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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby nonhocapito on April 4th, 2012, 10:58 pm

flipflop wrote:I only joined because on another forum there is a topic about the victims on 9/11 and some guy is adamant that he knows 3 people that died that day. I've used the search function both here and over at let's roll and can't find a thing on any of them apart from one pic of a firefighter (on let's roll).


You certainly should share the names of these alleged victims who have someone who knew them, and a link to the post "on another forum" that mentions them... In such matters, we should not make a step without corroborating what we say with some link or source of some sort...

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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby Quaid on April 6th, 2012, 4:28 pm

hello, I'm from London, 31 years. I enjoy looking at this site. got nothing to say really, nothing to add, I'm just someone who likes to show this stuff to people and get the word out. I don't like; 'I know more about the conspiracy than you' idiots, and it seems there are plenty of them here, one of them told me to introduce myself here, so here I am.
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby nonhocapito on April 7th, 2012, 9:47 am

Quaid wrote:I don't like; 'I know more about the conspiracy than you' idiots, and it seems there are plenty of them here, one of them told me to introduce myself here, so here I am.

So an "idiot" told you what to do and you did it? How about we don't need anyone with your attitude around here? ciao ciao
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby fafinaf on April 7th, 2012, 2:47 pm

Hey everyone,

My name is Kevin and I live in Los Angeles, CA. I am 25 years old and I'm currently an EMT. I'm currently preparing to start Paramedic school very soon! I don't have much in the way of research experience but I gained interest in 9/11 about a year ago. I finally became comfortable with mainstream 9/11 truth theories and then I came across September Clues and was absolutely blown away! I feel like I was blind - and in a sense I was. I have to admit It took some time to really come to grips with proof of implementation of fake imagery, actors, betrayal of the media etc by those who are involved. Having come to terms with the undeniable proof and concrete evidence, I'm quite interested in learning more about this subject. I want to know more about past, present and future instances where this may have or can occur.

A little more about me-

I'm half Argentinian and Half Lebanese, pretty random - I know! I don't really use Facebook/other social websites and I don't have my own website at the moment. As far as hobbies of mine, they include playing basketball, spending time with family and friends and reading/educating myself. I'm very goal-oriented and enjoy meeting new people. I'm excited to have finally signed up for these forums. I don't know why I haven't.. I always just lurked around but decided that I have been wanting to participate but always procrastinated. I look forward to meeting and chatting with fellow curious minds and am always open to learning something new!!

-Kevin
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby Ramondo_Valenzuela on April 9th, 2012, 12:13 am

I’m going to be right up front about how I feel if that’s OK with you, and if you don’t like it ban me NOW rather than waste my time and yours. And believe me you won’t hurt my feelings one bit. I know the game and I know it well. I have been involved in this for a long time - even before 9/11 ever came along.

So please allow me to “falsely” introduce myself, and for the lack of a better word, I am an internet impersonator. I sometimes call myself Raimondi Valenzuela or some such variation. This in NOT my real name - Its a fake name, with a hidden ISP address and I will never reveal any information about who or where I am other than to say that my objectives are similar to yours except to say that we have vastly different ways of going about things particularly in the area of "freedom of expression” in any form."

I have been watching things here for awhile now and finally decided to register although I'm not sure if I'll be making any further posts or not - depends. This is nothing personal because it isn't just your site that I speak of here. The reason I haven’t joined up is that I don’t care all that much for the way this place is run. Its a bit too restrictive when it comes to individual ideas and opinions, and there’s too many 'bosses' trying to control those ideas by attempting to make them fit the leaders narrative - sometimes coercively through either intimidation, or by an outright humiliation of a particular OP. I've seen it so please don't say it isn't so, because it is. Nothing new there actually, but I will say that I thoroughly despise the manner in which almost ALL of the so-called ‘truth forums’ that I have either visited or have been a member of conduct themselves when to comes to ‘free E-speech’ – so this forum really is no exception. That said, at the first hint of an abridgement of my personal rights as a free thinking person - from no matter whom – I’m outta here.

Regarding issues of security and personal privacy: I filter all internet connections through two proxies and do not use a PC. I do not operate through standard browsers such as I.E. but use Linux or something other than Microsoft, which is a CIA/NSA collaboration.

I think there's an inherent danger to "Introductory" threads such as this one is. Data scavengers are all over the place hired out of NSA, or whatever, so making public things such as your address, either ISP or city and country of origin is not a good idea IMHO. People also tend to give away far too much information about themselves when responding to such requests as can be attested to in this very thread.

In closing - call me anything you want to - paranoid, suspicious, shill, lurker, spy, Jesuit, blah, blah, blah - I've heard it all before and I'm sure I'll hear it all again.

PS - I just saw this and I must say its an encouraging sign -
Private Internet Browsing viewtopic.php?f=29&t=144#p1485191
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby HonestlyNow on April 9th, 2012, 1:49 am

R.V. wrote:That said, at the first hint of an abridgement of my personal rights as a free thinking person - from no matter whom – I’m outta here.

If you are in possession of a strong sense of self, nobody anywhere can stop you from thinking freely. That said --

I have a question for you if you don't mind.

Why it is that a forum website that is privately owned needs to let everyone "have their say" without regard to the the owner's "rules of the house". It's analogous to visiting someone's home, and just "doing whatever the f. I feel like" the way you would in your own home.

I'd really like to know your thoughts on this.

If one wants (truly) free speech, one needs to get their own website and attract their own audience. No one owes someone else time and space on their dime. Ever. (. . .darn that silly pet peeve of mine.)
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby fbenario on April 9th, 2012, 2:06 am

Ramondo_Valenzuela wrote:That said, at the first hint of an abridgement of my personal rights as a free thinking person - from no matter whom – I’m outta here.

You're welcome here to think as freely as you like. As a member, though, you are required to interact courteously with all other members in what you post, and cannot be defensive, emotional, insulting, manipulative, or repetitious, since all those are immature and unhelpful to the forum's goals.
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby Ramondo_Valenzuela on April 9th, 2012, 1:26 pm

fbenario wrote:You're welcome here to think as freely as you like. As a member, though, you are required to interact courteously with all other members in what you post, and cannot be defensive, emotional, insulting, manipulative, or repetitious, since all those are immature and unhelpful to the forum's goals.

The quote above is a perfect example of what I was warning against in my introductory letter. And I must say that it didn't take long for the knee jerk response to go immediately into high gear did it? So here we have the first indicator of the opening salvo; the 'signs of oppression' that I pointed to are already showing. It was to this very sort of thing that my earlier remarks were addressed in my "quoted paragraph." HERE:
Ramondo_Valenzuela wrote:I have been watching things here for awhile now and finally decided to register although I'm not sure if I'll be making any further posts or not - depends. This is nothing personal because it isn't just your site that I speak of here. The reason I haven’t joined up is that I don’t care all that much for the way this place is run. Its a bit too restrictive when it comes to individual ideas and opinions, and there’s too many 'bosses' trying to control those ideas by attempting to make them fit the leaders narrative - sometimes coercively through either intimidation, or by an outright humiliation of a particular OP. I've seen it so please don't say it isn't so, because it is. Nothing new there actually, but I will say that I thoroughly despise the manner in which almost ALL of the so-called ‘truth forums’ that I have either visited or have been a member of conduct themselves when to comes to ‘free E-speech’ – so this forum really is no exception. That said, at the first hint of an abridgement of my personal rights as a free thinking person - from no matter whom – I’m outta here.


I think they can't help themselves - these self assigned arbiters of what's proper and what's not. All of the restrictions excepting one (i.e., insulting) that are noted in the OP's quote (above) are rather subjective in nature. So who shall it be that evaluates such indiscretions and then is to make the final condemnation that judges a particular OP's comments to be deemed unfit? Is it you benario? If so who appointed you to be the Forum taskmaster? Did Simon designate you as the final authority?
Maybe Simon Shack should answer that question.
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby simonshack on April 9th, 2012, 2:41 pm

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Ramondo,

Let me see... longtime Cluesforum member Fbenario writes:
"As a member, though, you are required to interact courteously with all other members in what you post, and cannot be defensive, emotional, insulting, manipulative, or repetitious, since all those are immature and unhelpful to the forum's goals."


I must say I approve every single word of the above sentence. It certainly cannot be described as a "knee-jerk response" - by any stretch of imagination. If anything, it is your introduction that sounded a bit 'knee-jerky' and antagonistic - as you went about listing what you don't like about this forum, as soon as you stepped in - and without even letting us know why you are here/or what your interests are. Is that asking too much?

Let me tell you what I'd do - in real life - if some stranger walked into my house and started listing the things he/she didn't like. I would either:
- Tell my dog to pee on this person's leg - and bark him/her straight out of the gate. (My dog NEVER bites, btw.)
- If my dog were busy/or peacefully asleep, I'd personally put on my trekking shoes and boot this person straight out of the gate.

As a matter of fact, I can tell you about one instance something of the sort happened, a few years ago. I was having a music party in my garden - and we were all dancing happily away. Suddenly, I found myself face-to-face with two policemen. They told me the music was too loud - and that a neighbor had complained. I immediately asked them: "May I ask how you gentlemen got into my garden? Did you ring on the bell?" They said "Well, uh...no - we found the gate open." Next, I literally put my arms around them and gently led them back to the gate - while informing them that they had committed a mistake and could be liable for invasion of privacy. They nodded, offered due excuses, and drove away. The party continued - into the early morning hours. ;)
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby nonhocapito on April 9th, 2012, 3:39 pm

Funny how Ramondo's email said "Raymondo" instead. Anyway, this user have been banned since he was really not a new user, but an old one instead. :P
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby Rus-51 on April 9th, 2012, 4:03 pm

Soy Rey
Edad: Creó que soy joven
Location: Un pequño Castillo
Tengo: 100 caballeros armados, también tengo una reina y un jardín grande.
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby HonestlyNow on April 9th, 2012, 4:15 pm

Rus-51 wrote:Soy Rey
Edad: Creó que soy joven
Location: Un pequño Castillo
Tengo: 100 caballeros armados, también tengo una reina y un jardín grande.

Google translation:
I'm King
Age: I think I'm young
Location: A small tarball Castle
I have: 100 armed men, also I have a queen and a large garden.
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby D'Artagnon on April 9th, 2012, 4:33 pm

Hello - I live in Europe but travel a lot. I am moving to Malta soon.
As soon as the 30K American troops move out that is.
I'm looking for the solution of what took place in NYC ten years ago - I hope I came to the right place. Simon and HP are well known so I figured I would joind them for awhile :)
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby nonhocapito on April 9th, 2012, 6:51 pm

D'Artagnon wrote:Hello - I live in Europe but travel a lot. I am moving to Malta soon.
As soon as the 30K American troops move out that is.
I'm looking for the solution of what took place in NYC ten years ago - I hope I came to the right place. Simon and HP are well known so I figured I would joind them for awhile :)


Sorry D'Artagnon, we cannot allow you to connect from a proxy server considering the many impersonators that try to join this board under multiple identities.
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Re: REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself

Postby zander on April 12th, 2012, 8:55 am

South American/ European descent with U.S. status. Carpenter by trade with no notable background in conspiracy research. I have a youtube account that I’ve pretty much abandoned except to access certain restricted content. Facebook only for personal stuff. No other social networking by me. I became intrigued with this side of the research when a friend sent me a link to SC and various supplemental material. I didn’t know what to make of it at first since it was such a bizarre theory and so overtly rejected by the majority of ‘truthers’, soo... I couldn’t help think it was probably worth looking into. The video series was so well done, and for the most part simple enough for anyone without a background in video, but at the least - an open mind, to grasp. I do not subscribe to the motto ‘everything is a lie and fake until proven real’, since it makes my brain hurt a little too much and personally doesn’t help me expand in any way that suits me, and besides that extreme seems to be more beneficial to the culprits than to the average, free thinker with tendencies towards scrutinizing information. At least most of what I’ve read on this forum, and elsewhere willing to spotlight the tools of fakery evidently perpetrated on the unconscious masses, is presented with reason and logic and seemingly attempts to inspire world citizens to continuously question things without the detrimental effect of having to override their valueable intuition. I don't think much can be added to the research at this point, so I could only hope to be able to contribute at least a scrap. For now all I have to offer is a thanks.
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