side of WTC2.

It is just a little harder to see on the small, blue-scale CBS shot, that's all.


I also wish to 'amend' my earlier assertion a little (that "ANYONE who cannot see this has severe cognitive issues...etc"). The wording was a bit harsh. I wish to replace it with the following thought. It is dedicated to those who, over the years, have asked me to provide scientific calculations to back up what I believe we can see on the 9/11 videos.

Is the world flat or round?
Are both the 7-second trajectories descending - or are both horizontal?
To me, it clearly looks like one is descending and the other horizontal.

I also believe the world is round, btw. This is the result of my own cognition of time and space matured during my lifetime.

Naysayers who live by scientific calculations are free to prove the contrary with their own methods. Since what we are dealing with here is a criminal investigation, we should keep in mind that, in a court of law, there are 12 jurors. To convince the majority of them in one way or the other is, ulltimately, what matters most.
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Postby D.Duck on April 20th, 2010, 7:14 pm

Simon,

I guess they thought they might as well tilt some buildings south of the towers close to the water in the Al CiaDa shot while they were at it, :P

D.Duck

(EDIT by Simon) : And the leaning building to the far left should have a grid of BRIGHT beams running from top to bottom! This is a badly rendered NY scenery indeed!
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Postby Realism911 on April 21st, 2010, 1:00 pm

"Clipped Wings"

has been re edited and place further on in the next couple of pages.
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